Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Dyno]

Besides that, Freeza returned only to ne humiliated. This time

This time better not fuck with him up.

[dbzfan7]

Freeza has been brought back 5 times. Cell has been brought back 3 times. Tao has been brought back twice. Piccolo had been brought back twice and became a mainstay. Kid Boo is brought back as Oob. A bunch of people were brought back in Fusion Reborn and Super 17 arc in GT. Broly has been back 3 times. Cooler has been brought back 3 times. This is not some special unseen event.

Freeza is by far the most iconic villain of the series. Also most of that stuff you mentioned didn't really happen. Besides that, Freeza returned only to be humiliated.

Yeah and his story concluded already. I love Freeza but his time was up.

Hm...I'm looking up in the Manga and see Freeza return there. I'm looking at the other world saga where Freeza returned there. I'm looking at the PTETS OVA and he returned there. I see he returned in movie 12 too. I look at GT and there's Freeza again. So I was wrong...this is his 6th time returning. Last I checked those other properties do exist, unless I live in some world where none of those things actually happened and none of those episodes, manga scene, or movies exist and are merely fanfiction I saw in dreams.

[Gianchio]

I'm thinking a Freeza trains at a thousands times gravity to be stronger than the the z fighters.

1,000 times gravity is really nothing at this po int.

[MCDaveG]

dbzfan7 is right, if DB taught me anything, it is that everyone returns, be it crazy Buddhist hell's fault or someone with too much magic or balls in his hands.

My girlfriend even stopped watching DB, because she was tired how no one really dies, so she switched to Gintama... ehm.
I didn't expect Freeza being brought back when they announced the movie and when the rumours spread out, I was like: ''yeah, right...''
Then I saw the poster. I am extremely happy, as Freeza was always this classic villain for me, and the truest one.
He worked for his power, not like genetic construct Cell or magic bubblegum Buu and he deserves his proper revenge.

What bugs me still is absence of Goten and Trunks, even tough they are fusion fodder.

[Gianchio]

Besides that, Freeza returned only to ne humiliated. This time

This time better not fuck with him up.

Sorry, my touch screen is broken.

[Captain Space]

Evidently until this movie he didn't, in fact, work for his power.

Also, Gintama: Very good show, but seems kind of an odd thing to substitute for DBZ. Like, completely different style of thing.

[Gianchio]

Freeza has been brought back 5 times. Cell has been brought back 3 times. Tao has been brought back twice. Piccolo had been brought back twice and became a mainstay. Kid Boo is brought back as Oob. A bunch of people were brought back in Fusion Reborn and Super 17 arc in GT. Broly has been back 3 times. Cooler has been brought back 3 times. This is not some special unseen event.

Freeza is by far the most iconic villain of the series. Also most of that stuff you mentioned didn't really happen. Besides that, Freeza returned only to be humiliated.

Yeah and his story concluded already. I love Freeza but his time was up.

Hm...I'm looking up in the Manga and see Freeza return there. I'm looking at the other world saga where Freeza returned there. I'm looking at the PTETS OVA and he returned there. I see he returned in movie 12 too. I look at GT and there's Freeza again. So I was wrong...this is his 6th time returning. Last I checked those other properties do exist, unless I live in some world where none of those things actually happened and none of those episodes, manga scene, or movies exist and are merely fanfiction I saw in dreams.

I don't want to start the canon debate, so I will stop talking about this.

[SonsOfUlron21]

I'm thinking a Freeza trains at a thousands times gravity to be stronger than the the z fighters.

1,000 times gravity is really nothing at this po int.

The manga suggest they had advanced technology I'm sure they have something for him to train.

[Gianchio]

I'm thinking a Freeza trains at a thousands times gravity to be stronger than the the z fighters.

1,000 times gravity is really nothing at this po int.

The manga suggest they had advanced technology I'm sure they have something for him to train.

I'm not even sure they will show or explain his training

[MCDaveG]

Evidently until this movie he didn't, in fact, work for his power.

Also, Gintama: Very good show, but seems kind of an odd thing to substitute for DBZ. Like, completely different style of thing.

It gets weirder, she doesn't really like anime at all. She is a Japanologist (with a degree) and hates modern anime, except for Gintama.
Her most favorite movie is Last Unicorn. She enjoyed Dragon Ball until they ressurected Krillin for the second time...

[Captain Space]

Evidently until this movie he didn't, in fact, work for his power.

Also, Gintama: Very good show, but seems kind of an odd thing to substitute for DBZ. Like, completely different style of thing.

It gets weirder, she doesn't really like anime at all. She is a Japanologist (with a degree) and hates modern anime, except for Gintama.
Her most favorite movie is Last Unicorn. She enjoyed Dragon Ball until they ressurected Krillin for the second time...

Huh.

[SSJGFrieza]

It's a flaw because it is a total mischaracterization of character, Vegeta was always depicted as a arrogant, proud and serious person, the way he fear Beerus at the point of being ridiculous without even knowing his powers (he says that in the movie) it's a plot hole.

You don't understand the concept of character development do you?

[dbzfan7]

Freeza is by far the most iconic villain of the series. Also most of that stuff you mentioned didn't really happen. Besides that, Freeza returned only to be humiliated.

Yeah and his story concluded already. I love Freeza but his time was up.

Hm...I'm looking up in the Manga and see Freeza return there. I'm looking at the other world saga where Freeza returned there. I'm looking at the PTETS OVA and he returned there. I see he returned in movie 12 too. I look at GT and there's Freeza again. So I was wrong...this is his 6th time returning. Last I checked those other properties do exist, unless I live in some world where none of those things actually happened and none of those episodes, manga scene, or movies exist and are merely fanfiction I saw in dreams.

