Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[dbzfan7]

Well didn't Goten and Trunks sorta forget ki sensing when fighting Abo Cado? They didn't in the manga version of YSGAFR if that holds precedence, but in the anime Gohan at least had to tell Goten to feel for Kado's Ki.

[Dyno]

Spoiler:

Are you...fucking serious? What type of lame ass excuse is that? They can't sense ki? They can't sense Gohan being Koed. The planet is being attacked yet they are not "told" because fucking Bulma said so? What type of shitting writing bullshit is this? Fuck outta here with that. Ten can fight. But kids with SSJ and a fusion ha dance can't? Fuck no. This is the true despair isn't it. I nearly died reading this. Don't give me "they waste time", "To playful", or "Eh, they're not my favorite characters" or this and that. Fact is Krillin, Ten, and Roshi is fighting. Yet characters who can HELP aren't. You gotta be joking. If this movie going to fuck me in the ass like this then at least buy me some dinner first.

I'm hoping for a scene of them defending girlfriends or impressing chicks by kicking Freeza's men ass. But I doubt we will get that. Ugh. Jokes for me for keeping my hopes up. How can something so obvious be so easy to miss. Freeza wants Goku and Trunks DEAD. There's TWO characters who look just like them. You GOTTA be joking. You gotta be.

Vegeta talks about SSJ the Entire Namek arc. Goku is a special kid the entire story. Goku is SSJ. Predictable.

Goku surprised a magically earth filled with talking PIGS. He's a Saiyan from Vegeta Predictable.

Gohan rage the entire story. Finally he rage is let loose and kills Cell. Predict.

How hard is that? Just have a scene of Freeza seeing the two kids-Teens whatever they are and let it play itself out. But we need Ten to fight over a fusion. Why the fuck does Bulma not want them to fight? This the same woman who banged a space alien, wanted to see Freeza, travel the world AS A Kid, ask If a 4 year old Gohan can fight, let his son fight Boo, and allowed her son to fight Avocado. Now the purple headed girl don't want her little boy to fight. Bullshit. It would make sense if Chi Chi said it or something.

Aren't Goten and Trunks 12-15 around this time anyways? They have super powers. They're troublemakers. Break the rules! And you would think Majin fucking Boo would be awake to protect Satan,Videl, and Pan. But nope toss him out like Gotenks because this is Freeza Saga reunion! So creative! .

So lemme get this straight once again. There's a HIGHER THAN EVER chance that Goten or Trunks won't appear because of a stupid excuse of "Bulma said not to". I know Goten and Trunks aren't the brightest people in the world but are they that fucking stupid that they forgot how to fucking sense ki? Do they need class? It's just millions of people flying in the air. Not a bird. Not Planet Kyprtonian or whatever Super man planet is called. Because if they need glasses then I'll gladly send money to the Support Gotenks Eyes fund.

I haven't been negative a lot . Only bitched about Golden Freeza and SSJ Gohan. But this is too far. No Goten or Trunks. Not even Gotenks!? This is a dream right? Just a dream. I'm finna to wake up and see new designs for Goten.


God please! Toriyama please. Put them in the damn movie! I beg of you. It's like....WHY!?. Why? We have a Ssj Freeza. But not actual SSJ(S) that make sense? No Fusion to kill a lot more bad guys than Krillin, Ten, and Roshi can COMBINED?! I refuse to accept it. This is a major con. A major con.....


Did I just read Bulma is fighting? HER SON and Goten can't fight but she the inferior being can't? Wow OK. Very nice. Very nice.

You are just me younger (?). I would probably write a text like this if my favorite character (and one of the protagonists) isn't in a movie with this proportion. It will be really sad if Son Goten does not appear in the actual movie, come on, a fucking Muten Roshi with his power level of 139, Bulma apparently will fight... And those kids won't make their way to the movie!? THE PROTAGONISTS!? Wow...

I feel you, bro. I really do.

