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Post by SSJGFrieza » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:16 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Either that, or the guy's having a VERY strong drink before posting it. I know I would.
No wonder he doesn't want to talk power levels
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Post by EA575 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:17 am

From Julian: "Goku wins, then loses, then wins. Vegeta wins, then loses, then didn't. Freeza loses, then wins, loses _and_ wins, then loses."
https://twitter.com/saiyajedi/status/582546968070598656

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Post by sintzu » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:17 am

vegitot wrote:Anyone still think this is more creative than GT
It puts Gt to shame.
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Post by FinalFlash » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:18 am

To be honest, I don't truly see how Whis reversing time hurts the movie for being "predictable." I can understand not liking the mechanic. That's fair enough. However, it's not like DB has ever had an overly complex story or had anything super unpredictable. Wasn't it totally predictable in the Freeza arc that Goku would become a SSJ? I've never heard that complaint leveled against the series. Some of the best works of literature and media could be described as "predictable."

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:18 am

But is Freeza killed eventually, or he is just defeated?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:20 am

Possible scene from the movie drawn? Julian retweeted it. Looks very funny. I wonder what this is all about.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

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Post by sintzu » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:21 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:But is Freeza killed eventually, or he is just defeated?
He gets killed by Goku.
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Post by Birusu16 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:21 am

So the spoilers are true. Julian just confirmed it. Goku wins, loses, and then wins. Vegeta wins, loses (by suffocation I'm guessing), and then didn't. Freeza loses, wins, loses, wins, and loses again. :lol:

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Post by ssjjanemba » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:21 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:But is Freeza killed eventually, or he is just defeated?
Most people are saying he got killed.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:21 am

jjgp1112 wrote:I couldn't care less if 1.37 million is a mistranslation or not because power levels mean absolutely zero to the story.
That being said, the Google translate summary implies that Frieza's strictly talking about his first form, so you can lower your pitchforks :wink:
Yamcha: Do you remember the spell to release him - do you know all the words?
Bulma: Of course! I'm not gonna pull a Frieza and screw it up!
Master Roshi: Bulma, I think Frieza failed because he wore too many clothes!
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Post by Cold Skin » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:22 am

vegitot wrote:Super saiyan blue hair? How creative Toriyama is :clap:
Anyone still think this is more creative than GT
Yeah, cause everything that's simple and keep the original shape is bad and unimaginative.
Bring us ugly animal Super Saiyans 4 making the original character unrecognizable and uninspired new enemies that you don't even care if they are in games and medias, that's better. :roll:

Seriously, making something iconic look slightly new is the real deal. Make the Super Saiyan form feel fresh, but don't make it a new form.
That's a win, it was already the concept of Super Saiyan God: respect the character's original look and just tweak the color to indicate some change.
A clever creative choice, that's what it is.

There was no better way to make it feel like "this is the Super Saiyan form, it's just that it's been modified".
The God status has modified the original Super Saiyan form, this is not a NEW form that must look new, this is the good old, original Super Saiyan that has undergone a side effect.
And since the side effect of having God energy has been established as "the hair color changes" in BOG, why not do the same.
Again and again: black hair to blond hair, red hair to blue hair, same logic.
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Post by TripleRach » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:22 am

I would strongly suggest waiting for information to be confirmed before reacting to it.

And if these new power numbers do turn out to be true, their effect on and relation to the rest of the series doesn't belong here. Keep it about the movie.
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Post by EA575 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:22 am

dbzfan7 wrote:Possible scene from the movie drawn? Julian retweeted it. Looks very funny. I wonder what this is all about.
"Um, so I guess that illustration I retweeted was kind of a spoiler of sorts. It's not what it looks like, sort of." https://twitter.com/saiyajedi/status/582548950210592770
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Post by ShadowWolf87 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:22 am

Doctor. wrote:
Cold Skin wrote:Freezer has done the maximum he could have possibly done, aka destroying the Earth! And of course we don't want the movie to end with Earth being destroyed, it's already dramatic enough that we got to see that nightmarish vision of "Freezer has REALLY blown up the Earth along with all those characters we loved for years"!
Living such a turn of events for 3 minutes is already so intense that it's more than enough, and Freezer has therefore made a striking comeback that improves his presence in the story in great ways and serves his character right!

