Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by sintzu » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:28 pm

Tennessaiyan wrote:I'm really curious about what kind of role Beerus will play in this movie. Whis has apparently been training Goku and Vegeta while Beerus slept, so how will Beerus contribute to the story, exactly? My only conclusion is that he fights Freeza, even though King Cold told Freeza never to mess with the god of destruction. I could just see Freeza getting cocky like that and fighting Beerus anyway.
Hopefully but based on the poster I doubt they'll have anything to do with Freeza.
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Post by Beerus-sama » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:29 pm

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UpFromTheSkies wrote:If Freeza finds them before Goku and Vegeta return from their training with Whis, it won't be good.
Toriyama probably won't kill them off but with him having Freeza kill his own men I'm not going to rule it out.
There's still chance for them to revive with the dragon balls since it will be their first death.

But for the looks of the cast page, it seems like they won't show up :(
Also, looking at the cast/staff page, where it says Nozawa Masako she's just addressed for Goku and Gohan's roles, so maybe thats a confirmation sign :(
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Post by Careless Saiyajin » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:29 pm

Tennessaiyan wrote:I'm really curious about what kind of role Beerus will play in this movie. Whis has apparently been training Goku and Vegeta while Beerus slept, so how will Beerus contribute to the story, exactly? My only conclusion is that he fights Freeza, even though King Cold told Freeza never to mess with the god of destruction. I could just see Freeza getting cocky like that and fighting Beerus anyway.
That would be well within the arrogance and vein of Frieza's character.

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Post by Tunjevina » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:31 pm

Tennessaiyan wrote:I'm really curious about what kind of role Beerus will play in this movie. Whis has apparently been training Goku and Vegeta while Beerus slept, so how will Beerus contribute to the story, exactly? My only conclusion is that he fights Freeza, even though King Cold told Freeza never to mess with the god of destruction. I could just see Freeza getting cocky like that and fighting Beerus anyway.
It's more likely that Beerus will attack Freeza, he'll be pissed cause Goku & Vegeta's training disrupt his sleep, so when he learns that Freeza is on Earth and could destroy his Pudding-Planet, he will be super pissed.

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Post by Rozay » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:35 pm

I actually want to see Beerus vs. Freeza more than Freeza beating on Goku & Vegeta again.

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Post by sintzu » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:37 pm

Beerus-sama wrote: But for the looks of the cast page, it seems like they won't show up.
Where would they be ? It's hard not to notice an intergalactic war lord attacking the planet with over a 1000 men.
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Post by Tunjevina » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:38 pm

Beerus-sama wrote:
sintzu wrote:
UpFromTheSkies wrote:If Freeza finds them before Goku and Vegeta return from their training with Whis, it won't be good.
Toriyama probably won't kill them off but with him having Freeza kill his own men I'm not going to rule it out.
There's still chance for them to revive with the dragon balls since it will be their first death.
Actually they already died when Buu destroyed the Earth, Porunga revived them.

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Post by HECTOR4 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:40 pm

kei17 wrote:
KAiWAi wrote:A question for the pros:

I had a hard time to determine if this illustration from the V-Jump was drawn by Toriyama or Toyble ?! I'm still not sure.

http://www.gamekyo.com/images_1/fe42972 ... 192217.jpg
I'm 100% sure it's Toyble's art. Goku's lean upper arm and poorly drawn hands correspond to his style. Also Toriyama is far better at drawing creases of clothes.
I also saw those details...But still I don't find sufficient evidence to be sure. I find it very strange that in this illustration Toyotaro imitating the style of Toriyama and within the comic use his own style.
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Post by Doctor. » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:42 pm

I think it's safe to say that nobody is gonna die, permanently at least, unless the ending of the manga gets retconned again.

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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:45 pm

Bullza wrote:Maybe Whis is training them for Beeru's sake because he really wanted a rival.
I think the Oracle Fish tells Whis that if Beerus fights Freeza he will die, which is why he's training Goku and Vegeta to fight him instead... I also think Beerus joins the fight anyway when Goku and Vegeta start to lose and uses a suicide destruction attack, fulfilling the Oracles prophecy

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Post by Tennessaiyan » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:47 pm

sintzu wrote:
Beerus-sama wrote: But for the looks of the cast page, it seems like they won't show up.
Where would they be ? It's hard not to notice an intergalactic war lord attacking the planet with over a 1000 men.
If Goten and Trunks aren't in the movie, I will be very disappointed. Especially for Trunks, though. For him not to be in the movie, the character who actually KILLED Frieza... what a waste that would be. I still can't wrap my head around that idea though, especially since Frieza clearly states that he won't be satisfied until he kills both of the Saiyans who put him to shame.
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Post by Beerus-sama » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:48 pm

Tunjevina wrote:
Beerus-sama wrote: There's still chance for them to revive with the dragon balls since it will be their first death.
Actually they already died when Buu destroyed the Earth, Porunga revived them.
Forgot about it! :o
then maybe its better that they wont show up?
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Beerus-sama wrote: But for the looks of the cast page, it seems like they won't show up.
Where would they be ? It's hard not to notice an intergalactic war lord attacking the planet with over a 1000 men.
I don't know, but I'm just saying for the looks of the main page...
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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:50 pm

Beerus-sama wrote:
sintzu wrote:
UpFromTheSkies wrote:If Freeza finds them before Goku and Vegeta return from their training with Whis, it won't be good.
Toriyama probably won't kill them off but with him having Freeza kill his own men I'm not going to rule it out.
There's still chance for them to revive with the dragon balls since it will be their first death.

