Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Tennessaiyan]

Fusion's already been the main plot point and climax of one movie, so I would be pretty surprised if that ended up being the case again in this movie. Vegetto's pretty cool, though.

[ShadowWolf87]

Let me summarize this thread... Ignoring the stuff about Gohan/Trunks/Goten and so on..

First people bitch about Freeza becoming so strong able to fight/beat Goku with just 4 month of training... Which of course is shit

But now people just want a double team againt this bullshit of Freeza because they don't like that hero Goku will lose and ONCE Vegeta will save the day for ONCE.

If I could choose... I would even prefer a base Goten beating Freeza instead a double team of post BoG Vegeta and Goku.

It wouldn't be a true win as double team... The point against Freeza is completely different as against another foes. Freeza's whole character was shown to be afraid of Saiyans and that's why he as blown up the whole planet... The Namek saga highlight was Freeza's trauma being beaten by ONE Super Saiyan... This moves on being beaten AGAIN by ONE Super Saiyan.

And now it should take TWO way stronger Saiyan's against this Freeza... Yeah... because cry me a river... Vegeta shouldn't be the one to beat a foe... Because he is still an asshole and Goku can't be weaker than anyone... Funny is that he wouldn't care and instead would train even more for the next movie, where he would be the hero again... And that he has given a shit about Gohan being stronger as him at Cell saga, Mystic Gohan being stronger and well even Gotenks being stronger.

And let take the chance away of showing the progression of Vegeta's character even more

Vegeta beating Freeza = character progression how?

This has nothing to do with who gets to be the hero, it has everything to do with practicality. What I find funny are the people crying foul over Freeza getting that strong in that short amount of time despite heavy and intense training are the same people who want Vegeta to instantly get a massive power up the same day Freeza arrives just cuz, despite someone training at the same rate right alongside him not getting this.

And how would it not be a "true win" working together? If anything, that'd show more character progression from Vegeta than straight-up stomping Freeza would. Would show it for Goku too.

[sintzu]

But Rocket, SSJ God Gokuu is stronger than Vegetto in all his forms! Didn't you know that?

Put 2 Ssjg's together and we get an even stronger Vegetto.

[jcogginsa]

But Rocket, SSJ God Gokuu is stronger than Vegetto in all his forms! Didn't you know that?

I doubt he's stronger than SSJGod Vegetto

[FortuneSSJ]

Shueisha's done an amazing job being secretive about Vegeta. It's really driving my curiosity.
It's gotta be a big plot point, whatever it is.

Fingers crossed.

Nop. *Fingers not crossed*
Still not the right time. And we should get Gogeta instead.

Gohan will loose his Mystic Mode to Vegeta.

The only thing Gohan lost was his virginity.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Hopefully there will be no fusion. I disliked that gimmick, even though Vegetto was cool. It just didn't sit right with me.

[ss4songoku]

I agree fusion is way too cheap. It would suck the fun right out of the movie if all Goku and Vegeta had to do to kill Frieza is fuse. RF would be like 10 minutes long lol.

[Sora Saiyan]

I would love if Vegetto appeared in one movie just not in this one. He's the ultimate bad ass of DB!

[Toonami97]

Let's just get it out. Fans are IMPOSSIBLE To Satisfy

[Chuquita]

Also would prefer a team effort. No payoff with fusion, you're relying on the other guy's strengths balancing your weakness rather than overcoming them yourself.

Gogeta in a later movie is fine, but I'd rather have Gokû and Vegeta fighting as themselves.

[Kishido]

Let me summarize this thread... Ignoring the stuff about Gohan/Trunks/Goten and so on..

First people bitch about Freeza becoming so strong able to fight/beat Goku with just 4 month of training... Which of course is shit

But now people just want a double team againt this bullshit of Freeza because they don't like that hero Goku will lose and ONCE Vegeta will save the day for ONCE.

If I could choose... I would even prefer a base Goten beating Freeza instead a double team of post BoG Vegeta and Goku.

