Official DBZ 2015 Movie Power Discussion: "Resurrection F"

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Re: Official DBZ 2015 Movie Power Discussion: "Resurrection

Post by Bullza » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:07 pm

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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:42 pm

Bullza wrote:Beerus casual sun busting while half asleep.

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Post by ZombieVito » Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:47 am

So Gohan is seen fighting in base in the TV spot. Did they really changed their mind again? :lol:

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Post by The Monkey King » Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:59 am

This 1000 fodders thing bothers me, Piccolo and Gohan should be so superior to them that they shouldn't be able to see them, hit them or even make them flinch. Such large power gaps leadig to stomp matches is something that was established in the manga. One AoE ki blast should vaporize them all with no problem.
The bull guy does make me curious though, but Freeza finding someone who would stomp his Namek saga 100% power would be mind boggingly stupid.

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Re: Official DBZ 2015 Movie Power Discussion: "Resurrection

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:04 am

Say, does anybody remember this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzNuaG1f2cQ

Yeah. Tenshinhan vs Freeza's thugs would be like that, except shorter and more brutal. To say nothing of Krillin, Piccolo, and freaking Gohan.

Poor Gohan. I don't even like his character, but this movie is fucking him over so badly. He went from wiping the floor with Super Buu to having trouble with generic grunts around Raditz's power (or, at the very least, grunts weaker than Dodoria). He can barely even turn Super Saiyan anymore, and seems to have completely forgotten about "Ultimate". Oh how the mighty have fallen.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:15 am

Zombie wrote:So Gohan is seen fighting in base in the TV spot. Did they really changed their mind again? :lol:
I posted a comparison. He doesn't seem to have the features of his Ultimate state.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:20 am

In the next movie, we learn Gohan forgot how to fly. Meanwhile, Ultimate Goku will get a rage boost when Krillin is slapped, and become Ultimate SSJ2 Goku.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:31 am

Zombie wrote:So Gohan is seen fighting in base in the TV spot. Did they really changed their mind again? :lol:
Why jump to this type of conclusion? The scene with him going Super Saiyan has him taking off his glasses and in the recent trailer, his glasses are still on. The logical conclusion should be that whatever forces him to go Super Saiyan happens after said base form scene. Likely with him getting KO'd after both.
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Post by Low Tone G » Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:40 am

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Zombie wrote:So Gohan is seen fighting in base in the TV spot. Did they really changed their mind again? :lol:
I posted a comparison. He doesn't seem to have the features of his Ultimate state.

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What TV spot? Did we get antoher one?
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Post by Doctor. » Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:50 pm

So, is Piccolo stronger than Gohan now?

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The Monkey King wrote:This 1000 fodders thing bothers me, Piccolo and Gohan should be so superior to them that they shouldn't be able to see them, hit them or even make them flinch.
The same is for Tien, Yamcha (who isn't even there for some reason) and Krillin. It is just strange why they even need to fight. Any of them can easily destroy the whole army.
The bull guy does make me curious though, but Freeza finding someone who would stomp his Namek saga 100% power would be mind boggingly stupid.
Well, there was Yakon, who could have been stronger than Frieza. And I am pretty sure that there are mindless beasts (such as Kid Buu and Yakon) who may be stronger than Frieza, but don't have enough intelligence/will/whatever else to conquer the universe and to rule it the way Frieza did.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:37 pm

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The Monkey King wrote:This 1000 fodders thing bothers me, Piccolo and Gohan should be so superior to them that they shouldn't be able to see them, hit them or even make them flinch.
The same is for Tenshinhan, Yamcha (who isn't even there for some reason) and Krillin. It is just strange why they even need to fight. Any of them can easily destroy the whole army.
The bull guy does make me curious though, but Freeza finding someone who would stomp his Namek saga 100% power would be mind boggingly stupid.
Well, there was Yakon, who could have been stronger than Freeza. And I am pretty sure that there are mindless beasts (such as Kid Buu and Yakon) who may be stronger than Freeza, but don't have enough intelligence/will/whatever else to conquer the universe and to rule it the way Freeza did.
For all we know there could several of Freeza's soldiers who have great hidden depths. Hey, if the Z-Fighters can get strong through training, then why can't the same be applied to any of Freeza's army?

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Post by Mystic Tien » Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:39 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:In the next movie, we learn Gohan forgot how to fly. Meanwhile, Ultimate Goku will get a rage boost when Krillin is slapped, and become Ultimate SSJ2 Goku.
Heck, even Videl can fly! When your wife has a better Ki control than you, you realize that something is wrong.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Ultimate Goku will get a rage boost when Krillin is slapped, and become Ultimate SSJ2 Goku.
By the way, I don't think that Goku even cares anymore. Beerus pretty much did it with everyone, including his son. But he didn't even bother a little.
Lord Beerus wrote:For all we know there could several of Freeza's soldiers who have great hidden depths. Hey, if the Z-Fighters can get strong through training, then why can't the same be applied to any of Freeza's army?
Well, I completely agree with it, I share the same view, that villains can get stronger as well, just like Z-Fighters do.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.

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Re: Official DBZ 2015 Movie Power Discussion: "Resurrection

Post by The Monkey King » Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:53 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:For all we know there could several of Freeza's soldiers who have great hidden depths. Hey, if the Z-Fighters can get strong through training, then why can't the same be applied to any of Freeza's army?
But they're not 'uber prodiges like Freeza. It took the Z-fighters roughly 1 year to get about 6 times stronger in order to fight the saiyans.
Heck Togama boasted about Sorbet being on par with Zarbon.
If Freeza's soldiers trained they would only get a few times stronger and still get killed by Piccolo's sneeze.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:22 pm

Not really power based but

Opinions on Goku being over confident as a weakness? Seems more Vegeta than Goku

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Post by Doctor. » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:31 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Not really power based but

Opinions on Goku being over confident as a weakness? Seems more Vegeta than Goku
It seems like Goku but it has been overdone by this point. His training with Popo was to deal with the overconfidence the Choshinsui gave him. He was also overconfident against Beerus but quickly gained his humbleness back when defeated.

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:41 am

I just thought of something: Since the movie features the return of Freeza's army, and they have scouters, do you think we'll get any new confirmed power levels?
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Polyphase Avatron wrote:I just thought of something: Since the movie features the return of Freeza's army, and they have scouters, do you think we'll get any new confirmed power levels?
I'd certainly like for the humans to get some so we can finally get an idea of their strength, but the others we can guage just by the enemies they were able to fight. Except Piccolo but their scouters would probably break if they tried to calculate his.
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Polyphase Avatron wrote:I just thought of something: Since the movie features the return of Freeza's army, and they have scouters, do you think we'll get any new confirmed power levels?
God, I hope not.
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