That is how Golden Frieza should look like in the movie...Lord Beerus wrote:GOLDEN FREEZA IS COMING TO XENOVERSE IN DLC PACK 3!!!
Along with that:
- Jaco as a playable character
- A new mentor
- Five parallel quests
- Thirteen new special moves
- Gohan's sport jersey from Resurrection F as a costume
- Two new accessories from Resurrection F including Tagoma's scouter
- Three new Z Souls.
More than a tiny bit unlikely.Rocketman wrote:#18 will somehow be a damsel in distress needing Krillin to save herShadowWolf87 wrote:we have some interesting comments from Miki Itō and Mayumi Tanaka regarding Krillin's family
Well, yeah, but I don't actually think that Vegeta trained after Planet Vegeta was blown up by Frieza. And Ginyu himself may have not trained much, because we don't even know for sure if it is his real body, maybe he just stole a body of such a strong fighter, and trained a bit to adapt to it and make its power his own.bleed0range wrote: Everyone compares his strength gain to the main characters over the course of several years. But at the same time, Goku passed up several key fighters with huge power levels in just as quick a fashion (like the Ginyu Force, Dodoria, Zarbon, Vegeta, etc.). All those guys probably trained for years to be as strong as they were and they were surpassed in an instant.
Marco Polo wrote:He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
Well this kind of messes up my timeline ideas having XV and RF take place in two hugely separated forks of the timeline. Back to the drawing board until the film and DLC come out I guess.
Goten and Trunks were not mutants born with battle powers of 120,000,000. Apples and oranges.The Monkey King wrote:So if Goten and Trunks trained for 4 months (they were stronger than Freeza as kids) then Gotenks stomps Whis with ease, all you people defending Freeza's power up would be cool with it?
Yes, if we make the following assumptions:Rocketman wrote:If four months is enough to rocket him past Godku, then doing some pushups on the flight to Earth would've put him well above the early Super Saiyans.jcogginsa wrote:Probably not enough time given the surgery, time to build the cybernetics, the fact that the cybernetics would inhibit his growth, and travel timeRocketman wrote:Also you'd think Freeza would've trained before coming to Earth as Mecha Freeza...
It's both sad and funny at the same time. It really reminds and shows again how bad the current look of animated dragon ball looks.Thirded. It's why the recent trailer did nothing for me. No character stuff in that trailer at all. It saddens me. T_TGyt Kaliba wrote:Welcome to my world. I'm far more concerned with character related things, but everywhere you look - 'BUT THE POWER DISCREPANCIES'.soulnova wrote:Everyone is discussing about the feasibility of Freeza's training and I'm just sitting here wondering if we are going to have pregnant Bulma at the end of the movie.
He actually needs to survive, for the idea of bringing him back does not turn out to be even more pointless and stupid.SSJGFrieza wrote:Freeza coming back already pissed some people off, imagine if he survives
Well, both Roshi and Grandpa Gohan couldn't fly, and they were still the strongest people on Earth. So having an ability to fly has nothing to do with power level or amount of ki.The Monkey King wrote: Heck Goten and Trunks didn't know any techniques and Goten couldn't even fly.
They aren't. They required training and sparring to be somewhere close to Frieza, we don't even know for certain if they are, because all the evidence comes from their fighting with Android 18, but she could not even bother using her full strength against some human (as she thought he was). And no, there is no talk about Frieza beating Whis, we are not even sure if he is stronger or even equal to Beerus, we just don't know as for now.The Monkey King wrote:Goten and Trunks are bigger prodiges than Freeza if they trained seriously for 4 months surely you'd be fine with Gotenks stomping Whis and Beerus with ease.
Marco Polo wrote:He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
And fourth'd. As for myself, however, I'm kinda glad the trailers have stopped showing new material. The super-long English dub preview of BOG ruined a whole scene for me, so I'm going to stay away from any more trailers/previews. Although I do want to know how things end up in the movie's ending.Chuquita wrote:Thirded. It's why the recent trailer did nothing for me. No character stuff in that trailer at all. It saddens me. T_TGyt Kaliba wrote:Welcome to my world. I'm far more concerned with character related things, but everywhere you look - 'BUT THE POWER DISCREPANCIES'.soulnova wrote:Everyone is discussing about the feasibility of Freeza's training and I'm just sitting here wondering if we are going to have pregnant Bulma at the end of the movie.
Getting all the character stuff in BOG was so much fun. If it wasn't for Toriyama and Torishima I'd fear the whole movie would be battle battle battle power levels scouters explode maximum.
I want to see character stuff so badly! I want Vegeta and Bulma family time stuff. I want to see Gokû mess with Vegeta! I want more Beerus cat like antics.
mogi67 wrote:I kind of view Dragon Ball the same way I view mythology. It can be convoluted, contradictory, but always a treasure.
Well, I am fully for it. It would be just stupid if they kill him in the end.SSJGFrieza wrote:Freeza coming back already pissed some people off, imagine if he survives
Marco Polo wrote:He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
MasterVampire wrote:Freeza was a very evil villain.
Killing lots of innocent people and children too.
