What phrases/opinions/things bring out your irate fanboy?

[UpFromTheSkies]

I do have a personal connection with Dragon Ball, I love it, and have enjoyed it immensely throughout the years, but I can't think of anything that would make me irate about it. I just don't take it seriously enough, and I don't think it's meant to be taken that seriously. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If someone doesn't like the series, or disagrees with me about it, it's whatever... I might voice my opinion, but I'm not going to become irate.

[Kakacarrottop]

People who blame Ocean for everything in the dub of the first 53 episodes, despite the fact it was all FUNi's fault for the terrible scripts, censorship and miscasting

People who write off all Ocean dub music as "crappy recycled Megaman music"

People who think Bruce Faulconer is a beethoven who composed every bit of music to come out of the franchise

The hypocrisy of those who attack the 'inappropriate' female Freeza voice in the dub, the same people who have no issue with a masculine looking character in Goku being voiced by an elderly female in the original JPN

People who refuse to acknowledge the Japanese version has any flaws

People on Youtube who nitpick every bad line, bit of censorship and poor acting from the Ocean dub, while ignoring all of FUNi's terrible acting and lines

People who dismiss all English Goku voices as "generic Supermans"

People who only dislike GT because everyone else does

People who actually think TFS is funny and the best version of the series

[fadeddreams5]

You get annoyed cause people find TFS funny? O_o

[Kamiccolo9]

People who "don't care" about the Yamamoto scandal, and would rather that he be allowed to continue in his endeavors to be plagiarist slime so that his "work" could be used to enhance the experience of a cartoon.

This applies, of course, to those who are aware of the scandal, and continue to be indifferent regardless.

[Rozay]

I get annoyed when people say Broly sucks because he's simple. So what? Broly's not meant to be complicated, especially because he's only a villain movie. To many people, myself included, Broly embodies what the real legendary Super Saiyajin is supposed to be, which is a machine of mindless destruction, corrupted by his own power. That's all it takes to get me invested in him.

I guess I'm too simple? I try not to be annoying about me liking Broly because I know how annoying superfans can be, but the other side of the spectrum also annoys me, superhaters who bash the character every chance they get, or refuse to say his name on some childish shit. It does irk me a little, I mean, as much as something about an animated series can annoy me, which is not much overall.

[Kamiccolo9]

In addition to the above post, the people who claim to hate Broly solely because of his fanbase. That's stupid.

[ZazamPow]

People who watched the Z dub on Toonami when they were 10 and think that makes them experts on the franchise. I'm a dub guy through and through, but I can acknowledge that the original dub had, err... flaws, it spread a lot of misinformation and nowadays a lot of people have a skewed view of the series. I get angry when people act like Dragon Ball has a bad story and say Toriyama is a bad writer, and that the only good thing about the show is the fight scenes.

For instance, there was a thread on Comic Vine discussing who is a better martial artist, Goku or Batman. My argument was that Goku is far and above the better martial artist, as the things he has been able to accomplish through focused martial arts training and the techniques he utilizes are objectively more fantastic than Batman's more grounded martial arts, hence Goku's skills are more advanced. Unlike Superman or Thor, Goku is not naturally strong, his power comes from focused martial arts training, and therefore he'd be more in league with characters like Karate Kid rather than Batman.

Other people disagreed of course, but rather than respond to my points, their rebuttals were basically saying that explosions and energy beams is not martial arts. I countered with an explanation that Dragon Ball fights are not simply explosions and energy beams, and their counter was that I was wrong, and that Goku doesn't practice martial arts, when he gets stronger he just does sit-ups in 100 times gravity. Of course this person never watched Dragon Ball, never read the manga, and has no experience with the Japanese version, they just watched Z on Toonami when they were 10, so they couldn't fully appreciate the unique martial arts styles of the Dragon Ball series, all they saw was heavy metal music and laser beams and maximum power.

So basically misinterpreting the series based off the inaccurate dub, even though I myself vastly prefer the dub.

[ShadowDude112]

"The English dub is the best. I need my super hero dialogue and my synthesized music for DBZ to be good."
"His name is Bills. Beerus is wrong."
That second one gets me. The first one is just strange. Because like, One Piece was like the DBZ dub and fans hated it and threw a fit. It's like, if it's DBZ, that's okay. But no other anime can be changed.

[ZazamPow]

That's another one, people who take TFS WAYY too seriously.

[Kakacarrottop]

people who take TFS WAYY too seriously.

I don't take it seriously, i just find it lame and unfunny

[Theophrastus]

"The English dub is the best. I need my super hero dialogue and my synthesized music for DBZ to be good."
"His name is Bills. Beerus is wrong."
That second one gets me. The first one is just strange. Because like, One Piece was like the DBZ dub and fans hated it and threw a fit. It's like, if it's DBZ, that's okay. But no other anime can be changed.

