How would you have done GT differently?

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Re: How would you have done GT differently?

Post by Scott » Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:57 pm

Well first off the animation would be very different. I didn't think it really looked like Dragonball, the backgrounds looked too different when compared to the rest of the series.

Goku woud have been a kid for 1 saga and that is it. Goku got annoying pretty fast as a kid in GT. Also, him needing to be an adult when transforming into Super Saiyan 4 was just really stupid.

Super Saiyan 4 wouldn't have happened or wouldn't have looked like that. It looks cool but it's too dfferent from the Super Saiyan 1,2 and 3 look. If it had to happen and look like that then i wouldn't have called it Super Saiyan 4, i would have called it the Ultimate Super Saiyan transformation

Uub would have been a far better character. Pan had so much air time in this show when it was Uub who should have been given a the bigger role. Z ended in a way where i thought that Uub was going to be such an important character for GT, but he never was.

Pan would have been less of a whiny little brat. She would also have featured a lot less.

Giru wouldn't have existed.

All of the Z fighters would have featured a lot more than they did. It was basically the Goku, Trunks and Pan show. The only time we really see any of the other characters is when they are turned into punching bags.

Vegeta and Trunks designs were awful, they would look far different if i had it my way. Actually, a lot of the designs in this series is poor. Most of the main characters would look different.

Well known areas throughout the series would have featured more. Master Roshi's island was barely ever seen.

Trunks attitude as a kid should have remained in him as an adult. This is the son of Vegeta and Bulma, give him a bit of an attitude.

The enemies were too powerful. This show's villains made the villains of Dragonball Z look weak. Kid Buu weaker than Rilldo ?..............come on.

Super 17, i like the idea, but why does he look that way ? Surely he should look exactly like the original 17 with only the clothes looking slightly different.

That episode where Goku is in hell and he makes Cell and Frieza look like a joke.......no, i don't think so, that episode would never have existed if i was in charge. These 2 characters are 2 of the biggest villains in the history of the show. You don't turn them into a joke.

Better music

Piccolo would not have remained in hell.

The shadow Dragons. This for me was the perfect idea for the final chapter of the Dragonball series, but they went and screwed it up. 4 of them are terribly designed for a start. Haze, Rage, Oceanus and Naturon look terrible, i would have come up with far better designs for them. This was the perfect chance to give the other z fighters some air time, there were enough villains to fight. Goku vs Syn, Vegeta vs Nouva, Goten and Trunks vs Eis, Gohan and Piccolo vs Rage, Uub/Majuub vs Haze ( this is the battle where i would have Uub and Buu fuse together ), 17 and 18 vs Oceanus, Krillin, Yamcha, Tien, Chiaotzu and Master Roshi vs Naturon on Master Roshi's island. Then at the end, Syn obsorbs the Dragonballs and Goku and the others all fight together to stop him.

I could probably come up with more but that will do for now :D
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Re: How would you have done GT differently?

Post by WittyUsername » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:18 pm

1. I would have not had Goku become a child again.

2. The other characters would be more useful. There's no arguing that Goku was essentially the only character that was ever really useful in a fight in GT.

3. Put more emphasis on the action, and the threat of the villains. The first 15 episodes of the series, or "The Lost Epsiodes" as Funimation called them, are pretty boring to sit through looking back.

4. Make the Evil Dragons arc longer, and drop the "villain of the week" format that the first few episodes of that arc suffered from. The concept of that arc was near, but the execution left much to be desired.

5. Make the ending less...confusing.

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Re: How would you have done GT differently?

Post by Kakacarrottop » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:34 pm

Scott wrote:The enemies were too powerful. This show's villains made the villains of Dragonball Z look weak. Kid Buu weaker than Rilldo ?..............come on.
So you're trying to tell me villains like Haze/Rage/Oceanus/Naturon Shenron, the Para Para Brothers, Don Kee, Zoonama, Lord Yao and Luud were too strong? If anything the GT villains were too weak.
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Re: How would you have done GT differently?

Post by TJVY » Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:52 pm

Kakacarrottop wrote:
Scott wrote:The enemies were too powerful. This show's villains made the villains of Dragonball Z look weak. Kid Buu weaker than Rilldo ?..............come on.
So you're trying to tell me villains like Haze/Rage/Oceanus/Naturon Shenron, the Para Para Brothers, Don Kee, Zoonama, Lord Yao and Luud were too strong? If anything the GT villains were too weak.
Scott isn't referring to those characters I don't think, he's referring to characters like Ledgic, General Rildo (As he mentioned), Baby and Super 17. I can't remember many other villains in GT, but it does seem quite ridiculous for the latter three characters to surpass Buu's power level. Power levels are BS in GT anyway, so it's not really worth discussing I suppose.

I do agree with Scott however that it is something GT should have handled a lot better.
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Re: How would you have done GT differently?

Post by Codarik » Sun Mar 15, 2015 2:04 am

-Goku never became a kid again.
-Give Uub more screen time.
-Super Saiyan Pan.

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Re: How would you have done GT differently?

