Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Vijay]

God, Freeza looks awful with those gold design. U call that a character design?

BOG was Pokemon villain, now this?

Miss those golden days for DBZ Films with guys like Cooler, Broly, Janmba, Hirudegarn....

So you miss the days of underdeveloped villains, then? And how does Beerus look like a pokemon? Janemba looks more like a Pokemon than Beerus if anything, hell he even went through and evolution!

Really? Since when DBZ had critically-acclaimed "developed" villains as in most cliche galore "Nakama" BS shows?
Dbz isn't HXH(2011) with villains/anti-hero characters as Chrollo, Hisoka & Meruem that rely on battle of wits.
Dbz gives the visceral excitement of watching Earth-shaterring attacks, epic Face-offs & legendary battles with universal-scale PL's.
A kid would know Janemba & his evolution was based on Fat Buu-evil side split-Super Buu concept. Whats "Pokemonish" here?
Beers was an egyptian cat (Mewtwo, Meowth) with atrocious characterization & downright embarassing screen-presence. So much for a God...
Now, Frieza is even greater sin commited by TOEI. He was considered trash as early as pre-Android Arc & givin rubbish excuses to "magically" reach God-level. Pfft..

@sintzu

BOG had toilet-tissue worthy plot-line. Now with Fukatsu no F's glaring, crystal-clear "plotless" impression coming frm its trailer, the so-called "days" look like classic by comparison.

Broly M10 & 11 aside, most DBZ films had decent one-line plot with balanced drama, humor & action. All these 3 aspects are replaced with infamous "butterfly fight", juvenile comedy that falls-flat & downright hilarious WTF moments during key-scenes in BOG.

Fukatsu no F looks like an even nightmarish massacre TOEI plans to unleash upon us, loyal fans of a 20 year old anime.

[Doctor.]

You're wrong. The main series' villains, especially Freeza, have a good degree of depth to their personality and characterization, something the movie villains do not.

[TheAldella]

You're wrong. The main series' villains, especially Freeza, have a good degree of depth to their personality and characterization, something the movie villains do not.

Sure, Cell and Buu all have memorable traits, but the Toei villians do as well. They can easily be boiled down to one specific personality archetype. The only difference being that Cell and Buu change these personalities along with transformation, giving the sense of a deeper change than the movie villians. Do we call that character development? I can't tell.

[Bullza]

IGN has posted on an article about the movie, basically just showing the new trailer but I don't think they ever bothered doing that with Battle of Gods until it was announced for US.

So again it does seem as though this movie is getting a lot more attention and awareness from people compared to what Battle of Gods did at the same point, which is a good thing for it. Now the trailer has 1.75 million views.

[shinmaru]

Kanzenshuu translated the article and this is what they had to say.

In addition to this lofty goal, the interview reveals that Revival of “F” will see an “ultra-expansion in showings” with the film set to premiere on “640-650 screens” across Japan. In comparison, Battle of Gods premiered on 312 screens in Japan (as reported by Cinema Today).

That's really surprising and something that I haven't really noticed to ever happen with any anime film before.

The Studio Ghibli films directed by Mizakai, some of the biggest anime films ever had a screen count in the 450-ish range while the Doraemon, Pokémon, Detective Conan and One Piece movies which are amongst the most popular anime movies based on a series only get in the 350-ish range like Battle of Gods did.

As I sorta said before a screen count of 650 or so is usually what you'd get for the likes of Monsters Inc, Frozen or Despicable Me 2.

I guess they're really pushing for this one to do well.

There's gotta be some crazy plot twists in this film to give them this sort of confidence! (⊙_⊙)

Yeah, i think this Movie is going to surprise us all.

[Doctor.]

You're wrong. The main series' villains, especially Freeza, have a good degree of depth to their personality and characterization, something the movie villains do not.

Sure, Cell and Buu all have memorable traits, but the Toei villians do as well. They can easily be boiled down to one specific personality archetype. The only difference being that Cell and Buu change these personalities along with transformation, giving the sense of a deeper change than the movie villians. Do we call that character development? I can't tell.

No, but it does make them less bland and more interesting.

[fadeddreams5]

Broly, Hirudegarn, Janemba, and Cooler are the only memorable movie villains prior to BoG. Three of those barely, if at all, speak. lol.

[Doctor.]

Broly, Hirudegarn, Janemba, and Cooler are the only memorable movie villains prior to BoG. Three of those barely, if at all, speak. lol.

They're memorable because they're bad. Besides Cooler, who isn't bad, but just boring.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Has anyone mentioned that what we know of the plot so far seems sort of like an inversion of the original Freeza saga?

