What phrases/opinions/things bring out your irate fanboy?

[Eire]

After a long training I managed to put irate part of my internal fangirl to sleep and I really try not to awake it. I know that may seem silly, but I don't like to participate in bringing negative emotions when I don't have to. Truefan discussions (luckily rare here) and strawman antagonists that according to some users just wait to destroy fandom from the inside are for me really unnecessarily.

I really feel uncomfortable when I see aother forms of antagonism, especially when praise of one thing must come with trashing another (and it's fans alike). It surfaces in discussion about musical scores, dubs and VAs. From some reason people can't say that they find something better in polite way, listing pros and cons. Even worse- they can't admit that they may like something despite it's flaws.

BTW how it come that nobody called me out of using French dub names form time to time?

[Ajay]

But it's not for the entire world and "Bills" whether you like it or not, it's not wrong.

Are you going to read that article or are you going to be absolutely defiant in deciding that Bills is right?

[Dyno]

I have already read when it came out, again, good solely for english speakers. English speakers... I'm not one. And I'm from a region that doesn't use "Beerus".

[Beerus-sama]

Yeah, I don't really care about how english speakers call him, english dub is not/should not/must not be the predominant one, even more when they altered almost 100% of the dialogues in the Dragon Ball franchise for no reason at all. If the actual translation for you is "Beerus", that's okay, no problem. But it's not for the entire world and "Bills" whether you like it or not, it's not wrong.

Its not about english dub being the predominant, people were calling him "Beerus" before the english BoG came to life.
Its because "Beerus" stay more true to both puns that ビルス(Birusu) was meant of.
Toriyama thought it was for "beers" while Watanabe meant the other way to call a virus in japanese.
"Beers-virus"

also, if this continues we should create a thread about this...

[Kamiccolo9]

I have already read when it came out, again, good solely for english speakers. English speakers... I'm not one. And I'm from a region that doesn't use "Beerus".

Good for you. Your region is wrong.

[Dyno]

also, if this continues we should create a thread about this...

Agreed. But there's no need/point for this. "Bills", as I said is not wrong, me and many others from many other countries will continue to use that spelling as you and english speakers will continue to use "Beerus", and both sides will learn how to deal with each other, whether liking or not.

Let's end this thread here.

[Beerus-sama]

also, if this continues we should create a thread about this...

Agreed. But there's no need/point for this. "Bills", as I said is not wrong, me and many others from many other countries will continue to use that spelling as you and english speakers will continue to use "Beerus", and both sides will learn how to deal with each other, whether liking or not.

Let's end this thread here.

Its wrong for me since bills is related to money, and he is not about that, not even the pun is about that... I can't take it as a name since it is not a name... (doesn't even sounds good).

Also you meant the discussion (I wont continue if theres nothing more I can add, so hopefully this will be my last post about it)

[gohann]

"You're not a TRUE fan if you so much as praise the dub!"
"Kai is for babies/little kids!"

[ekrolo2]

Every single statement that ridiculously overestimates Broly's power eeeevvvveerrrrr. Can't tell ya how many times I almost groaned to death after reading dumb shit like "Goku needs to go Super Saiyan God just to hold Broly off!" or some variation on that with basically any character that gets put up in a VS against him.

For a special mention, every single You Tube comments section on a Kai dub video.

[Dyno]

Every single statement that ridiculously overestimates Broly's power eeeevvvveerrrrr. Can't tell ya how many times I almost groaned to death after reading dumb shit like "Goku needs to go Super Saiyan God just to hold Broly off!" or some variation on that with basically any character that gets put up in a VS against him.

Or when people try to protect it by saying "so what? he needs to be mindless destruction" and whatever even when there's no such line in the manga, that's, if I recall right, is a english-dub thing.

[Kamiccolo9]

Every single statement that ridiculously overestimates Broly's power eeeevvvveerrrrr. Can't tell ya how many times I almost groaned to death after reading dumb shit like "Goku needs to go Super Saiyan God just to hold Broly off!" or some variation on that with basically any character that gets put up in a VS against him.

Or when people try to protect it by saying "so what? he needs to be mindless destruction" and whatever even when there's no such line in the manga, that's, if I recall right, is a english-dub thing.

Broly's a movie villain, not a manga one.

[ekrolo2]

[quote="Dyno"

Or when people try to protect it by saying "so what? he needs to be mindless destruction" and whatever even when there's no such line in the manga, that's, if I recall right, is a english-dub thing.

Broly's a movie villain, not a manga one.[/quote]

Its not even a good argument, Kid Buu was a mindless being of pure destruction too and that does little to change the fact that Gotenks and Gohan would've kicked his ass no problem if they were brought into that fight. Same thing would happen to Broly if he fought anyone stronger than Buu Saga SSJ2 Goku & Vegeta.