It wouldn't be a true win as double team... The point against Freeza is completely different as against another foes. Freeza's whole character was shown to be afraid of Saiyans and that's why he as blown up the whole planet... The Namek saga highlight was Freeza's trauma being beaten by ONE Super Saiyan... This moves on being beaten AGAIN by ONE Super Saiyan.

And now it should take TWO way stronger Saiyan's against this Freeza... Yeah... because cry me a river... Vegeta shouldn't be the one to beat a foe... Because he is still an asshole and Goku can't be weaker than anyone... Funny is that he wouldn't care and instead would train even more for the next movie, where he would be the hero again... And that he has given a shit about Gohan being stronger as him at Cell saga, Mystic Gohan being stronger and well even Gotenks being stronger.

And let take the chance away of showing the progression of Vegeta's character even more

Vegeta beating Freeza = character progression how?

This has nothing to do with who gets to be the hero, it has everything to do with practicality. What I find funny are the people crying foul over Freeza getting that strong in that short amount of time despite heavy and intense training are the same people who want Vegeta to instantly get a massive power up the same day Freeza arrives just cuz, despite someone training at the same rate right alongside him not getting this.

And how would it not be a "true win" working together? If anything, that'd show more character progression from Vegeta than straight-up stomping Freeza would. Would show it for Goku too.

Oh well... You seem to skippedover Vegeta's progressions at the Buu arc.

He already get over his shitty pride and get along with Goku being Numero 1. If this Vegeta will be able to beat Frieza, the foe who get humilated his whole race, father and him in the past , will be able to beat him WITHOUT SELFISH REASONS... Yeah that would be enough

And lol... You compare a Namek level Frieza with 4 month against Vegeta, who got praised by Lord Berrus himself and already hinted to be the one being the next god in the last movie...

Do nto get me wrong... In reality the whole Frieza being able to match Goku with just 4 month is shit... And if you already see it as shit... It is even less shit to see Vegeta being able to surpass Goku for once.

[Bullza]

You don't get a Naruto movie where Naruto is knocked out and Sasuke leads the final battle and destroys the villain on his own, at most you get a team-up where they both defeat it.

Well you also don't get a Naruto movie where Naruto fights the main villain at the end only for him to lose. That's what Battle of Gods did though so it's a completely different scenario here and it's definitely possible that Vegeta will win this time.

[Retan]

You don't get a Naruto movie where Naruto is knocked out and Sasuke leads the final battle and destroys the villain on his own, at most you get a team-up where they both defeat it.

Well you also don't get a Naruto movie where Naruto fights the main villain at the end only for him to lose. That's what Battle of Gods did though so it's a completely different scenario here and it's definitely possible that Vegeta will win this time.

Dragonball is also not called 'Goku' the way Naruto is called 'Naruto'.

[dbzfan7]

I'm with Gogeta. There's no reason while getting their butts kicked to not even suggest fusion. Unless working together is enough.

[GeeRod]

Naruto defeat his villains talking to them, are you serious comparing to Dragon Ball? At least Goku loses his fights punching the villain to death not using some talk-no-jutsu bullshit.

[ShadowWolf87]

Let me summarize this thread... Ignoring the stuff about Gohan/Trunks/Goten and so on..

First people bitch about Freeza becoming so strong able to fight/beat Goku with just 4 month of training... Which of course is shit

But now people just want a double team againt this bullshit of Freeza because they don't like that hero Goku will lose and ONCE Vegeta will save the day for ONCE.

If I could choose... I would even prefer a base Goten beating Freeza instead a double team of post BoG Vegeta and Goku.

It wouldn't be a true win as double team... The point against Freeza is completely different as against another foes. Freeza's whole character was shown to be afraid of Saiyans and that's why he as blown up the whole planet... The Namek saga highlight was Freeza's trauma being beaten by ONE Super Saiyan... This moves on being beaten AGAIN by ONE Super Saiyan.

And now it should take TWO way stronger Saiyan's against this Freeza... Yeah... because cry me a river... Vegeta shouldn't be the one to beat a foe... Because he is still an asshole and Goku can't be weaker than anyone... Funny is that he wouldn't care and instead would train even more for the next movie, where he would be the hero again... And that he has given a shit about Gohan being stronger as him at Cell saga, Mystic Gohan being stronger and well even Gotenks being stronger.