Goku was losing to Freeza, but then he transformed and got a new golden form and won.

In this movie, Freeza is losing to Goku but then he transforms and gets a new golden form and wins.

[Doctor.]

Has anyone mentioned that what we know of the plot so far seems sort of like an inversion of the original Freeza saga?

Goku was losing to Freeza, but then he transformed and got a new golden form and won.

In this movie, Freeza is losing to Goku but then he transforms and gets a new golden form and wins.

Spoiler:

It seems like it's establishing a parallel to the Freeza arc.

[Kakarot9001]

Just 44 days left until the movie’s premiere!
Today we’ve got a comment from the voice of Kuririn, Mayumi Tanaka![/b]

Tanaka: Goku’s fighting scenes in the film were at such a mad pace that Nozawa had to practically tear through the script (laughs). It was a real highlight.

I hope the kids enjoy the fun battles, so as far as Kuririn goes, there’s always how he’s the strongest Earthling. In the movie Kuririn gets asked who he is, and it felt good to shoot back with “I’m an Earthling”. Since on Earth Kuririn is strongest. Not Satan, you know (laughs)

Krillin the strongest earthling, what a joke lol

[fadeddreams5]

Broly, Hirudegarn, Janemba, and Cooler are the only memorable movie villains prior to BoG. Three of those barely, if at all, speak. lol.

They're memorable because they're bad. Besides Cooler, who isn't bad, but just boring.

Janemba is awesome.

Broly... could've been awesome with a proper backstory and better personality on his base form. Still the scariest villain in the series, and that makes him memorable.

Hirudegarn... fine. He's just a mindless beast and his 2nd form is what I'd imagine Cell to look like after staring at a full moon. He was in a good movie though!

[Doctor.]

Broly, Hirudegarn, Janemba, and Cooler are the only memorable movie villains prior to BoG. Three of those barely, if at all, speak. lol.

They're memorable because they're bad. Besides Cooler, who isn't bad, but just boring.

Janemba is awesome.

Broly... could've been awesome with a proper backstory and better personality on his base form. Still the scariest villain in the series, and that makes him memorable.

Hirudegarn... fine. He's just a mindless beast and his 2nd form is what I'd imagine Cell to look like after staring at a full moon. He was in a good movie though!

Janemba is a fun character, but not a very good one.

Krillin the strongest earthling, what a joke lol

But he is.

[fadeddreams5]

Janemba is a fun character, but not a very good one.

I only care about the baby form, tbh.

Most people usually refer to Super Janemba.

[Tennessaiyan]

Has anyone mentioned that what we know of the plot so far seems sort of like an inversion of the original Freeza saga?

Goku was losing to Freeza, but then he transformed and got a new golden form and won.

In this movie, Freeza is losing to Goku but then he transforms and gets a new golden form and wins.

It seems like it's establishing a parallel to the Freeza arc.

Yet another reason I don't believe Frieza will be killed at the end. But wow. Didn't notice all the parallels in those pics before. That's kind of awesome.

[Ajay]

As poor as it is, Broli actually has some fleshed out backstory. His relationship with his father is at least moderately interesting. None of it is spectacular but at least it exists. With Janenba, it's entirely different. He has nothing to him. His film is interesting because of its action scenes and Goku and Vegeta's moments together. His design is great but let's not pretend there's anything more to him than that. Similarly, Hildegarn is barely a thing. He serves as a looming figure to flesh out Tapion's incredible character and to create pathos. He's nothing more than a booming beast. Hardly a fleshed out or memorable character on his own. Neither are bad but I feel as though fans remember them because the events written around them are so great.

Beerus' introduction in Battle of Gods was so perfect. He's as unique as they come and it truly blows my mind that anyone could think otherwise. His lethargy and goofiness work as perfect contrast to his utter lack of patience and need for violence. And yet, he's not an unreasonable villain, he respects his foes in a similar fashion to Goku. Heck, their love of food should make that astoundingly obvious, too. I see him as a great anti-Goku character. Their relationship on screen is fantastic. Beerus easily has the potential to grow to the same level of depth as Freeza.

Freeza is the most fleshed out villain that this series has ever had (alongside Piccolo Daimao). A maniacal, spoilt, arrogant space lord with a penchant for destruction and dominance. His cruelty is amplified by his merciless laugh, and his unnerving voice cracks as he screams like a baby who doesn't get his own way. There is nobody with the same level of character as Freeza. He is Toriyama's masterpiece villain portrayed to absolute perfection by the wonderful Ryusei Nakao. I cannot wait for his return in this film. I can't imagine it will be anything but incredible.

