Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Post by GokuRules987 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:58 am

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mAcChaos wrote: Your question could be aimed at Freeza as he was in the series too though.

The strongest Saiayn was like 10,000 in PL, and Freeza had 150 million. Why would he fear them ever rebelling? It's because he's paranoid and cowardly.
Because he saw how easily they improved dramatically. Even some of their low class were starting to put his elites to shame. Its shown in the manga that Freeza knew about Zenkais and thanks to Oozaru, a 10.000 fighter could easily turn to a 100.000 fighter. If a saiyan got to 50.000, with Oozaru he would already rival first form Freeza. If Freeza was ambushed by fighters like that, since his transformations aren't instant, it could be dangerous even for him.

And to top it off, there was the legend of the SSJ.

His fears were justified. Unless he could train for 4 months and reach Beerus level... Oh, wait..
First, 99.9 percent of all saiyan population didnt have a power level of more than three thousand, there was only couple elite saiyans that had power level of 4-10k
and there was only 2 super elites who were vegeta and king vegeta who had a power level of more than 10k.
If its true that saiyans could improve dramically thru zenai why didnt they evolve? why is that that almost every single saiyan had a same power level like the other saiyan. Were they just not interested in competing against each other? Why is it that every saiyan was so weak. their only source of real power was too transform into ozaru.
Also frieza had a power level of 530,000 in his first form and not 50,000 so get your facts straight. Ozaru's are freaking slow and frieza knew about the weakness of their tails therefore he would had no problem dealing with saiyans.
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Post by Dyno » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:25 pm

GokuRules987 wrote:First, 99.9 percent of all saiyan population didnt have a power level of more than three thousand, there was only couple elite saiyans that had power level of 4-10k
and there was only 2 super elites who were vegeta and king vegeta who had a power level of more than 10k.
This is just your speculation.

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Post by Blade » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:36 pm

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GokuRules987 wrote:First, 99.9 percent of all saiyan population didnt have a power level of more than three thousand, there was only couple elite saiyans that had power level of 4-10k
and there was only 2 super elites who were vegeta and king vegeta who had a power level of more than 10k.
This is just your speculation.
Maybe the percentages are speculated on his part, but the gist is pretty accurate to what we know about Saiyans at the time they were fighting on behalf of the Planet Trade Organisation prior to Freeza's act of genocide.
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Post by Kakarot9001 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:58 pm

Bardock was a low-class Saiyan warrior and had 10,000 PL, so what?

We can't say that most of the Saiyans had average 2,000-3,000 PL

and considering how many get a Zenkai boost after battles conquering planets, that was something that could be worrying Freeza... They would continue to get stronger until they're unstoppable to Freeza deal it

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Post by SaiyanBaller22 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:00 pm

How do you guys believe the movie will end? I'm really hoping for a cliffhanger

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Post by sintzu » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:12 pm

SaiyanBaller22 wrote:How do you guys believe the movie will end? I'm really hoping for a cliffhanger
Freeza will be defeated but at this point it's hard to tell if he'll die or not.

I think we'll get a hint at what the next movie will be about but I don't think it'll be anything huge like someone dying then the movie ending.
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Post by Cetra » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:13 pm

SaiyanBaller22 wrote:How do you guys believe the movie will end? I'm really hoping for a cliffhanger
Pilaf: "There we go, guys! We got the Dragon Balls again!"
Mai: "Great! Now we can wish for the dragon to turn us old again!"
All three: "Come forth, Sacred Dragon!"
Shenlong: "You have called me. State your wish."
PIlaf: "I wish you would make us older!"
Mai and Shu: "Huh? Wait, not like this!"
Shenlong: "Your wish has been granted."
All three: "!"
All three: "Oh no ... not again ..."


A cliffhanger to something we already know.
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Post by Mewzard » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:18 pm

It's certainly a good time to be a Freeza fan.

Not so much for the Earth, but hey.

I wonder if Freeza will survive this...maybe he'll end up in a similar situation as the end of his fight with Goku...only to finally pull back that arrogant rage, laugh it off, and let them know he'll train even harder to defeat them next time. A little bit of character growth, where the training and fights have him finally appreciate that Saiyan love for battle.

Could even apprentice as the next God of Destruction. Freeza would fit the role more than Goku, that's for sure.
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Post by Doctor. » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:27 pm

The ending of the movie is probably, somehow, gonna setup the multiverse.

Because I don't see a reason for Freeza to be revived just to be killed off in the same movie.

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Post by Kakarot9001 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:29 pm

Cetra wrote:Pilaf: "There we go, guys! We got the Dragon Balls again!"
Mai: "Great! Now we can wish for the dragon to turn us old again!"
All three: "Come forth, Sacred Dragon!"
Shenlong: "You have called me. State your wish."
PIlaf: "I wish you would make us older!"
Mai and Shu: "Huh? Wait, not like this!"
Shenlong: "Your wish has been granted."
All three: "!"
All three: "Oh no ... not again ..."