Lord Beerus wrote:Jaco as a playable character
Marco Polo wrote:He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
Freeza was skeptical about the SSJ legend and that was a few thousand years ago. Buu is 5 million years old but he takes that legend seriously and even knows how strong he was? If Freeza was warned by King Cold not to mess with Majin Buu then why not train for a few months to guarantee that this mysterious Majin Buu could never pose a threat to him?ShadowWolf87 wrote:The basic idea being that Majin Buu was of legendary power considering he rampaged across the entire universe before being sealed away on some then-nameless rock. It's quite possible that he could devise an approximation of that level of power from tales he may have heard.
This also poses the same problem as his knowledge of Buu's existence. Beerus wasn't emotionally attached to Freeza so Beerus could kill him at any time if he felt like it. If Beerus sleeps for years at a time and all it would've taken is a few months to reach his power then Freeza would've done that.Also: Beerus mentioned Freeza in the last movie, the two have apparently interacted. It's not like that comes out of nowhere.
Broly never trained in his life but was stronger than a FPSSJ when he broke free of his restraints and transformed as an adult. Freeza is most likely hundreds of years old while Broly was only 30 at the time. He had less time for his power to grow naturally and he was still many time stronger than Freeza. Broly is a Saiyan prodigy and even more impressive prodigy than Freeza but I would still call it bad writing if he became SSJ God tier with just a few months of training. If you go to the Fan-Created Works Section overpowered OCs are criticized all the time for getting too powerful too fast. In DBM, Broly's power slowly increased over the span of a few decades until he was in the same leagues as Vegetto. In DBM, Gast is a Namek who is made up of over 100 Nameks and is SSJ1 to SSJ2 Vegetto tier after many years of training. Rigor is another prodigy Saiyan who after many decades of training was slightly stronger than SSJ4 Gogeta. Ize is Freeza's son in Young Jiji's AF and he's apparently SSJ4 tier. Some of these I don't agree with and some I think could work but the point is these characters and many other OCs are heavily criticized for outdoing the canon characters when it comes to training. Freeza going from 120 million to SSJ God tier in four months is even more farfetched than anything ever seen in any above average fan comics. Something that crazy is only found in the "backpages" of fanfiction.net. The kind of fanfic that you would never recommend or even finish the first chapter. I really hope there's more to Freeza's power-up than him just being a great prodigy and it involves some outside help like SSJ God did.Zephyr wrote:Goten and Trunks were not mutants born with battle powers of 120,000,000. Apples and oranges.
GokuRules987 wrote:Yes but how are you going to possibly prove that? We need feats not speculating opinions to assume that base goku no longer needs to transform.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... -toriyama/Will Goku be able to transform into [Super Saiyan] God in the future?
I think you’ll understand if you watch [the movie], but Goku has already absorbed [Super Saiyan] God’s power and made it his own, so there is no need for him to transform into [Super Saiyan] God. Goku basically only thinks of fighting as a sporting match, so borrowing the power of five people isn’t fair, and he resisted doing that; however, it seems his curiosity towards the realm that lay even further beyond him won out.
Marco Polo wrote:He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
Yeah, I know that. But I still find very strange that apparently Frieza met Beerus... and stayed alive. Just doesn't seem realistic for me, judging by how both of these characters were portrayed. Frieza is extremly arrogant and boastful, and Beerus is as well extremely arrogant, and he is very easily annoyed. So knowing Frieza's personality I find it very strange that he actually survived his meeting with Beerus.ShadowWolf87 wrote: The basic idea being that Majin Buu was of legendary power considering he rampaged across the entire universe before being sealed away on some then-nameless rock. It's quite possible that he could devise an approximation of that level of power from tales he may have heard.
But we're assuming the manga dialogue is complete and not truncated, which it undoubtedly is.
Also: Beerus mentioned Freeza in the last movie, the two have apparently interacted. It's not like that comes out of nowhere.
Marco Polo wrote:He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
I admit, I had a bit of an issue with this at first too, cuz I just couldn't imagine Freeza not managing to piss off Beerus. But if the dialogue from the manga about Freeza being warned by his father not to irritate the cat god holds true in the film proper, that covers that base more or less.Mystic Tien wrote:Yeah, I know that. But I still find very strange that apparently Freeza met Beerus... and stayed alive. Just doesn't seem realistic for me, judging by how both of these characters were portrayed. Freeza is extremly arrogant and boastful, and Beerus is as well extremely arrogant, and he is very easily annoyed. So knowing Freeza's personality I find it very strange that he actually survived his meeting with Beerus.
I could imagine Freeza being faux polite and sucking up to him and then seething after Beerus leaves and ranting about how much he hates him.Gyt Kaliba wrote:I admit, I had a bit of an issue with this at first too, cuz I just couldn't imagine Freeza not managing to piss off Beerus. But if the dialogue from the manga about Freeza being warned by his father not to irritate the cat god holds true in the film proper, that covers that base more or less.Mystic Tenshinhan wrote:Yeah, I know that. But I still find very strange that apparently Freeza met Beerus... and stayed alive. Just doesn't seem realistic for me, judging by how both of these characters were portrayed. Freeza is extremly arrogant and boastful, and Beerus is as well extremely arrogant, and he is very easily annoyed. So knowing Freeza's personality I find it very strange that he actually survived his meeting with Beerus.