[ScholarGohan]

[Sandubadear]

The impression I'm getting from this is that Jaco saves Tagoma.

Maybe Tagoma is an infiltrated man from the Galactic Police.

[TheGmGoken]

Well didn't Goten and Trunks sorta forget ki sensing when fighting Abo Cado? They didn't in the manga version of YSGAFR if that holds precedence, but in the anime Gohan at least had to tell Goten to feel for Kado's Ki.

They forgot the basics. They fought like noobs. They didn't sense ki to fight. They sensed ki BEFORE the fight however. Meaning they didn't forget. It's a cheap excuse to have s Freeza Arc Reunion.

Spoiler:

Are you...fucking serious? What type of lame ass excuse is that? They can't sense ki? They can't sense Gohan being Koed. The planet is being attacked yet they are not "told" because fucking Bulma said so? What type of shitting writing bullshit is this? Fuck outta here with that. Ten can fight. But kids with SSJ and a fusion ha dance can't? Fuck no. This is the true despair isn't it. I nearly died reading this. Don't give me "they waste time", "To playful", or "Eh, they're not my favorite characters" or this and that. Fact is Krillin, Ten, and Roshi is fighting. Yet characters who can HELP aren't. You gotta be joking. If this movie going to fuck me in the ass like this then at least buy me some dinner first.

I'm hoping for a scene of them defending girlfriends or impressing chicks by kicking Freeza's men ass. But I doubt we will get that. Ugh. Jokes for me for keeping my hopes up. How can something so obvious be so easy to miss. Freeza wants Goku and Trunks DEAD. There's TWO characters who look just like them. You GOTTA be joking. You gotta be.

Vegeta talks about SSJ the Entire Namek arc. Goku is a special kid the entire story. Goku is SSJ. Predictable.

Goku surprised a magically earth filled with talking PIGS. He's a Saiyan from Vegeta Predictable.

Gohan rage the entire story. Finally he rage is let loose and kills Cell. Predict.

How hard is that? Just have a scene of Freeza seeing the two kids-Teens whatever they are and let it play itself out. But we need Ten to fight over a fusion. Why the fuck does Bulma not want them to fight? This the same woman who banged a space alien, wanted to see Freeza, travel the world AS A Kid, ask If a 4 year old Gohan can fight, let his son fight Boo, and allowed her son to fight Avocado. Now the purple headed girl don't want her little boy to fight. Bullshit. It would make sense if Chi Chi said it or something.

Aren't Goten and Trunks 12-15 around this time anyways? They have super powers. They're troublemakers. Break the rules! And you would think Majin fucking Boo would be awake to protect Satan,Videl, and Pan. But nope toss him out like Gotenks because this is Freeza Saga reunion! So creative! .

So lemme get this straight once again. There's a HIGHER THAN EVER chance that Goten or Trunks won't appear because of a stupid excuse of "Bulma said not to". I know Goten and Trunks aren't the brightest people in the world but are they that fucking stupid that they forgot how to fucking sense ki? Do they need class? It's just millions of people flying in the air. Not a bird. Not Planet Kyprtonian or whatever Super man planet is called. Because if they need glasses then I'll gladly send money to the Support Gotenks Eyes fund.

I haven't been negative a lot . Only bitched about Golden Freeza and SSJ Gohan. But this is too far. No Goten or Trunks. Not even Gotenks!? This is a dream right? Just a dream. I'm finna to wake up and see new designs for Goten.


God please! Toriyama please. Put them in the damn movie! I beg of you. It's like....WHY!?. Why? We have a Ssj Freeza. But not actual SSJ(S) that make sense? No Fusion to kill a lot more bad guys than Krillin, Ten, and Roshi can COMBINED?! I refuse to accept it. This is a major con. A major con.....


Did I just read Bulma is fighting? HER SON and Goten can't fight but she the inferior being can't? Wow OK. Very nice. Very nice.