But for the looks of the cast page, it seems like they won't show up :(
Maybe they're killed off before getting a chance to speak? Like I said, if Freeza finds them and they've aged enough to look like future Trunks and Goku, he's going to destroy them.

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Post by sintzu » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:52 pm

UpFromTheSkies wrote: I think the Oracle Fish tells Whis that if Beerus fights Freeza he will die, which is why he's training Goku and Vegeta to fight him instead... I also think Beerus joins the fight anyway when Goku and Vegeta start to lose and uses a suicide destruction attack, fulfilling the Oracles prophecy
Killing him off would be the biggest mistake Toriyama could make.
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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:52 pm

Beerus-sama wrote:
Tunjevina wrote:
Beerus-sama wrote: There's still chance for them to revive with the dragon balls since it will be their first death.
Actually they already died when Buu destroyed the Earth, Porunga revived them.
Forgot about it! :o
then maybe its better that they wont show up?
They could still be revived by Shenlong, right? If not, maybe Toriyama forgets about that rule

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Post by Tennessaiyan » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:54 pm

UpFromTheSkies wrote:
Bullza wrote:Maybe Whis is training them for Beeru's sake because he really wanted a rival.
I think the Oracle Fish tells Whis that if Beerus fights Freeza he will die, which is why he's training Goku and Vegeta to fight him instead... I also think Beerus joins the fight anyway when Goku and Vegeta start to lose and uses a suicide destruction attack, fulfilling the Oracles prophecy
Really? Since before even Frieza was announced, I've been saying that Beerus will die. (If that ends up being true, I'm totally not going to let my friends who've been saying he WON'T die live that down... haha :P) I can totally see that prophecy being fulfilled.

I wonder, if Beerus is killed by Frieza, could Frieza be the new god of destruction?
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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:55 pm

sintzu wrote:
UpFromTheSkies wrote: I think the Oracle Fish tells Whis that if Beerus fights Freeza he will die, which is why he's training Goku and Vegeta to fight him instead... I also think Beerus joins the fight anyway when Goku and Vegeta start to lose and uses a suicide destruction attack, fulfilling the Oracles prophecy
Killing him off would be the biggest mistake Toriyama could make.
Maybe if he dies a halo just appears on his head, like when Old Kai gave Goku his life.

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Post by Beerus-sama » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:56 pm

UpFromTheSkies wrote: They could still be revived by Shenlong, right? If not, maybe Toriyama forgets about that rule
Wasn't that Porunga the one that can revive no matter how many times they die?
UpFromTheSkies wrote: Maybe they're killed off before getting a chance to speak? Like I said, if Freeza finds them and they've aged enough to look like future Trunks and Goku, he's going to destroy them.
maybe they're killed off screen?
Can the Dragon balls revive a person for a second time now?
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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:59 pm

Tennessaiyan wrote:
UpFromTheSkies wrote:
Bullza wrote:Maybe Whis is training them for Beeru's sake because he really wanted a rival.
I think the Oracle Fish tells Whis that if Beerus fights Freeza he will die, which is why he's training Goku and Vegeta to fight him instead... I also think Beerus joins the fight anyway when Goku and Vegeta start to lose and uses a suicide destruction attack, fulfilling the Oracles prophecy
Really? Since before even Freeza was announced, I've been saying that Beerus will die. (If that ends up being true, I'm totally not going to let my friends who've been saying he WON'T die live that down... haha :P) I can totally see that prophecy being fulfilled.

I wonder, if Beerus is killed by Freeza, could Freeza be the new god of destruction?
I've been saying the same thing too, and if it does happen, maybe Freeza is purified and reincarnated as the next God of Destruction. I'm sure if Beerus is the one to kill off Freeza with a suicide destruction attack, Goku and Vegeta are going to want the chance to fight him again, and that would give them the opportunity.

This is of course all wild speculation, but it would explain some details, like Goku and Vegeta being trained and fighting Freeza instead of Beerus.

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Post by sintzu » Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:02 pm

Tennessaiyan wrote: I wonder, if Beerus is killed by Freeza, could Freeza be the new god of destruction?
Not if Vegeta has anything to say about it and believe me he'll have plenty to say and do.
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