Post by MCDaveG » Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:56 am

To tell a truth, I was little pissed off that Pan remained kind of unimportant and weak, no SSJ when I saw the show as a kid, but that was mostly because I wanted to see female SSJ as Bra is unusable.
But with some time gap, I am relieved. Even part of a dumb plot, I must actually give some pros to the writers, that they didn't make her a carbon copy of Goten and Trunks, turning her SSJ in young age and make her overpowered.
She is really Gohan's daughter - a really strong prodigy, that took down Goten on Budokai (even if it was mostly for gag purposes), but she doesn't train later like Trunks or Goten and so is not that powerful when grown-up.

But in the end, she is somewhat useless and annoying character, that I don't care about at all - just a whiny little girl, which I think is also because fault of her voice actress.
To me the submisive and weak female characters in all anime original dub are almost unlistenable thanks to the Japanese acting.

I actually stopped watching One Piece during Fishermen's Island arc because of that Princess. I really wanted her to die off as I couldn't listen to her anymore.
Also tried Xenoverse with english dub and had the same problem with Kaioshin of Time - her Japanese counterpart sounds normal.
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Re: How would you have done GT differently?

Post by baneofdemon22 » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:17 am

Lord Beerus wrote:- Oob, Pan and Bra the main characters
- Goku remains adult and plays a supporting role as opposed to running the whole damn show
- Giru doesn't exist
- Vegeta plays the mentor role for the new generation of fighters
- The Super #17 arc doesn't exist
- The new generation of fighters defeat the Shadow Dragons
- The Baby arc doesn't exist
- Balance the bloody power scales
Darn it! That list is perfect, man!

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Re: How would you have done GT differently?

Post by Eire » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:37 am

What was wrong with Baby arc?
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Re: How would you have done GT differently?

Post by Dbzfan94 » Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:03 pm

1) Goku becomes a kid for the Black Star Saga and that's it. And isn't completely OP either.
2) Goten and Trunks go into space with Goku. (like it was supposed to be until Pan messed it up. :( )
3) Make the planets more interesting
4) Ledgic has a bigger role, maybe more of a recurring anti-hero like a bounty hunter who runs into the GT team occasionally or something. idk
5) Rildo is stronger than Goku and forces Goten and Trunks to fuse.
6) Baby Saga is mostly the same.
7) Pan and Bulla/Bra turn SSJ at some point, cant think of a specific scenario. Maybe out of rage for their father's being possessed and Goku didn't arrive yet.
8 ) Uub doesn't fuse with Buu, but masters his Kid Buu powers and becomes just as strong.
9) Piccolo doesn't die!
10) Change the Super 17 Saga completely. Make it someone like Cell instead with a powerup somehow. Would make a lot more sense than 17 + 17 >> SSJ4 Goku
11) Cell doesn't have the BS ability Super 17 had.
12) Villains from Hell are still released, and while Gohan is fighting Cell all the other Z Fighters (humans included) are fighting other past villains.
13) The first four Shadow Dragons (Rage, Haze, Oceanus and Naturon) are redesigned completely and made stronger. Especially the mole one.
14) Nouva and Eis are fine but they should've fought as a team.
15) Each Z Fighter fights a Shadow Dragon
16) Vegeta gets SSJ4 naturally.
17) Team effort against Omega Shenron, even with SSJ3 GT Gotenks, Piccolo, Uub, Ultimate Gohan and SSJ4 Goku/Vegeta they cant beat him.
18) Goku and Vegeta fuse into SSJ4 Gogeta and destroy Omega with Big Bang Kamehameha
19) The Dragon Balls leave but Goku stays on Earth
20) Have an epilogue similar to DBO, like Gohan's book and Goten's/Trunks' school

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Re: How would you have done GT differently?

Post by ABED » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:09 pm

I don't know all of the specifics, but the biggest changes would be to make the fights more interesting and impactful (though not longer), make Pan mature more over the course of the series, and utilize the rest of the cast better. I've said it for a while, the Evil Dragons arc is the perfect time to have the other characters besides Goku contribute. For instance, have Goten and Trunks fight the 2-Star Dragon (the one that pollutes and saps people's strength).
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Re: How would you have done GT differently?

Post by tx3 » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:57 am

i had done it better

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Re: How would you have done GT differently?

Post by ABED » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:23 am

tx3 wrote:i had done it better
I'm sure you would have. :roll:
In all seriousness, would you care to elaborate instead of just saying that you would have done it better?
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Re: How would you have done GT differently?

Post by tx3 » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:53 am

ABED wrote:
tx3 wrote:i had done it better
I'm sure you would have. :roll:
In all seriousness, would you care to elaborate instead of just saying that you would have done it better?
it's simpel to point out the flaws

GT tried something good in the core ...but executed it so badly that they had to go back to the old formula

first of all ..pan sucks

the choice of characters was Bad

GT tried to aim on younger viewers ...not a good idea ..most DB fans where young adults at the end of DB Z. they choosed Pan ..trying to catch female viewers but didnt quite get it cause she was lame.

young Son Goku tried the same ...catch young viewers ..the thing is as i said befor DB fan where a bit to old.

as they went back to the old formular they did not quite catch the action of Z ...

couple of things wrong with GT ...its just a mess to sum it up

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