[Dbzfan94]

"You're not a TRUE fan if you so much as praise the dub!"

This. All these type of comments really tick me off. They reek of pompous superiority.

"If you prefer the dub and/or the Faulconer score even a little bit over the Japanese, you're not a fan of Dragon Ball!"
"The dub is a completely different show!"

Now this can be vice-versa too. Anyone who really attacks other people for liking an anime in a different language.

And then off of those sort of toxic comments

"Broly's power is maximum he can beat Whis!"
"Broly is the best character in the series!"
"Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu."

[Kakacarrottop]

"You're not a TRUE fan if you so much as praise the dub!"

"You're a weaboo if you don't praise the dub!"

[voltlunok]

Things that bug or drive me nuts? Oh that list is long but I honestly believe that the biggest thing that bugs me is the mob mentality these days. If you don't like this, this, this, that, this and that, while hating this, that, this and that. Then you can't be a true member of the Dragon Ball "True Fan" Club and that mentality has kinda been on the raise these days and it BUGS THE HECK OUTTA ME! I think it's kinda disgusting that some people pretty much have to hide their enjoyment of some things in this franchise for fear of being shunned or seen as a stupid person. I think to sum up my issue, Elitist "true fans" bug the hell out of me and I wish they would just go away.

[Quebaz]

Agreed. But there's no need/point for this. "Bills", as I said is not wrong, me and many others from many other countries will continue to use that spelling as you and english speakers will continue to use "Beerus", and both sides will learn how to deal with each other, whether liking or not.

Let's end this thread here.

But it is wrong, that's why people are calling you out. Just because 5 International dubs around the world used that term doesn't make it any less wrong, just like back in the Z era most dubs had a few names/scripts/whatever mistranslated, yes it's an official production, but it's not the original one and it's not the correct one. If you actually read the article like you said you did, you would realize that Beerus (or Beers if you're Toei) is the only correct way to spell the name of the guy. Unless you think Goku is fighting against his hospital bills, but hey, fanfics do exist.

On-topic:
People dismissing Kikuchi's soundtrack as "dated" and not "DEE BEE ZEE" enough.

[jcogginsa]

Agreed. But there's no need/point for this. "Bills", as I said is not wrong, me and many others from many other countries will continue to use that spelling as you and english speakers will continue to use "Beerus", and both sides will learn how to deal with each other, whether liking or not.

Let's end this thread here.

But it is wrong, that's why people are calling you out. Just because 5 International dubs around the world used that term doesn't make it any less wrong, just like back in the Z era most dubs had a few names/scripts/whatever mistranslated, yes it's an official production, but it's not the original one and it's not the correct one. If you actually read the article like you said you did, you would realize that Beerus (or Beers if you're Toei) is the only correct way to spell the name of the guy. Unless you think Goku is fighting against his hospital bills, but hey, fanfics do exist.

On-topic:
People dismissing Kikuchi's soundtrack as "dated" and not "DEE BEE ZEE" enough.

No. The article clearly states that Bills is an acceptable spelling of the name, But that Beerus and Beers are superior as they preserve the name puns whereas Bills does not.

[Lord Beerus]

We shouldn't be getting any new stories.

Toriyama doesn't know how to write DB anymore.

Those two points actually annoy me quite a bit. People have been desperate for new Dragon Ball material, and when they get it, they nitpick it to hell and back.

[Dyno]

But it is wrong, that's why people are calling you out. Just because 5 International dubs around the world used that term doesn't make it any less wrong, just like back in the Z era most dubs had a few names/scripts/whatever mistranslated, yes it's an official production, but it's not the original one and it's not the correct one. If you actually read the article like you said you did, you would realize that Beerus (or Beers if you're Toei) is the only correct way to spell the name of the guy. Unless you think Goku is fighting against his hospital bills, but hey, fanfics do exist.

Not only this:

No. The article clearly states that Bills is an acceptable spelling of the name, But that Beerus and Beers are superior as they preserve the name puns whereas Bills does not.

As here we don't have "bills" word in the vocabulary, not even it means something related to money. So we don't have any problem calling him by "Bills". It could even be "Beerus" here, it would cause the same "effect", it is a mere name.

EDIT: Found this -

"Bills" is an actual, real, everyday, could-be-and-is-possibly-used English word. I'm not going to filter it.

[johnboy1]

Whenever one fan looks down on another for his opinions, it pisses me right the Hell off. Who the fuck made you the arbitrator of how I should enjoy my stuff? Oh, you think I'm a simpleton because I prefer Faulconer to Kikuchi? Well, you can take that utterly baseless condescension of yours and shove it firmly up your ass. I am the sole arbitrator of what my own opinions are, and I brook zero goddamn argument on the matter, understood?

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Err, sorry for the mini-rant.