A cliffhanger to something we already know.
Yeah, this... And that somehow Freeza loses his "evolution" and power making a good point for GT exists

Mewzard wrote:It's certainly a good time to be a Freeza fan.

Not so much for the Earth, but hey.

I wonder if Freeza will survive this...maybe he'll end up in a similar situation as the end of his fight with Goku...only to finally pull back that arrogant rage, laugh it off, and let them know he'll train even harder to defeat them next time. A little bit of character growth, where the training and fights have him finally appreciate that Saiyan love for battle.

Could even apprentice as the next God of Destruction. Freeza would fit the role more than Goku, that's for sure.
Freeza becoming a God like Beerus for all the eternity? Hell, no...

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Post by Blade » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:32 pm

SaiyanBaller22 wrote:How do you guys believe the movie will end? I'm really hoping for a cliffhanger
In my opinion, given Toriyama's recent penchant for not going into dark places plot-wise, I doubt there will be any lasting harm to good-guys or sinister consequences. I think the ending will probably be a 'the world is saved in time for tea!' sort of affair.
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Post by Doctor. » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:33 pm

Can we please just forget about GT?

Forever and ever.

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Post by Cetra » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:34 pm

Doctor. wrote:Can we please just forget about GT?

Forever and ever.
No?
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They won't give up, and will with all their strength believe GT is the true sequel... You'd better give up, for a while.
Being so smug will not change thé fact that you do not understand law and logic in these terms.
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Post by White Oni » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:46 pm

Prediction time:

1) Movie takes place in an alternate universe.

2) Vegeta and bulma aren't a thing and trunk and goten were never born.

3) frieza overpowers Vegeta and goku at first.

4) future trunks makes an appearance.

5) Jaco tries to warn people of crap that no one listens to and eventually gives up and travels to the main universe where he warns the main time line goku and vegeta.

6) earth and everyone on it is destroyed.

7) either freeza wins and travels to the next universe or a vegeta, turned evil, does. Or, maybe they both do.

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Post by Kakarot9001 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:46 pm

Cetra wrote:
Doctor. wrote:Can we please just forget about GT?

Forever and ever.
No?

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Post by Dyno » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:51 pm

Doctor. wrote:Can we please just forget about GT?

Forever and ever.
They won't give up, and will with all their strength believe GT is the true sequel... You'd better give up, for a while.

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Post by Vegitofaxx » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:52 pm

White Oni wrote:Prediction time:

1) Movie takes place in an alternate universe.

2) Vegeta and bulma aren't a thing and trunk and goten were never born.

3) Freeza overpowers Vegeta and goku at first.

4) future trunks makes an appearance.

5) Jaco tries to warn people of crap that no one listens to and eventually gives up and travels to the main universe where he warns the main time line goku and vegeta.

6) earth and everyone on it is destroyed.

7) either freeza wins and travels to the next universe or a vegeta, turned evil, does. Or, maybe they both do.
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Post by Doctor. » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:55 pm

My personal bet is that after the Earth blows up and they defeat Freeza, somehow the Namekian Dragon Balls won't be functioning, and they'll be forced to go to another universe and seek some method of revival.

Kinda like a rehash of the end of the Saiyan arc, but on a much, much, bigger scale.

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Post by GokuRules987 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:03 pm

Kakarot9001 wrote:Bardock was a low-class Saiyan warrior and had 10,000 PL, so what?

We can't say that most of the Saiyans had average 2,000-3,000 PL

and considering how many get a Zenkai boost after battles conquering planets, that was something that could be worrying Freeza... They would continue to get stronger until they're unstoppable to Freeza deal it
Again your wrong, Bardock power level being 10,000 was non canon. I dont remember if it was vegeta or nappa who said that Bardock power level was actually around 940 when Gohan was powering up but it sure wasent bigger than Nappa's. And since majority of saiyan population werent able to become elites or have a power level of more than 4,000 there is no evidence that zenkai boosts really were effective for them. There could have been other roles that played in the factor, such as their lifestyle or the chance that a saiyan who was heavily injured during the fight didn't make it.
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Post by Dyno » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:05 pm

GokuRules987 wrote:Again your wrong, Bardock power level being 10,000 was non canon. I dont remember if it was vegeta or nappa who said that Bardock power level was actually around 940 when Gohan was powering up but it sure wasent bigger than Nappa's. And since majority of saiyan population werent able to become elites or have a power level of more than 4,000 there is no evidence that zenkai boosts really were effective for them. There could have been other roles that played in the factor, such as their lifestyle or the chance that a saiyan who was heavily injured during the fight didn't make it.

You may want to re-watch the TV Special and Saiyan saga, in Japanese just to be sure. :eh:

All the rest... Your speculation again.

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