You are just me younger (?). I would probably write a text like this if my favorite character (and one of the protagonists) isn't in a movie with this proportion. It will be really sad if Son Goten does not appear in the actual movie, come on, a fucking Muten Roshi with his power level of 139, Bulma apparently will fight... And those kids won't make their way to the movie!? THE PROTAGONISTS!? Wow...

I feel you, bro. I really do.

We needed more screen time for Roshi.

[Dayspring]

Well didn't Goten and Trunks sorta forget ki sensing when fighting Abo Cado? They didn't in the manga version of YSGAFR if that holds precedence, but in the anime Gohan at least had to tell Goten to feel for Kado's Ki.

Speaking of the manga version, who was it that had a Battle Power of 770? I know it's how he found Vegeta and co, but is there anything indicating who specifically?

From a logical standpoint, it would make the most sense if it were Kamesennin or Videl, since they're the only fighters who can't control their BP.

[Blade]

You know, with the fact that Toriyama is so deeply involved in production, and knowing how thoroughly opposed he is to overworking himself, I don't see why everyone is so surprised that he hasn't included a large roster of ensemble characters simply for the fact that it reduces the number of new character designs he has to create.

[dbzfan7]

Well didn't Goten and Trunks sorta forget ki sensing when fighting Abo Cado? They didn't in the manga version of YSGAFR if that holds precedence, but in the anime Gohan at least had to tell Goten to feel for Kado's Ki.

They forgot the basics. They fought like noobs. They didn't sense ki to fight. They sensed ki BEFORE the fight however. Meaning they didn't forget. It's a cheap excuse to have s Freeza Arc Reunion.

There was a scene where Gohan tells Goten to close his eyes and sense for Kado so he could find the real one. That sounds like forgetting to use ki sense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJA7bg0 ... e&t=23m12s

Not that I condone not bringing in Goten, Trunks, and Boo as that's just stupid.

Well didn't Goten and Trunks sorta forget ki sensing when fighting Abo Cado? They didn't in the manga version of YSGAFR if that holds precedence, but in the anime Gohan at least had to tell Goten to feel for Kado's Ki.

Speaking of the manga version, who was it that had a Battle Power of 770? I know it's how he found Vegeta and co, but is there anything indicating who specifically?

From a logical standpoint, it would make the most sense if it were Kamesennin or Videl, since they're the only fighters who can't control their BP.

I dunno. I'd have to look it up. Could just be anyone suppressed.

[Lord Beerus]

You know, with the fact that Toriyama is so deeply involved in production, and knowing how thoroughly opposed he is to overworking himself, I don't see why everyone is so surprised that he hasn't included a large roster of ensemble characters simply for the fact that it reduces the number of new character designs he has to create.

Yeah, that seems like its the case.

[Captain Space]

Spoiler:

Are you...fucking serious? What type of lame ass excuse is that? They can't sense ki? They can't sense Gohan being Koed. The planet is being attacked yet they are not "told" because fucking Bulma said so? What type of shitting writing bullshit is this? Fuck outta here with that. Ten can fight. But kids with SSJ and a fusion ha dance can't? Fuck no. This is the true despair isn't it. I nearly died reading this. Don't give me "they waste time", "To playful", or "Eh, they're not my favorite characters" or this and that. Fact is Krillin, Ten, and Roshi is fighting. Yet characters who can HELP aren't. You gotta be joking. If this movie going to fuck me in the ass like this then at least buy me some dinner first.

I'm hoping for a scene of them defending girlfriends or impressing chicks by kicking Freeza's men ass. But I doubt we will get that. Ugh. Jokes for me for keeping my hopes up. How can something so obvious be so easy to miss. Freeza wants Goku and Trunks DEAD. There's TWO characters who look just like them. You GOTTA be joking. You gotta be.

Vegeta talks about SSJ the Entire Namek arc. Goku is a special kid the entire story. Goku is SSJ. Predictable.

