Time Travel Madness made simple

SpiritBomb · Post by **SpiritBomb** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:31 am

I have an important time travel question that is not off-topic! YAY!

Alright, I just wanna know if after defeating Cell and the Androids in the past, do all the people who died cause of them come back in Future Trunk's time line? Because when he went back everything was as he had left it.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:16 am

Nothing he did in the past, save for becoming stronger, had any effect on the future so, no. Those who died in his time are dead for good.

James R. Cadwell · Post by **James R. Cadwell** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:41 am

Speaking of the alternate timeline:

I've always wondered why Goku didn't just ask Baba to grant him his single day on Earth so he could destroy the "artificial humans". He could have done so within the year after the rest of the fighters were killed, so it would have been possible to revive Piccolo and Kami with the Namek Dragon Balls and everything could have been restored to normal.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:10 pm

Goku's the same guy that got the Earth blown up by Buu because "No dead guy from the history books can save them." or something like that. I bet that if the Androids had killed Trunks and left the Earth defenseless he would have. If he could that is.

Just because the Goku from the manga/anime time-line was given a day dosen't mean the other Goku would have been since he died after only defeating Frieza and didn't sacrifice himself to save the world from Cell.

B-kun · Post by **B-kun** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:16 pm

Xyex wrote:Goku's the same guy that got the Earth blown up by Buu because "No dead guy from the history books can save them." or something like that. I bet that if the Androids had killed Trunks and left the Earth defenseless he would have. If he could that is.

Just because the Goku from the manga/anime time-line was given a day dosen't mean the other Goku would have been since he died after only defeating Freeza and didn't sacrifice himself to save the world from Cell.

*blink* Erm, what's the difference? He would've still got his body because, well, he had it after he was killed by Piccolo (Which makes me wonder why Goku wasn't used as an example when he turned up in the afterlife).

James R. Cadwell · Post by **James R. Cadwell** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:19 pm

Xyex wrote:Just because the Goku from the manga/anime time-line was given a day dosen't mean the other Goku would have been since he died after only defeating Freeza and didn't sacrifice himself to save the world from Cell.

Goku's "grandfather", Gohan, also received a day on Earth. IIRC, anyone in the afterlife (assuming they're not being cleansed in hell) can have twenty-four hours on Earth.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:25 pm

SpiritBomb wrote:
Jerseymilk wrote:You guys are going to get sooo busted for being "off-topic" by EX. Do you all realize that you've used up practically a whole page talking about Link?
I just brought it up that it was more SIMPLE then DBZ! I had absolutely NO idea that these people would use up a page debating on time travel in Zelda!

Jerseymilk, I now understand why Time Travel topics are HORRIBLE! I'm leaving! And NEVER coming back....to this topic, that is...I just dont wanna get banned by EX...

EX isn't like that, don't worry. He will indeed give warnings to a person if they are consistently breaking the rules or being disrespectful to other forum members. He usually just reminds everyone to get back on topic. Quite frankly, I don't know how he manages to put up with us sometimes!

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:18 pm

James R. Cadwell wrote:Speaking of the alternate timeline:

I've always wondered why Goku didn't just ask Baba to grant him his single day on Earth so he could destroy the "artificial humans". He could have done so within the year after the rest of the fighters were killed, so it would have been possible to revive Piccolo and Kami with the Namek Dragon Balls and everything could have been restored to normal.

Who's to say that he would have beaten them? Goku in our timeline wouldn't have been powerful enough to defeat #17 and #18 without the training in the Room Of Spirit and Time. And the Goku in the alternative timeline also wouldn't have had three years of solid training preparing for their arrival.

Maybe only people who don't die of artificial causes get a day on Earth. It's possible that the heart disease counted as a "natural" death.

James R. Cadwell · Post by **James R. Cadwell** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:56 pm

PsyLiam wrote:
James R. Cadwell wrote:Speaking of the alternate timeline:

I've always wondered why Goku didn't just ask Baba to grant him his single day on Earth so he could destroy the "artificial humans". He could have done so within the year after the rest of the fighters were killed, so it would have been possible to revive Piccolo and Kami with the Namek Dragon Balls and everything could have been restored to normal.
Who's to say that he would have beaten them? Goku in our timeline wouldn't have been powerful enough to defeat #17 and #18 without the training in the Room Of Spirit and Time. And the Goku in the alternative timeline also wouldn't have had three years of solid training preparing for their arrival.

It took Vegeta two months to surpass Super Saiya-jin when he trained in the "Room of Spirit and Time". IIRC, the only special properties of the RoSaT (besides the difference in the passage of time) are rapidly varying temperature and increased gravity. I figure the version of Goku from the alternate timeline could have reached a similar level of power with a little under a year of constant training. Goku might have even learned the fusion technique during that period of time.

PsyLiam wrote:Maybe only people who don't die of artificial causes get a day on Earth. It's possible that the heart disease counted as a "natural" death.

That theory makes sense.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:03 am

B-kun wrote:*blink* Erm, what's the difference? He would've still got his body because, well, he had it after he was killed by Piccolo (Which makes me wonder why Goku wasn't used as an example when he turned up in the afterlife).

It's not the keeping of the body but the status thing. Yeah, killing Frieza's a big deal in the mortal world but he wasn't exactly that big of a threat. Where as Cell would have been pracitcally invinsible to anyone else in the univrese and Goku sacrificed himself to save the Earth kind of thing... I don't know, it made sense in my head.

James R. Cadwell wrote:Goku's "grandfather", Gohan, also received a day on Earth. IIRC, anyone in the afterlife (assuming they're not being cleansed in hell) can have twenty-four hours on Earth.

Hmmm... I don't think it would be that loose. I do believe G. Gohan had a little aid from Baba for his appearnce, a specail case. And then there's the fact he became Anin's assistant or something too. If it was as simple as you say then Goku, Gohan, Piccolo, Tien, Krillin, and Yamcha would have all come down and fought the Androids again.

Of course, there's also the Supreme Kai's non-interference in mortal affairs thing so he may not have let them either.

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