Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:50 am

miguelnuva1 wrote:Does anyone else appreciate the irony that Freeza is now the same color as a SSJ now?
I do. It's so beautifully ironic.

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Post by kei17 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:50 am

I understand some of these criticisms, but I never understand the "someone else can come up with something better" kind of complaints people make. We do have been seeing several takes by other people like godawful Episode of Bardock or some boring AF shit in the fan-creation scene, and none of them can be considered better than BoG. I'm still having strong faith in Toriyama's creativity.
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Post by Bullza » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:50 am

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Bullza wrote:Animation flaw? Freeza doesn't have the purple shoulder pads in any other images.

See? The top shot I think is the CGI Freeza and it looks like they goofed by including the shoulder pads.
Pretty sure that's his forearm and that orb is the jewel near the elbow.
Looks like his shoulder to me, one has the purple orb there and none of the other shots do.

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:51 am

miguelnuva1 wrote:Does anyone else appreciate the irony that Freeza is now the same color as a SSJ now?
I love that, too. It also keeps in line with the more simplistic, small notion that Freeza's fourth form and Super Saiyan God were going with.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:53 am

kei17 wrote:I understand some of these criticisms, but I never understand the "Why does everybody praise everything just because it's Toriyama's idea? Someone else can come up with something better" kind of complaints people make. We do have been seeing several takes by other people like godawful Episode of Bardock or some boring AF shit in the fan-creation scene, and none of them can be considered better than BoG. I'm still having strong faith in Toriyama's creativity.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:54 am

Thinking further on the Jaco thing, I wonder if it'll be broached at all that Goku is the 'evil alien' he was originally meant to come and stop? Surely we'll at least see him and Goku interact, since he's coming back to Earth to help fight against Freeza's men as well.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:56 am

kei17 wrote:I understand some of these criticisms, but I never understand the "Why does everybody praise everything just because it's Toriyama's idea? Someone else can come up with something better" kind of complaints people make. We do have been seeing several takes by other people like godawful Episode of Bardock or some boring AF shit in the fan-creation scene, and none of them can be considered better than BoG. I'm still having strong faith in Toriyama's creativity.
I enjoy most of that better than BoG(which I hated as a fan who doesn't care without his brain.). I like EoB and YSGAFR. I like lots of the fan manga better. In short

BoG: :thumbdown:

The things you listed (some of them. AF sucks): :thumbup:

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Post by MagicBox » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:57 am

The Amazon Listing for the upcoming Momoiro Clover Z single has been updated with full credits for the movie's song.

『Z』の誓い
Lyrics: Yukinojō Mori
Composition: NARASAKI
Arrangement: NARASAKI & Yuyoyuppe

The main site translates the title as "Vow Of Z." You could also use "oath" as a translation of "chikai." So really, "(The) Z Oath." "(The) Z Vow." "(The) Vow Of Z" "(The) Oath Of Z." The choice is yours. I like "The Z Oath," myself.

Yukinojō Mori wrote the lyrics to "CHA-LA HEAD-CHA-LA," so that's pretty cool. Hopefully the lyrics will feel like Dragon Ball. Maybe we'll get to hear an idol group sing about training a dinosaur to balance atop a ball?
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Post by kidhero1000 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:57 am

BlazingFiddlesticks wrote:
kidhero1000 wrote:Doesn't Shenron Grant two wishes now? So what happened to the second wish again?
Oh wow, good point. The manga makes it look like Tagoma and Sorbet make themselves scarce ASAP. Maybe they did not know? Its not as if anyone Freeza-related had been to Earth for over a decade by that point.
Nevermind, he was upgraded by Dende to grant at least three and wishes can be saved up, after which Shenron can be summoned again to grant the remaining wishes. I believe they only asked one wish in B.O.G.. If Tagoma and Sorbet didn't bother with any other wishes other than just bring back Freeza, then Pilaf and his crew should rightfully be ruling the world by now.
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Post by Gabool The Wild » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:01 am

People seem to keep hating on the purple limbs, but I think it's a nice touch. After all, Coola and King Cold had more of a purple tone. As far as the gold goes, the irony is too great to ignore. I love it.