Goku surprised a magically earth filled with talking PIGS. He's a Saiyan from Vegeta Predictable.

Gohan rage the entire story. Finally he rage is let loose and kills Cell. Predict.

How hard is that? Just have a scene of Freeza seeing the two kids-Teens whatever they are and let it play itself out. But we need Ten to fight over a fusion. Why the fuck does Bulma not want them to fight? This the same woman who banged a space alien, wanted to see Freeza, travel the world AS A Kid, ask If a 4 year old Gohan can fight, let his son fight Boo, and allowed her son to fight Avocado. Now the purple headed girl don't want her little boy to fight. Bullshit. It would make sense if Chi Chi said it or something.

Aren't Goten and Trunks 12-15 around this time anyways? They have super powers. They're troublemakers. Break the rules! And you would think Majin fucking Boo would be awake to protect Satan,Videl, and Pan. But nope toss him out like Gotenks because this is Freeza Saga reunion! So creative! .

So lemme get this straight once again. There's a HIGHER THAN EVER chance that Goten or Trunks won't appear because of a stupid excuse of "Bulma said not to". I know Goten and Trunks aren't the brightest people in the world but are they that fucking stupid that they forgot how to fucking sense ki? Do they need class? It's just millions of people flying in the air. Not a bird. Not Planet Kyprtonian or whatever Super man planet is called. Because if they need glasses then I'll gladly send money to the Support Gotenks Eyes fund.

I haven't been negative a lot . Only bitched about Golden Freeza and SSJ Gohan. But this is too far. No Goten or Trunks. Not even Gotenks!? This is a dream right? Just a dream. I'm finna to wake up and see new designs for Goten.


God please! Toriyama please. Put them in the damn movie! I beg of you. It's like....WHY!?. Why? We have a Ssj Freeza. But not actual SSJ(S) that make sense? No Fusion to kill a lot more bad guys than Krillin, Ten, and Roshi can COMBINED?! I refuse to accept it. This is a major con. A major con.....


Did I just read Bulma is fighting? HER SON and Goten can't fight but she the inferior being can't? Wow OK. Very nice. Very nice.

You are just me younger (?). I would probably write a text like this if my favorite character (and one of the protagonists) isn't in a movie with this proportion. It will be really sad if Son Goten does not appear in the actual movie, come on, a fucking Muten Roshi with his power level of 139, Bulma apparently will fight... And those kids won't make their way to the movie!? THE PROTAGONISTS!? Wow...

I feel you, bro. I really do.

Once again, like I said last page, the "Bulma fighting" thing was a misunderstanding. Not actually a thing.

[Lord Beerus]

I'm not here for too long enough, has GMGoken already seen this news about Son Goten being out of the movie?

Are you...fucking serious? What type of lame ass excuse is that? They can't sense ki? They can't sense Gohan being Koed. The planet is being attacked yet they are not "told" because fucking Bulma said so? What type of shitting writing bullshit is this? Fuck outta here with that. Ten can fight. But kids with SSJ and a fusion ha dance can't? Fuck no. This is the true despair isn't it. I nearly died reading this. Don't give me "they waste time", "To playful", or "Eh, they're not my favorite characters" or this and that. Fact is Krillin, Ten, and Roshi is fighting. Yet characters who can HELP aren't. You gotta be joking. If this movie going to fuck me in the ass like this then at least buy me some dinner first.

I'm hoping for a scene of them defending girlfriends or impressing chicks by kicking Freeza's men ass. But I doubt we will get that. Ugh. Jokes for me for keeping my hopes up. How can something so obvious be so easy to miss. Freeza wants Goku and Trunks DEAD. There's TWO characters who look just like them. You GOTTA be joking. You gotta be.

Vegeta talks about SSJ the Entire Namek arc. Goku is a special kid the entire story. Goku is SSJ. Predictable.

Goku surprised a magically earth filled with talking PIGS. He's a Saiyan from Vegeta Predictable.

