Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Dyno]

For him to become so powerful so quickly after his first training session, it's really something only Toriyama could come up with!

No, Goddess Naho, actually this idea could even come up from someone who doesn't understand a thing about Dragon Ball.

[GokuRules987]

EDIT:SORRY I HAD TO REMOVE THE NEW MANGA SCANS!

[dbzfan7]

Pretty sure we're not allowed to post scans here. I think that's bootlegging.

[GokuRules987]

Pretty sure we're not allowed to post scans here. I think that's bootlegging.

wait is this considered a scan though?

[Kamiccolo9]

Pretty sure we're not allowed to post scans here. I think that's bootlegging.

wait is this considered a scan though?

You yourself called it a scan in your post.

[TheGameTagerZ]

Pretty sure we're not allowed to post scans here. I think that's bootlegging.

wait is this considered a scan though?

That's a raw manga page. Which isn't allowed.

I'm sure most saw/found the leaks already (had them 2 days before the leaks dropped in better quality). Regardless can't post that stuff here I would remove it before the #1 DBZ fan catches your post first and warns you.

[GokuRules987]

Pretty sure we're not allowed to post scans here. I think that's bootlegging.

wait is this considered a scan though?

You yourself called it a scan in your post.

Well maybe I was wrong, because i found this in dragonblogz.com at the front page cover published by MiraiTrunks so i dont think this is considered a leaked info.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

That's a raw manga page. Which isn't allowed.

I'm sure most saw/found the leaks already (had them 2 days before the leaks dropped in better quality). Regardless can't post that stuff here I would remove it before the #1 DBZ fan catches your post first and warns you.

You can post excerpts of the raw, but not the full chapter or a scanlation.

[FutureGohanSSJ2]

That's a raw manga page. Which isn't allowed.

I'm sure most saw/found the leaks already (had them 2 days before the leaks dropped in better quality). Regardless can't post that stuff here I would remove it before the #1 DBZ fan catches your post first and warns you.

You can post excerpts of the raw, but not the full chapter or a scanlation.

Which, to be honest, I think the rule is a tad faltsy, because didn't we collectively post probably a majority of the images from the first Chapter? Like, if someone was ballsy enough to go through the last 300 pages or so, they'd probably find almost all the pics because we posted a few every page or so when we had questions or tried to start-up debate topics.

[TheGameTagerZ]

That's a raw manga page. Which isn't allowed.

I'm sure most saw/found the leaks already (had them 2 days before the leaks dropped in better quality). Regardless can't post that stuff here I would remove it before the #1 DBZ fan catches your post first and warns you.

You can post excerpts of the raw, but not the full chapter or a scanlation.

Thanks for the heads up.

[Dyno]

Found Freeza's almost the whole body by Toriyama.

It looks like he still knows how to draw muscles... Then why the fuck he fucked with the Saiyans in Dragon Ball Minus?

[Lord Beerus]

Toyotaro and Ooishi Naho Give Their Impressions of The Dragon Ball Z: Revival of F Film

Talk about a lot of Vegeta involvement in the movie, Freeza revival backlash from some fans, plenty of 1 v 1 fights and more.

http://www.shonengamez.com/2015/03/19/t ... of-f-film/

Interesting...

[trunkschan90]

Some more release dates for RoF
http://www.anmtvla.com/2015/03/se-revel ... ragon.html
http://www.anmtvla.com/2015/03/dragon-b ... de_19.html

Venezuela June 26
Ecuador June 19
Mexico June 19

Also looks like the original cast will be returning

[danielsan_190196]

Thanks for the original Latin American voice cast, FOX.

Link to the post.

[Lord Beerus]

Found Freeza's almost the whole body by Toriyama.

It looks like he still knows how to draw muscles... Then why the fuck he fucked with the Saiyans in Dragon Ball Minus?

I think he made Bardock leaner in terms of muscles, to make him seem younger.

[Dyno]

Found Freeza's almost the whole body by Toriyama.

It looks like he still knows how to draw muscles... Then why the fuck he fucked with the Saiyans in Dragon Ball Minus?

I think he made Bardock leaner in terms of muscles, to make him seem younger.

And in one month, Bardock got older and bulked by performing a training as well?

[Lord Beerus]

Found Freeza's almost the whole body by Toriyama.

It looks like he still knows how to draw muscles... Then why the fuck he fucked with the Saiyans in Dragon Ball Minus?

I think he made Bardock leaner in terms of muscles, to make him seem younger.

And in one month, Bardock got older and bulked by performing a training as well?

That's the Saiyan race for ya.

Who needs steroids? Just get some Saiyan blood in you and you're good.

[Beerus-sama]

She or Whis must be the one who introduces him to ice cream. I could imagine it now
Beerus: Ah, and where is the pudding?
Bulma: Oh!... uhhh, we don't... have any right no-
Beerus: DON'T HAVE ANY? I'LL DESTROY THIS WHOLE PLANET- NO! I'LL DESTROY YOUR SOLAR SYSTEM FOR THIS!
Whis/Bulma: You should try this instead. It's way better than pudding *hands him a strawberry sundae*
Beerus: Hmph! Fine...
*after eating/tasting the sundae and enjoying it*
I like it. A lot. Your planet will survive to be destroyed another day.
/scene.

awww... I like pudding more than strawberry sundae

Also, that translation seems ehhh. Wait for Herms or SaiyaJedi to translate it, because some things could be way off, like the Revival of F manga chapter yesterday.

Of course I will wait (after reading that page its obvious those guys don't translate accurately )
But it would be cool to see a conversation with them since last time
even if it doesn't occur, I won't be dissapointed.