I don't want to start the canon debate, so I will stop talking about this.

Canon and non canon does not matter in the least. Point is he's been brought back 6 times now. Doesn't matter if you don't include half of those reappearances as Freeza has already returned in the franchise several times. Which is why the idea to me is not very appealing. It's like nobody had a clue for what to do for the next movie and a multi-verse idea. So after Toriyama listens to Maximum the Hormone's "F" he pitches that since we got nothing, let's just use Freeza again for the 6th time.

[Bullza]

Even then I don't like it there. I'd hate if Dragon Ball went the american comic way. Else why not have Cell return, and then Boo.

I'm sure this is a one time only deal. This idea of bringing back a villain like this only works if it's Freeza. They're not about to bring back Cell or the others.

I think it's pretty interesting myself they never really bring back main villains to relevance again once that have been dealt with in manga.

Freeza has been brought back 5 times. Cell has been brought back 3 times. Tao has been brought back twice. Piccolo had been brought back twice and became a mainstay. Kid Boo is brought back as Oob. A bunch of people were brought back in Fusion Reborn and Super 17 arc in GT. Broly has been back 3 times. Cooler has been brought back 3 times. This is not some special unseen event.

Of which the majority of those instances were due to filler and the majority of them weren't to relevance like I just said.

Frieza in the Trunks saga wasn't brought back so much as he was just concluded. Piccolo wasn't brought back as he was really just part of a continuation. Uub obviously doesn't count as he isn't a villain.

In the canon they have never brought back a former main villain to once again be a credible threat in the same way that American comics do all the time.

[SSJGFrieza]

It's a flaw because it is a total mischaracterization of character, Vegeta was always depicted as a arrogant, proud and serious person, the way he fear Beerus at the point of being ridiculous without even knowing his powers (he says that in the movie) it's a plot hole.

You don't understand the concept of character development do you?

Let's face it the only ones who hated BoG are Z fans who think Dragonball should be staring, screaming and violent all the time.

[Hugo Boss]

Ressurection F sounds weird when translated into Portuguese (Ressureição Freeza). Maybe English has its own way to make sense. I would prefer "The Ressurection of F". I wonder how the brazilian studio will translate it.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

It's a flaw because it is a total mischaracterization of character, Vegeta was always depicted as a arrogant, proud and serious person, the way he fear Beerus at the point of being ridiculous without even knowing his powers (he says that in the movie) it's a plot hole.

You don't understand the concept of character development do you?

It is pointless engaging discussion with Kakarot9001 especially since he admitted that he doesn't bother reading people's posts.

[Gianchio]

Yeah and his story concluded already. I love Freeza but his time was up.

Hm...I'm looking up in the Manga and see Freeza return there. I'm looking at the other world saga where Freeza returned there. I'm looking at the PTETS OVA and he returned there. I see he returned in movie 12 too. I look at GT and there's Freeza again. So I was wrong...this is his 6th time returning. Last I checked those other properties do exist, unless I live in some world where none of those things actually happened and none of those episodes, manga scene, or movies exist and are merely fanfiction I saw in dreams.

I don't want to start the canon debate, so I will stop talking about this.

Canon and non canon does not matter in the least. Point is he's been brought back 6 times now. Doesn't matter if you don't include half of those reappearances as Freeza has already returned in the franchise several times. Which is why the idea to me is not very appealing. It's like nobody had a clue for what to do for the next movie and a multi-verse idea. So after Toriyama listens to Maximum the Hormone's "F" he pitches that since we got nothing, let's just use Freeza again for the 6th time.

Well, he is the kind of person who acts like this.

[EA575]

I was hoping for this, but Ihonestly wasn't expecting they'll announce their acquisition today and just go with the safer "Kai Buu arc dub" announcement. Glad to hear we're getting a movie release before Japan for once It seems like Funimation as a company are really trying to catch up to Japan this past year with the simultaneous Space Dandy airing (even though the episodes were aired before Japan), the broadcast dubs to release dubbed episodes of currently airing shows, and now this. I couldn't be any happier that a company is trying their best to achieve the dream of simultaneous anime releases instead of being complacent with the status quo.
This almost makes up for the terrible home releases we've been getting

[dbzfan7]

I'm sure this is a one time only deal. This idea of bringing back a villain like this only works if it's Freeza. They're not about to bring back Cell or the others.

I think it's pretty interesting myself they never really bring back main villains to relevance again once that have been dealt with in manga.

Freeza has been brought back 5 times. Cell has been brought back 3 times. Tao has been brought back twice. Piccolo had been brought back twice and became a mainstay. Kid Boo is brought back as Oob. A bunch of people were brought back in Fusion Reborn and Super 17 arc in GT. Broly has been back 3 times. Cooler has been brought back 3 times. This is not some special unseen event.

Of which the majority of those instances were due to filler and the majority of them weren't to relevance like I just said.

Freeza in the Trunks saga wasn't brought back so much as he was just concluded. Piccolo wasn't brought back as he was really just part of a continuation. Uub obviously doesn't count as he isn't a villain.

In the canon they have never brought back a former main villain to once again be a credible threat in the same way that American comics do all the time.

The point is we've had villains brought back in some shape or form numerous times. This idea has been used to death in this franchise. Trying to hide behind "Canon" is a shitty excuse to discount this is Freeza's 6TH TIME returning. That means the idea of Freeza's return has been utilized numerous times. Doesn't matter if only now he's a threat again, fact is we've had Freeza return a whole bunch when we had a satisfying conclusion for him with Goku, and then Freeza passed the villain torch to the cyborgs. He played his role and we moved on. Now we're regressing back to him.