Freezer is the superstar, Freezer is gold in the flesh, Freezer is at the center of the movie's poster and the movie's title, Freezer is being included in all games with updates...
I think Freezer really gets the spotlight and has done more than what could be expected from him with this movie, including defeating Goku on a one-on-one battle, which was probably he's ultimate dream! So he's done his thing, discard him at the end of the movie, maybe he'll come back next time, but the movie needs to end with a clear "Freezer has been destroyed" even if a doubt is left about it.
It doesn't matter if he destroyed Earth because time was reversed and Goku stopped him, which was a terrible move because it was really predictable. Technically, it never happened and nobody besides Whis and Goku (and maybe Beerus) knew about it. So, no, it's not good for his character. He defeated Goku thanks to Sorbet's help. Again, hardly praiseworthy. I repeat: he died accomplishing absolutely nothing.
How are you not seeing that this is a precise reversal of Namek?

Freeza beat Goku, beat Vegeta, and destroyed the Earth. Even if no one else knows it, who does?

Goku.

Who gets told it's his fault for being so careless?

Goku.

Who has to live with that similar to how he wanted to make Freeza live with the fact he'd been beaten by what he considered trash, and have to live with that shame?

Goku.

Freeza got the perfect revenge.
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Post by ShaneisMC » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:23 am

jjgp1112 wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:I couldn't care less if 1.37 million is a mistranslation or not because power levels mean absolutely zero to the story.
That being said, the Google translate summary implies that Freeza's strictly talking about his first form, so you can lower your pitchforks :wink:
I really hope so. I also wonder if thats true then is it 1.37 million upon revival or after training

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Post by Zephyr » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:25 am

I wonder if Freeza "losing the battle" was referring to him being just about beaten by Vegeta, and him "winning the war" was referring to having blown the Earth up.

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Post by jjgp1112 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:25 am

ShaneisMC wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:I couldn't care less if 1.37 million is a mistranslation or not because power levels mean absolutely zero to the story.
That being said, the Google translate summary implies that Freeza's strictly talking about his first form, so you can lower your pitchforks :wink:
I really hope so. I also wonder if thats true then is it 1.37 million upon revival or after training
As Rach said, let's keep in the PL thread
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:25 am

sintzu wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:I'm reading the past pages and still didn't found about Blue SSJG?!
Is it real?! Goku and Vegeta both get it?! Fill me in :P
Both of them have it.
I think it's a mastered state of the form.
Oh, I get it. Thanks for clarify. But i still think its too soon for they reach a new level, especially Goku.
Well, at least people can't bitch about it saying it looks like Kaioken.
AjayLikesGaming wrote:Kei17 mentioned on Twitter that he considers this film's animation to be superior to what we saw in Battle of Gods. That's nice to know, at least.
Thats the spirit, Toei! I already had spot the improvement in character models in the trailers, but now I have the confirmation overall. 8)
I guess there's was no need for people to freak out for Yamamuro being the director then.
vegitot wrote:Super saiyan blue hair? How creative Toriyama is :clap:
Of course he is. He created Dragon Ball after all.
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Post by Doctor. » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:26 am

ShadowWolf87 wrote:How are you not seeing that this is a precise reversal of Namek?

Freeza beat Goku, beat Vegeta, and destroyed the Earth. Even if no one else knows it, who does?

Goku.

Who gets told it's his fault for being so careless?

Goku.

Who has to live with that similar to how he wanted to make Freeza live with the fact he'd been beaten by what he considered trash, and have to live with that shame?

Goku.

Freeza got the perfect revenge.
You're over-thinking things, we don't even know how bad Earth's destruction affected Goku yet.

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Post by SSJGFrieza » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:27 am

Zephyr wrote:I wonder if Freeza "losing the battle" was referring to him being just about beaten by Vegeta, and him "winning the war" was referring to having blown the Earth up.
Not much of a win since Whis reversed it

I'm sure now Nakao was talking out of his ass
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