[Dayspring]

I don't think you guys are using the word "potential" properly here. Goku's potential strength increase was low. We see it as being very low. He then does something most Saiyans don't do (train aaaaall the frickin' time) as well as encounter magical items that increase his strength (the holy water and senzus for instant healing) and receive tutelage from actual gods. Under typical Saiyan circumstances, Goku would not have become as powerful as Radditz, whereas Vegeta would have stayed at the strength level that he was at when he first came to Earth.

What happened is that both exceeded their potentials. Repeatedly so.

Isn't potential always there, though? It just has to be fulfilled. By doing the right training, fighting, and having access to the best magical items as you said. True. But potential is always there. So, Goku didn't really exceed his potential, he just had more potential than what he had initially thought.

In a real-world setting, I'd agree. However, part of the theme is that with hard work, determination and with your friends cheering you on, you can accomplish the impossible. That's why SSJ is derived from surpassing your potential and why SSJ2 is derived from surpassing SSJ's limits. They even joke about how Rou Kaioshin's ability doesn't sound original because they repeatedly surpass their own limits. Goku is stated to have surpassed the natural limitations of what is possible for Saiyans to acquire in terms of strength while still training en route to Namek.

As for the Saiyan use of the term, it's being derived from expectations of how much one would live up to their ultimate potential. Those expectations come from assuming the Saiyan in question won't train that much and will only get stronger from natural means like biological growth and fighting. Drinking the holy water literally brought out Goku's full potential - that's its job. In other words, had Goku been a typical Saiyan, then he'd only be as strong as when he faced Piccolo Daimao by the time he was Raditz's age.

[SaiyaJedi]

Toyotaro and Ooishi Naho Give Their Impressions of The Dragon Ball Z: Revival of F Film

Talk about a lot of Vegeta involvement in the movie, Freeza revival backlash from some fans, plenty of 1 v 1 fights and more.

http://www.shonengamez.com/2015/03/19/t ... of-f-film/

I'm also translating this interview for Kanzenshuu. Here are a... few... points on their translation:*
* Note that my own translations here are part of my working translation and liable to change as I make adjustments to syntax and word choice.

• It's not "two more" people who've just seen the movie, it's just "two people".
• They skipped Naho Ooishi's first line ("My pleasure! Freeza really was the star of the show, wasn't he!") and attributed Toyotaro's second line to her.
• In Toyotaro's second line (wrongly attributed to Ooishi), the "remnants" of Freeza's forces are mistranslated as "refugees" and their translation implies that they follow him only out of fear, when it actually just says they all follow him out of fear. The bit about charisma is also messed up: the Japanese actually says "With a sort of charisma, he has an appeal like no other."
• In Ooishi's second line, what she actually says about the first appearance of Golden Freeza is, "When he becomes Golden Freeza, the way he bashfully introduces himself is nice, too. [laughs]"
• The phrasing of Toyotaro's following line is a bit mangled, but more or less gets the point across.
• Ooishi's last line on page 10 actually starts, "Freeza was born with a mutation, wasn't he." (Which we know by Toriyama's previous comments.) While Ooishi implies that Freeza is unique among his family, she doesn't actually put it that way.
• At the end of the same line, Ooishi actually says "The concept, or rather, the line of thinking, of Freeza training for the first time and suddenly getting so powerful, makes me think 'Toriyama-sensei really is amazing'!". It doesn't say that "only" Toriyama could come up with such a thing.
• In Toyotaro's cartoon on page 10, they mistranslate "revenge" as "review". Both are pronounced the same in Japanese (fukushuu), but the kanji is clearly 復讐, "revenge". In the fourth panel, Freeza actually says "It's so cramped in here, I can't stand it", and in the fifth panel, he actually says "We are completely over [the ship's] maximum capacity...".
• The commentary in Ooishi's cartoon on page 11 should say, "Fans who say 'Dragon Ball's greatest villain has definitely got to be Freeza!' must get themselves out to the movie theater! I also want you to keep your eye out for [the main characters'?] familiarity with Beerus and Whis, who have become regulars, as well as Kame-Sen'nin's active role!!"
• The question on page 11 should read, "What other scenes left an impression on you?" The interviewer doesn't say anything about "DBZ"; he/she is clearly talking about the movie they just saw.
• Ooishi's response to the above question is mucked up, perhaps because the translator is unaware of the first "Double Dragon Talk" from two years ago. What she actually says is, "Back when I gave my thoughts on DBZ: Battle of Gods, I ended up giving an impression as "somebody who loves Vegeta waaay too much".... [laughs] But Vegeta was really good this time, too...!! Although it's in a completely different way from the last movie."
• Toyotaro doesn't just parrot Ooishi's comment about Vegeta's role being in a completely different way. He says, "In a way, it's the exact opposite of the last movie, but it was whole-heartedly 'cool'." He goes on to talk not about a "greatest scene", but that "I think you could even say that, including past works [i.e., the 1990s Z films], this outing has [Vegeta's] biggest role out of all the Dragon Ball Z movies!"
• Ooishi's comment about the clothing is specifically directed at Vegeta's fighting clothes, not "their outfits".
• The interviewer's comment about liking Vegeta too much is specifically directed at Ooishi (in line with the above), not "you guys".
• In Toyotaro's message to the fans, he mentions that "The fighting style of each individual Z-Warrior is unique and fun!", not that there are "one-on-one fights" (though there are probably a few of those mixed in as well).
• Ooishi says that the conversation between Beerus and Bulma "personally really did it for me" (the word here is tsubo, which is literally a "pressure point", but means that it "hit the spot" or "tickled [her] funnybone"; not having seen the movie myself, it's difficult to know how exactly she meant it).

...OK, I'm done critiquing. I know I should just ignore it and get my own translation up, but something this off-base really rubs me the wrong way (especially because a lot more people are probably going to see this version than a proper translation).