The people saying Funi's original DBZ dub is the best, and the people who despise 4Kids' One Piece dub, probably aren't the same people for the most part.

There are also people who hate the Funimation One Piece voices and insist that the 4Kids pirate rap is the best OP for the series and nothing else compares. I'd hazard a guess that these are the ones with the most in common with English DBZ dub super-fans.

[sintzu]

We shouldn't be getting any new stories.

Toriyama doesn't know how to write DB anymore.

Kai is an incomplete version of Z.

[ZazamPow]

people who take TFS WAYY too seriously.

I don't take it seriously, i just find it lame and unfunny

What I meant was take it too seriously, as in those fans who take it in place of the actual series and base their opinions on the story and characters on the parody. Most notably, the "Goku is a bad father" thing went from a silly joke, to something people actually take seriously and knock the character about, despite it not actually being true.

[ShaneisMC]

People who "don't care" about the Yamamoto scandal, and would rather that he be allowed to continue in his endeavors to be plagiarist slime so that his "work" could be used to enhance the experience of a cartoon.

This applies, of course, to those who are aware of the scandal, and continue to be indifferent regardless.

Personally I just find that whole situation extremely unfortunate. I really enjoy the "yamamoto" score and made sure i got Kai in Parts just because of it. That being said of course what he was doing was wrong and he shouldnt get away with it at all..... however again that being said i find it unfortunate again because I mean hasnt he been stealing stuff for a reaaalllly long time? Couldnt have waited to bust him until after Kai was finished? The timing screwed up a lot of stuff as far as Kai goes. Must have been REALLY weird for the Japanese especially let alone us. I seriously dont get that one. Kai 1.0 is 98 episodes and they bust him with THREE episodes left to go in japan? ....... Seriously?? Ugh. He should have just been "caught" a long time ago, but this far into a major project I just dont see why they had to get him when they did.

[Theophrastus]

Most notably, the "Goku is a bad father" thing went from a silly joke, to something people actually take seriously and knock the character about, despite it not actually being true.

In fairness, you can't really blame people for jumping on the whole "Goku's a bad/deadbeat dad" thing when you've got Toriyama coming out in interviews and saying stuff like this:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... -super-qa/

Since Saiyans are supposed to have no affection for family or friends, does this actually make Vegeta, who holds his family and wife dear, an even stranger (kinder) Saiyan than Goku?

Vegeta, whose pride had been deeply wounded, sought help from Bulma, and little by little, his ruthless personality changed. Nowadays, you certainly might be able to say that. On the other hand, Goku might not have a sense of family members like Gohan and Chi-Chi except as one of his companions.

According to Toriyama's modern vision of the character, Goku sees no substantial difference between Gohan and Krillin or Chi-Chi and Bulma. He feels no real familial connection, and as such he has no qualms just up and leaving for years at a time to go do whatever.

It kind of stops being a silly joke when Toriyama is reinforcing the idea (possible contradictions with the original work be damned).

[baneofdemon22]

Saying that the English dub is far superior to the original and being completely disrespectful to the source material.

The Demonetization of Toriyama- I'm just sick of self-entitled fans.

Referring to Toriyama as sucking his character's (mainly Goku)...blah blah...and just all the vulgarity over an innocent cartoon. I don't understand how anyone can think that's appropriate, yet people constantly do it here.

[Beerus-sama]

"His name is Bills. Beerus is wrong."

I called him Bills (ugh...) for some time until I got more understanding of what "bills" in english were.
Now its just weird and sad seeing people still use the term as his name.

[Dyno]

"His name is Bills. Beerus is wrong."

You actually created that. No one ever stated that, it is the opposite: "His name is Beerus. Bills is wrong".

No, "Bills" is not wrong as long as there are official dubs using it.

[Ajay]

No, "Bills" is not wrong as long as there are official dubs using it.

'Official dubs' also called Goku 'Zero' and Karin 'Whiskers the Wonder Cat'. Something being official does not validate it. Just look at FUNi's Z dub! Christ, if that was right because it was official, I'd throw myself off a building.

Kanzenshuu actually has a good article on it - http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/02/11/na ... on-beerus/

It's a terrible romanisation that makes no sense, ignores the pun, and buys into a popularised name that was never right in the first place.

That said, I don't really care if you use it because that's what it is in your country. Just don't pretend it's somehow valid.

[Dyno]

Yeah, I don't really care about how english speakers call him, english dub is not/should not/must not be the predominant one, even more when they altered almost 100% of the dialogues in the Dragon Ball franchise for no reason at all. If the actual translation for you is "Beerus", that's okay, no problem. But it's not for the entire world and "Bills" whether you like it or not, it's not wrong.