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Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:02 am

Gabool The Wild wrote:People seem to keep hating on the purple limbs, but I think it's a nice touch. After all, Coola and King Cold had more of a purple tone. As far as the gold goes, the irony is too great to ignore. I love it.
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Post by MagicBox » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:07 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Revival of F may get an official Movie Guide like you as you just linked to for Battle of Gods, but just because it has art within it, that doesn't really make in an "artbook."
Tyro wrote:Not sure I'd call that an artbook, but all the same I didn't know that it contained all of Toriyama's sketches he did for the movie.
I honestly didn't think anything of it when I called it an "artbook." I didn't expect anyone to really mind. Never intended to bother anyone. But no worries, I'm well aware the book has more than artwork. I own it, after all. :)
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Gyt Kaliba wrote:Thinking further on the Jaco thing, I wonder if it'll be broached at all that Goku is the 'evil alien' he was originally meant to come and stop?
Ooooh, that would be cool. Man, this opens up so many possibilities!
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:10 am

Bullza wrote:Looks like his shoulder to me, one has the purple orb there and none of the other shots do.
Looks pretty clearly like his elbow area to me. His hand slips into the ridge on the bottom of the forearm guard, and then it heads back to the elbow. You can't see his shoulder from that angle. I find it hard to believe thatjust that shot of the cgi section would have the error either, since they would be using a 3D model and there would be no reason for it to change between frames.
Gyt Kaliba wrote:Thinking further on the Jaco thing, I wonder if it'll be broached at all that Goku is the 'evil alien' he was originally meant to come and stop?
God I hope so. I also hope he, all these years later, somehow takes credit for it being totally on purpose, while hoping no one remembers he actually failed that mission.
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Post by fps_anth » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:12 am

Trunks and Freeza from the new movie in 2015:

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Dragon Ball Z TV show from 1991:

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Post by FutureGohanSSJ2 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:12 am

dbzfan7 wrote:
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noham-el wrote:Comparaison between two eras, 1990 vs 2015 :
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I may be in the minority, but I like the new animation in comparison to the old animation.
Opening with Trunks was epic and awesome. I'm so glad they didn't ignore that Trunks killed Freeza. Last movie they said Goku defeated Freeza with no mention of Trunks.

Also I'm with ya too, I like the new animation here better. Not in all cases though. Sometimes the new animation is ugly.

Well, Goku /did/ defeat Freeza. Please take note of the word usage: Defeat. Not kill, merely defeat. Also, it spread quickly that it was indeed Goku who defeated Freeza. Nobody knew about Trunks except Goku and the gang, and Freeza himself (along with his hencman). And they died. Nobody else knew Future Trunks was a thing. So...yeah, Beerus was not wrong in saying that Goku defeated Freeza. Because he did. He left him for dead out in the open vacuum of space.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:14 am

MagicBox wrote:
Gyt Kaliba wrote:Thinking further on the Jaco thing, I wonder if it'll be broached at all that Goku is the 'evil alien' he was originally meant to come and stop?
Ooooh, that would be cool. Man, this opens up so many possibilities!
I know, right? I can't believe how psyched I am to see Jaco included, but I really, really am. :mrgreen:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:God I hope so. I also hope he, all these years later, somehow takes credit for it being totally on purpose, while hoping no one remembers he actually failed that mission.
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Post by Gabool The Wild » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:16 am

BlazingFiddlesticks wrote:
Gabool The Wild wrote:People seem to keep hating on the purple limbs, but I think it's a nice touch. After all, Coola and King Cold had more of a purple tone. As far as the gold goes, the irony is too great to ignore. I love it.
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So little does anyone ever pick up on that reference, haha! It's a shame Jacques dies a few years ago.
Oh, and one other thing I feel about Freeza's transformation is that it pretty much could have been anything and people would have complained anyway. Folks really do give Toriyama a hard time about things these days. After he spent so long being detached from the series, it's nice to see him come in and work so happily on it.

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Post by fps_anth » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:18 am

Keep in mind that some of the comparisons above are with episode 120, which is possibly the best looking episode of DBZ:

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and some are with 121, which is hilariously the WORST looking episode of DBZ:

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I'd take episode 120 style animation over any other style, including the new CG style, any day of the week.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:19 am

FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:Well, Goku /did/ defeat Freeza. Please take note of the word usage: Defeat. Not kill, merely defeat. Also, it spread quickly that it was indeed Goku who defeated Freeza. Nobody knew about Trunks except Goku and the gang, and Freeza himself (along with his hencman). And they died. Nobody else knew Future Trunks was a thing. So...yeah, Beerus was not wrong in saying that Goku defeated Freeza. Because he did. He left him for dead out in the open vacuum of space.
Well seeing as how Whis' could see into the past, I'm sure he could also know how Freeza actually was defeated. Doesn't matter much though since the new movie acknowledges Trunks thankfully. Freeza wants both Goku and Trunks, not just Goku. I'm happy about that.
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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:21 am

Regarding Vegeta, he ain't going to betray Gokû. He's friends with him now. We know that because of how things happened at the end of Dragon Ball manga. Vegeta still talks with Gokû 10 years after the defeat of Majin Boo.
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