Gohan rage the entire story. Finally he rage is let loose and kills Cell. Predict.

How hard is that? Just have a scene of Freeza seeing the two kids-Teens whatever they are and let it play itself out. But we need Ten to fight over a fusion. Why the fuck does Bulma not want them to fight? This the same woman who banged a space alien, wanted to see Freeza, travel the world AS A Kid, ask If a 4 year old Gohan can fight, let his son fight Boo, and allowed her son to fight Avocado. Now the purple headed girl don't want her little boy to fight. Bullshit. It would make sense if Chi Chi said it or something.

Aren't Goten and Trunks 12-15 around this time anyways? They have super powers. They're troublemakers. Break the rules! And you would think Majin fucking Boo would be awake to protect Satan,Videl, and Pan. But nope toss him out like Gotenks because this is Freeza Saga reunion! So creative! .

So lemme get this straight once again. There's a HIGHER THAN EVER chance that Goten or Trunks won't appear because of a stupid excuse of "Bulma said not to". I know Goten and Trunks aren't the brightest people in the world but are they that fucking stupid that they forgot how to fucking sense ki? Do they need class? It's just millions of people flying in the air. Not a bird. Not Planet Kyprtonian or whatever Super man planet is called. Because if they need glasses then I'll gladly send money to the Support Gotenks Eyes fund.

I haven't been negative a lot . Only bitched about Golden Freeza and SSJ Gohan. But this is too far. No Goten or Trunks. Not even Gotenks!? This is a dream right? Just a dream. I'm finna to wake up and see new designs for Goten.


God please! Toriyama please. Put them in the damn movie! I beg of you. It's like....WHY!?. Why? We have a Ssj Freeza. But not actual SSJ(S) that make sense? No Fusion to kill a lot more bad guys than Krillin, Ten, and Roshi can COMBINED?! I refuse to accept it. This is a major con. A major con.....


Did I just read Bulma is fighting? HER SON and Goten can't fight but she the inferior being can't? Wow OK. Very nice. Very nice.

I knew TheGmGoken was gonna lose his shit, but I didn't think the rant would be this spectacular.

[Zephyr]

I don't see the point in complaining that Gohan and Bulma having Goten and Trunks stay behind while Tenshinhan and Roshi showed up.

It's not like Roshi and Ten knew Goten and Trunks were being left behind. It's not like Gohan and Bulma knew Roshi and Tenshinhan were coming. It's not like everyone got together and decided "okay Goten and Trunks need to stay, but we're bringing Roshi!"

[Kishido]

I agree with GmGoken on this one... But not because they are not in the movie but because of the explanation how Toriyama tries to let them skip this one

Instead of fooling super powered ki sensing children he could easily make another explanation which would make more sense like this one...They went with Dende to New Namek to meet the people their and have some fun in their free time

And it is really silly... Tien, Krillin and Roshi... The hope of the earth against an alien invasion.. But SS kids with a SS3 fusion should just watch the show in TV and let the earth being destroyed... cuz Bulma said so. Yup awesome... It's the same Bulma who had no problem letting her boy going against Buu... Or letting Gohan fight as kid.

Hell not even ChiChi could do such stuff as she tried more than once...

Yeah and Mr. Buu is sleeping...

[Captain Space]

It's not like Roshi and Ten knew Goten and Trunks were being left behind. It's not like Gohan and Bulma knew Roshi and Tenshinhan were coming. It's not like everyone got together and decided "okay Goten and Trunks need to stay, but we're bringing Roshi!"

This.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

You are just me younger (?). I would probably write a text like this if my favorite character (and one of the protagonists) isn't in a movie with this proportion. It will be really sad if Son Goten does not appear in the actual movie, come on, a fucking Muten Roshi with his power level of 139, Bulma apparently will fight... And those kids won't make their way to the movie!? THE PROTAGONISTS!? Wow...