And let take the chance away of showing the progression of Vegeta's character even more

Vegeta beating Freeza = character progression how?

This has nothing to do with who gets to be the hero, it has everything to do with practicality. What I find funny are the people crying foul over Freeza getting that strong in that short amount of time despite heavy and intense training are the same people who want Vegeta to instantly get a massive power up the same day Freeza arrives just cuz, despite someone training at the same rate right alongside him not getting this.

And how would it not be a "true win" working together? If anything, that'd show more character progression from Vegeta than straight-up stomping Freeza would. Would show it for Goku too.

Oh well... You seem to skippedover Vegeta's progressions at the Buu arc.

He already get over his shitty pride and get along with Goku being Numero 1. If this Vegeta will be able to beat Freeza, the foe who get humilated his whole race, father and him in the past , will be able to beat him WITHOUT SELFISH REASONS... Yeah that would be enough

And lol... You compare a Namek level Freeza with 4 month against Vegeta, who got praised by Lord Berrus himself and already hinted to be the one being the next god in the last movie...

Do nto get me wrong... In reality the whole Freeza being able to match Goku with just 4 month is shit... And if you already see it as shit... It is even less shit to see Vegeta being able to surpass Goku for once.

No, it's really not.

That level of power was within Freeza's grasp the entire time, he simply never trained for it. It was hinted for a long while that he'd always had the potential to become exceptionally powerful. Beerus felt Goku's power LONG after Namek, LONG after the Kaioshin warned the people he knew had beaten Freeza about how powerful Babidi's minions were and yet they overpowered them with ease, and Beerus still felt Goku shouldn't have been able to handle Freeza as he was. Freeza was the Obscene Power Measuring Stick for a reason, man.

Nor am I "skipping over" anything. I'm going by what was shown in that preview manga. But if you really think Vegeta being a good guy means he still doesn't have pride issues, you missed quite a bit, especially in the last movie. Goku has this issue too. Something they BOTH need to overcome. (It's also why Vegeta crushed the Potara) And frankly, a lot of things I see point to them having to learn to set pride aside for the sake of survival.

Now that would be REAL character growth, not a simple "just cuz" scenario.

And FYI: The Saiyan race was already fought for and avenged. Goku did that. That would be recycling an already-resolved plot point.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Naruto defeat his villains talking to them, are you serious comparing to Dragon Ball? At least Goku loses his fights punching the villain to death not using some talk-no-jutsu bullshit.

That's not true. The only villains that Naruto took by his side through talking are Pain, Obito, and Sasuke, and this happened after he kicked their ass.

[jcogginsa]

Naruto defeat his villains talking to them, are you serious comparing to Dragon Ball? At least Goku loses his fights punching the villain to death not using some talk-no-jutsu bullshit.

That's not true. The only villains that Naruto took by his side through talking are Pain, Obito, and Sasuke, and this happened after he kicked their ass.

Usually, Naruto gets them on his side by talking to them, after kicking their asses

Goku usually does it by teaming up against a common enemy with them

[Bullza]

That's not true. The only villains that Naruto took by his side through talking are Pain, Obito, and Sasuke, and this happened after he kicked their ass.

And Gaara.

[FortuneSSJ]

Naruto defeat his villains talking to them, are you serious comparing to Dragon Ball? At least Goku loses his fights punching the villain to death not using some talk-no-jutsu bullshit.

That's not true. The only villains that Naruto took by his side through talking are Pain, Obito, and Sasuke, and this happened after he kicked their ass.

You forgot Gaara. Neji suffered the talk no jutsu too, but he wasn't a villain so I'm leaving him out.
I'm not counting with Haku and Zabuza either.

Talk no justu is just bullshit talk. People that lived years in the darkness and hating everything shouldn't change their ways, only by hearing a speech from a guy they don't even know.
But I won't drag this any longer. We're getting off topic.