Toei's villains are not a touch on the work of Toriyama. The one's that come close are often rehashes of the man's own work. Coola is not a far cry from Freeza and Janenba is essentially Boo 2.0. Toei's work excels in creating stories that are moving. Movie 13 contains a moment between Trunks and Tapion that is easily one of the best scenes of all the films. The Bardock and Trunks specials are exceptional in their ability to tackle a much darker tone in the series while also retaining a feeling that is still very much Dragon Ball. Their villains are nowhere near to that standard.

It baffles me that we are slating this film based entirely around numerical power levels, conjecture and absurd fan-logic. There is nothing in this film that stretches very far from feats seen in the series previously. I mean, damn, people are picking at the name 'Golden Freeza' as though 'Super Saiyan' is any less absurd. There is no reason to be anything but mildly apprehensive at the most with regards to this film. Any further and I really struggle to take you the least bit seriously.

A lazy, pseudo-demi-god finally forced to do something with his natural abilities to succeed. Hell-bent on revenge for the sheer humiliation he suffered previously, he's not going to be easily defeated. Yet, we still don't know precisely how he achieves this power up. 'Four months' is being latched onto and blown entirely out of proportion.

Sensible conjecture should involve the fact we're seeing, what appears to be, nice little parallels between the two instances of Freeza. How Jaco might tie into all this and what his appearance means for the plot. Why Kamesennin is forced to get involved, and how bad things must be for Kuririn to put himself at risk after settling down with his family. These are all fun, positive lines of discussion that I really wish this thread would tackle instead of constant, unyielding pessimism over supposed continuity upsets.

[Tennessaiyan]

Couldn't agree more with you, Ajay Well said.

[sintzu]

I assure all of you that the minute Toriyama is done and we start getting Toie written movies everyone here will want him back.

The same thing happened with Batman,fans for some reason decided they didn't like Nolan anymore so they were complaining about his movies,saying he needs to go,he's holding Dc back,ect. yet the minute it was announced that Affleck was taking over everyone changed their minds about Nolan.

What did we read all the time before this movie was announced ? "Freeza was turned into a joke after Namek and deserved better" and now that Toriyama is trying to give him something better the fans who have wanted it are mad now ? I will give the Vegeta fans major credit cause at least they're happy about getting what they've been asking for and that's Vegeta finally saving the day by taking down a min villain.

If there's anything we can take from this is that a lot of fans don't know what they want and no matter how much a company listens it still won't be enough so the best thing is for them to do what they think is best and we can hope it is.

[fadeddreams5]

As poor as it is, Broli actually has some fleshed out backstory. His relationship with his father is at least moderately interesting. None of it is spectacular but at least it exists.

When I wrote "proper backstory," I meant a good one. I hate the entire concept of a legendary super saiyan, his history with Goku (there really isn't even one...), and, well, everything about his past. :3

With Janenba, it's entirely different. He has nothing to him. His design is great but let's not pretend there's anything more to him than that.

He's the embodiment of all the negative energy and evil in hell, yet looks and acts like an innocent baby. That contrast is hilarious. Many compare this to Buu, but Fat Buu was more of an innocent, yet obnoxious little kid. Janemba is a baby, and adorable. He has the most unique abilities in this entire series too. Only Buu compares there. His Super form may not be too interesting, but its design is badass.

He may not be a good character, if we're talking personality, but he is definitely memorable. IMO, he could have actually been a better villain than Buu. Imagine, he starts off in his baby form, but progressively grows more intelligent with each of his transformations (e.g. Baby Janemba intellect to Super Buu intellect to Buutenks intellect, on his own). Yes, more than one.

#TeamJanemba

His film is interesting because of its action scenes and Goku and Vegeta's moments together.

Besides the action and cool factor, his film is interesting because it's funny. I find this film's humor much, much, muuuch greater than BoG's, as it actually made me laugh several times. From Goku getting pummeled by a baby to Janemba creating a mini-Goku that blasts him with his own beam to Gohan one-shotting Frieza to Pikkon yelling at those crystals to the zombie moments and to Goten and Trunks fighting Hitler. Nice soundtrack on the English version too.

Best DBZ movie, imo.

[Doctor.]

He has the most unique abilities in this entire series too. Only Buu compares there.

I disagree, some of Boo's abilities are pretty generic, such as the regen and the manipulation of his own body. I'd be willing to argue Freeza has some interesting and unique abilities as well, such as that imprisoning sphere he used on Goku.