I feel you, bro. I really do.

Well to be honest I would consider Bulma more of a protagonist than those two.

[dbzfan7]

It's not like Roshi and Ten knew Goten and Trunks were being left behind. It's not like Gohan and Bulma knew Roshi and Tenshinhan were coming. It's not like everyone got together and decided "okay Goten and Trunks need to stay, but we're bringing Roshi!"

This.

Gohan:
Let’s see… I think I can still become a Super Saiyan…
This time, everyone will have to to turn out in full-force if we want to win against Freeza’s 1000-strong army!
There are 55 days left, so I’ve got to do some serious training!

Gohan: Oh I guess I was wrong. We don't need everyone after all. In fact I was probably wrong about the full force thing too. I'm sure Piccolo-San can just handle them all himself.

[TheGmGoken]

I don't see the point in complaining that Gohan and Bulma having Goten and Trunks stay behind while Tenshinhan and Roshi showed up.

It's not like Roshi and Ten knew Goten and Trunks were being left behind. It's not like Gohan and Bulma knew Roshi and Tenshinhan were coming. It's not like everyone got together and decided "okay Goten and Trunks need to stay, but we're bringing Roshi!"

Who's complainng that Roshi and Ten didn't know. The reason behind them being not fighting POSSIBLY is utterly STUPID. THE tagline is Earth's Despair or Worst Wish. So in this event. Bulma leaves two fighters who can actually KICK ASS behind. Bulma is dumb as FUCK if this is in the movie. My bitching was both in and out of universe.

Once again, like I said last page, the "Bulma fighting" thing was a misunderstanding. Not actually a thing

I edited it out.

There was a scene where Gohan tells Goten to close his eyes and sense for Kado so he could find the real one. That sounds like forgetting to use ki sense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJA7bg0 ... e&t=23m12s

He alongside everyone else sensed Tarble. He didn't forget. He only forgot how to fight. Big difference. If he sensed 4 minutes earlier. He clearly didn't forget. He also did Fusion Dance which require equal ki.

[Blade]

It's not like Roshi and Ten knew Goten and Trunks were being left behind. It's not like Gohan and Bulma knew Roshi and Tenshinhan were coming. It's not like everyone got together and decided "okay Goten and Trunks need to stay, but we're bringing Roshi!"

This.

I don't see the problem, if Trunks and Goten showed up, you know that with Gotenks' arrogance, he'd go for Freeza - which given his apparent new heights of power, would put Gotenks in real danger. Roshi and Tenshinhan would never attempt to attack Freeza, they're clearly only there to deal with the rabble.

I mean, as far as excuses to write the kids out, I don't think it's too hard to stomach. In a serious situation, Gotenks' reckless personality is a liability. Against Buu, it was simply the case that he was the last hope - there wasn't anybody else.

[Lord Beerus]

I agree with GmGoken on this one... But not because they are not in the movie but because of the explanation how Toriyama tries to let them skip this one

Instead of fooling super powered ki sensing children he could easily make another explanation which would make more sense like this one...They went with Dende to New Namek to meet the people their and have some fun in their free time

And it is really silly... Tenshinhan, Krillin and Roshi... The hope of the earth against an alien invasion.. But SS kids with a SS3 fusion should just watch the show in TV and let the earth being destroyed... cuz Bulma said so. Yup awesome... It's the same Bulma who had no problem letting her boy going against Buu... Or letting Gohan fight as kid.

Hell not even ChiChi could do such stuff as she tried more than once...

Yeah and Mr. Buu is sleeping...

Toriyama did not write the RF manga. The manga is loose adaptation of the movie. Certain aspects of the movie are altered or changed for the sake of the narrative in the manga, which is only three 20-25 page chapters. Not everything that happens in the manga is gonna happen in the movie. Why can't people understand this?

[Kishido]

So if in the movie we simply won't see Goten and Trunk without explanation we just think they have died or are sleeping