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How about Super Saiyan God Goku vs Asura from Asura's Wrath in his Destructor Form that he used to fight Chakavartin in space.
For those who dont know Asura was flying much faster than light and was easily blasting away multiple Planets and Stars that were being thrown at him at like up to a dozen at a time. He's also larger than the Earth.
I'm sure Goku could probably do the same though if he'd be capable of destroying a Solar System but he's probably not as fast nor as strong.
Helios518 wrote:LSSJ3 Broly vs Base Super Buu (No absorption)
Freeza Saga Piccolo (Fused w/ Kami and Nail) vs 4th Form Freeza
-Buu sneezes while on the same planet as Broly and accidentally kills him.
-Piccolo gets one-shotted. Fusing with Kami is only a 2x boost.
Angelus wrote:SSJ Future Trunks with sword (first appearance in the main timeline) VS Androids Saga/Pre-ROSAT Piccolo, Tenshinhan, Krillin, Yamcha, Base Gohan, Vegeta, and Goku
-Piccolo stomps Trunks.
@Bullza
-I don't know who that is, but I'm just gonna go with a gut feeling and say that thing wins.
Dyno wrote:Going only by speed: Hermes (greek mythology) vs Tao Pai Pai
Herms.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Bullza wrote:How about Super Saiyan God Goku vs Asura from Asura's Wrath in his Destructor Form that he used to fight Chakavartin in space.
For those who dont know Asura was flying much faster than light and was easily blasting away multiple Planets and Stars that were being thrown at him at like up to a dozen at a time. He's also larger than the Earth.
I'm sure Goku could probably do the same though if he'd be capable of destroying a Solar System but he's probably not as fast nor as strong.
No DBZ character will touch that form of Asura. He even stomps Superman. lol.
"Dragon Ball once became a thing of the past to me, but after that, I got angry about the live action movie, re-wrote an entire movie script, and now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime. It seems Dragon Ball has grown on me so much that I can't leave it alone." - Akira Toriyama on Dragon Ball Super
Tullece (after consuming fruit) vs Vegeta (Saiyan saga)
Lord Slug vs Piccolo (Android saga before fusing w/ Kami)
Cooler (5th form) vs Android 19
Buuhan vs Super Bebi Vegeta
Super 17 vs Super Janemba
"Dragon Ball once became a thing of the past to me, but after that, I got angry about the live action movie, re-wrote an entire movie script, and now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime. It seems Dragon Ball has grown on me so much that I can't leave it alone." - Akira Toriyama on Dragon Ball Super
SSJ2 Teen Gohan vs Dabura*
SSJ2 Adult Gohan vs Perfect Cell*
(Buu Saga) SSJ4 Vegeta vs Base Super Buu or Buutenks*
*Dabura = no spitting. Cell,And Buu = no absorbing
Come on now, a new stack of versus just like that? Too many matches for a 24 hour period.
SSJ2 Teen Gohan vs Dabura*
SSJ2 Adult Gohan vs Perfect Cell*
This already happened. Dabura lost. If you mean the Cell Games Gohan that's SSJ2, then Dabura gets beaten even quicker.
Cell get's destroyed. Cell isn't SSJ2 Tier. SPC is.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
Lord Slug vs Piccolo (Android saga before fusing w/ Kami)
Cooler (5th form) vs Android 19
Buuhan vs Super Bebi Vegeta
Super 17 vs Super Janemba
Piccolo wins with some effort
19 stomps Cooler
Bebi wins using at least 3 quarters of his power unless Buu absorbs him or uses candy beam
Super 17 dugged a grave and Janemba walked right into it
Last edited by Helios518 on Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:01 am, edited 1 time in total.
Helios518 wrote:SSJ2 Teen Gohan vs Dabura*
SSJ2 Adult Gohan vs Perfect Cell*
(Buu Saga) SSJ4 Vegeta vs Base Super Buu or Buutenks*
*Dabura = no spitting. Cell,And Buu = no absorbing
fadeddreams5 wrote:Tullece (after consuming fruit) vs Dr. Wheelo
Tullece (after consuming fruit) vs Vegeta (Saiyan saga)
Lord Slug vs Piccolo (Android saga before fusing w/ Kami)
Cooler (5th form) vs Android 19
Buuhan vs Super Bebi Vegeta
Super 17 vs Super Janemba
- Turles stomps
- Turles stomps again
- Piccolo wreck Lord Slug
- Android 19 via absorption
- Buuhan. Screw GT logic.
Helios518 wrote:SSJ2 Teen Gohan vs Dabura*
SSJ2 Adult Gohan vs Perfect Cell*
(Buu Saga) SSJ4 Vegeta vs Base Super Buu or Buutenks*
*Dabura = no spitting. Cell,And Buu = no absorbing
- Gohan annihilates Dabura
- Adult Gohan stomps
- The multiplier for SSJ4 is unknown. So I guess... Vegeta.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta and Potara Fusion of Beerus and Whis vs. Majin Naturon Shenron with (Super Baby Buu Janemba (Garlic Jr., Broly, Super 17 (Android 16 absorbed), Frieza and Cell absorbed)) absorbed
"The life is the hardest video games of ever. Because you have only one life and the powers are kinda lame. And sometimes a stage takes years"
"The life is a game, the objective of the game is trying to find the objective of the game, and then, finish the game"
--by Ranely Jr
Whatever that enemy is, a Potara Fusion of Beerus and Whis should be more than enough.
Super 17 absorbs 16
Super Buu absorbs Garlic Jr., Broly, Super 17, Freeza and Cell
Baby possesses Janemba
Super Buu absorbs Baby Janemba
Naturon Shenron absorbs Super Baby Buu Janemba
Babidi appears and makes him a Majin
He'll be the last boss in Dragon Ball Heroes.
"The life is the hardest video games of ever. Because you have only one life and the powers are kinda lame. And sometimes a stage takes years"
"The life is a game, the objective of the game is trying to find the objective of the game, and then, finish the game"
--by Ranely Jr
Still, a Beerus and Whis potara fusion would be enough to beat that insane enemy. And there's SSJ4 Gogeta in there too. However insanely silly mixed that enemy is, that pair is more than enough to beat it.
WTF? That insane mix of a villain actually appears in Dragon Ball Heroes?
