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Hugo Boss
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by Hugo Boss » Sun Mar 15, 2015 7:29 am
Saitou Hajime wrote:Kamiccolo9 wrote:I mean, the first time Gohan goes "ultimate," the old Kaioshin tells him to "Do that Super Saiyan thing and throw in a kiai."
That last part alone makes it a different process than going Super Saiyan, and there is nothing that says he can't go Super Saiyan anymore.
So, any contradiction that this brings up is made up by fans. The actual story doesn't suggest it.
Aren't there plenty of SSJ transformations with a kiai thrown in, especially the first time ones like the Ultimate transformation was? And in movie 13, Gohan doesn't shout at all and snap transforms into Ultimate like he would as a SSJ.
Yes, but I believe being thrown in a kiai is a bonus to first time transformations. Even in movie 13 Gohan powers-up to Ultimate, turn it off and then turn it on again.
