Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Cold Skin]

I think I'm just gonna follow the 2ch thread on and off this evening. More stuff appeared since I checked in before. They're still talking about GT (ssj4 vs ssjg) and about key animators.

Even Xenoverse avoids the subject of comparing GT characters/forms with BOG characters/forms.
No clear comment is made when Beerus faces a Super Saiyan 4, the dialogue just implies both ends are curious about what that peculiar encounter.
They play it safe and they're right, not to frustrate any "side" among the fans.

For now, there's truly no real way to know if both coexist in the same story or not (every fan will have their opinion about GT happening or not) and if they do share a same continuity, there's no real way to know which one would be more powerful. Although to me, it seems that the word "GOD" implies superiority to any possible number like "4".

[ssjjanemba]

Is there anyone also rooting for Freeza to win? Seeing the good guys win all the time kinda gets boring.

[Mystic Tien]

They're still talking about GT (ssj4 vs ssjg)

If you find anything interesting, please send me a private message. I would like to know their comments about it, I keep wonder which form is stronger until nowadays.

Me as well, by the way. It may be interesting.

Is there anyone also rooting for Freeza to win? Seeing the good guys win all the time kinda gets boring.

Me

I always root for enemies To see Frieza returning for once, and succeeding would be nice. Besides we finally have some main villain against another main villain fight (I mean Vegeta), so realistically enough, for whoever you root, both of them are/were main villains in the past, it also helps that they knew each other as well. So in a fight of one villain against the other villain, I choose the more evil villain

[The Monkey King]

Wooow, so the three newest transformations we get are all lazy DBAFesue recolours made by fans over 10 years ago. Bravo Toriyama

[Kamiccolo9]

Why are we talking about "true" time travel?

Because Whis mentions it in F prologue manga and implies he can manipulate the very same timeline

I get that.

Why are we saying that violates "real" time travel "rules?" Real time travel isn't a thing. Toriyama could say that every time someone travels through time bunnies fly out of the sun and populate the moon for a fortnight in a special time known as "The Hutching," and it wouldn't violate anything.

[Chuquita]

Re: ssj4 vs ssjg

They've been talking about it for a while, anything of note comes up I'll send it along.

Re: XV

2ch's definitely not avoiding it. My translation skills aren't that strong, but those posting seem pretty adamant about debating it.

Practically every major update has come from the 2ch F threads in Japan. The fact that no one's mentioned it all day makes me think (hope) that it's fake.

Wouldn't the lightning on the F poster be blue for both of them if there was a blue power-up coming?

It looks like it might be from somewhere outside Japan and thank god for that.

Yeah and seeing how it's only for Vegeta indicates that it's his form.

It doesn't mesh with Toriyama's "no more flashy transformations for saiyajin" thing also.

2ch saying nothing about it feels like a good indicator.

I wish I still had the url to the website that makes those keychains to the line that image is from. I did have it at one point. I could've used it to compare all the ssj figures they currently sell.

[sintzu]

Wooow, so the three newest transformations we get are all lazy DBAFesue recolours made by fans over 10 years ago. Bravo Toriyama

No one on the Japanese sites are talking about this so it looks like it's a fake pic from somewhere outside Japan.

[ShadowWolf87]

Well, I don't think it was actually that special for saiyans. Raditz was also using ki blasts, and he was a low-class one, I think it is fairly common for saiyans to use Ki blasts.

Ki blasts themselves don't seem to be, but a blast that can be charged by the user appears to be very unusual. Raditz and Vegeta were both stunned Goku knew something like the Kamehameha.

But Krillin and Yamcha, and Tenshinhan (just seeing it once!) learned it almost immediately, I don't actually think it is something special. Raditz and Vegeta were most likely surprised to see a guy like Goku using any strong attacks at all, he was supposed to be very weak, so his ki blasts should have been as well. I just don't see Kamehameha being special like Special Beam Cannon for example.

I seem to recall panels and partial scans being permissible for the sake of citing sources, so I'll offer up this.



It seems he's less shocked at the ability to utilize a ki blast and more that he's impressed at the fact that he's able to charge his ki up into that single point and release it. Seems that's not viewed as "normal" among the Saiyans to me.

[The Monkey King]

People are so ungrateful. We actually get a new dragon ball chapter from Akira, and all people do is attack and criticize him.

Fans don't have to be greatful to recieve Trash just because it's from Toriyama.
DB- was awful and inferior to Father of Goku in every way.

[Cold Skin]

But Heroes did imply a new transformation that would be just about the head changing, for example the hair.
Hmm, the situation makes me curious to have a definitive answer.

[Basaku]

Why are we saying that violates "real" time travel "rules?" Real time travel isn't a thing. Toriyama could say that every time someone travels through time bunnies fly out of the sun and populate the moon for a fortnight in a special time known as "The Hutching," and it wouldn't violate anything.

He can write in bunnies and green pigs moving into Bulma's house. But he can't just "write out" logic from storytelling

[FortuneSSJ]

Is there anyone also rooting for Freeza to win? Seeing the good guys win all the time kinda gets boring.

They lost in BOG.
And by Freeza voice actor: Freeza loses the battle, but wins the war. Whatever that means, you have to wait.

[Sandubadear]

What Whis has is not Time Travel, it is Time Rewind

[Kamiccolo9]

Why are we saying that violates "real" time travel "rules?" Real time travel isn't a thing. Toriyama could say that every time someone travels through time bunnies fly out of the sun and populate the moon for a fortnight in a special time known as "The Hutching," and it wouldn't violate anything.

He can't write in bunnies and green pigs moving into Bulma's house. But he can't just "write out" logic from storytelling

Time travel "logic" isn't a thing, because time travel isn't a thing. The rules are whatever the author using it decides it to be.

[SonsOfUlron21]

Wooow, so the three newest transformations we get are all lazy DBAFesue recolours made by fans over 10 years ago. Bravo Toriyama

No one on the Japanese sites are talking about this so it looks like it's a fake pic from somewhere outside Japan.

Oh thank super Saiyan God it's fake I don't like blue very much maybe on vegeta but Goku already had ssjG.

[White Oni]

Hilbert's hotel paradox? Hardly comparble, it's not illogical while the grandfather paradox is and that's the source of all the problems when writers attempt to use it

Hilbert's hotel has yet to be answered to, correctly, IMHO.

There's also infinite traveler's paradox, which is as hilarious as is it is problematic for anyone trying to rationalize trunks's "time travel".

There are problems for multiverse jumpers, just like there are for time jumpers, it just happens to be the case that most people don't know about them. Soon, people will see how silly multiverse jumpin is, as they se time jumping now, and people will look back and laugh at what people now call "brilliant writing"...

[Dyno]

Fans don't have to be greatful to recieve Trash just because it's from Toriyama.
DB- was awful and inferior to Father of Goku in every way.

Amazing words!

[Chuquita]

Bandai UDM the Best is the name of the keychain line either mimicked or pictured in the photo. I'm still trying to find the website.

[Cold Skin]

At that time of the day, nobody in Japan has seen the movie yet, am I wrong?
So it would be normal that people don't talk about any new transformation, right?

[ssjjanemba]

Is there anyone also rooting for Freeza to win? Seeing the good guys win all the time kinda gets boring.

They lost in BOG.
And by Freeza voice actor: Freeza loses the battle, but wins the war. Whatever that means, you have to wait.

Lol i forgot about that.