Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Eddie]

As much as I'm complaining, I'm sure the movie will at least be on par with Battle of Gods. I'll probably enjoy it so long as my brain is turned off and not focusing on the nuances that are driving me nuts. It sounds like a fun movie if I watch it as a stand alone movie rather than trying to rationalize it.

Why are you trying to rationalize Dragon Ball in the first place? The original source material featured Kuririn calling out Toriyama for being lazy, Yamcha ricocheting off of the top of a manga panel when he gets hit, and cameo appearances from Oz characters. I... I think you're doing Dragon Ball wrong.

[sintzu]

Vegeta was fighting a tired Freeza man.

Also Vegeta couldnt stop an attack that Goku did.

All is fair in war and we don't know how much damage he got from Goku.

I think it was a surprise attack like the one he did on Namek.

[bleed0range]

I told you guys it was a huge assumption on the fans part that Vegeta wins the day and not to speak of it as though it were fact. Too many people did and now they're extra disappointed, but it's their own doing to set that expectation.

It sounds about like what I expected though. Maybe a little less interesting then I had hoped, but we don't know the smaller details of scenes yet. I only have one question though, has anyone figured out what the blue SSJ thing is?

[danielsan_190196]

https://twitter.com/saiyajedi/status/582566660898320384

[Kamiccolo9]

Vegeta was fighting a tired Freeza man.

Also Vegeta couldnt stop an attack that Goku did.

All is fair in war and we don't know how much damage he got from Goku.

I think it was a surprise attack like the one he did on Namek.

"All's fair in love and war" Except getting killed when the bad guys blows up the planet doesn't count as a loss for Vegeta, for some reason.

[Doctor.]

I told you guys it was a huge assumption on the fans part that Vegeta wins the day and not to speak of it as though it were fact. Too many people did and now they're extra disappointed, but it's their own doing to set that expectation.

It sounds about like what I expected though. Maybe a little less interesting then I had hoped, but we don't know the Amal details of scenes yet. I only have one question though, has anyone figured out what the blue SSJ thing is?

Mastered form of SSJG apparently.

[fadeddreams5]

Can someone fill me in on all the new info since yesterday? Way too many new pages.

[sintzu]

Having a good showing against an exhaused Freeza, and still not beating him does not make Vegeta a winner.

Him not killing him doesn't mean he didn't beat him.

If Freeza wasn't defeated then he wouldn't have used a sneak attack like that.

[SansrivaaL]

Vegeta was fighting a tired Freeza man.

Also Vegeta couldnt stop an attack that Goku did.

All is fair in war and we don't know how much damage he got from Goku.

I think it was a surprise attack like the one he did on Namek.

U have a point, glad u'll still be supporting the movie

I dont think Frieza can surprise attack a man that's owning him.

[dbzfan7]

I will give Freeza props for getting his head out of his ass and just blowing up the planet when he knew he was gonna lose, didn't save him in the end but at least he was smarter about it this time than when he did it on Namek.

That makes me wonder if anyone saw it coming. Shouldn't Goku have foresaw he'd probably try and do that again. I hope that is mentioned as that was almost exactly what happened on Namek. If Goku cared about earth and it's people, he'd probably know right away that Freeza might try and pull that stunt again.

Vegeta was fighting a tired Freeza man.

Also Vegeta couldnt stop an attack that Goku did.

All is fair in war and we don't know how much damage he got from Goku.

I think it was a surprise attack like the one he did on Namek.

"All's fair in love and war" Except getting killed when the bad guys blows up the planet doesn't count as a loss for Vegeta, for some reason.

This here. If I beat up a black belt who was exhausted or not at peak, then it's doesn't really mean much. Doesn't make Vegeta stronger than Goku or give him a better showing. Means he could only stand a chance possibly if Goku spoon fed him.

[Birusu16]

https://twitter.com/saiyajedi/status/582566660898320384

That's all that matters to me.

[Kamiccolo9]

Having a good showing against an exhaused Freeza, and still not beating him does not make Vegeta a winner.

Him not killing him doesn't mean he didn't beat him.

If Freeza wasn't defeated then he wouldn't have used a sneak attack like that.

Uh....one guy walked away. The other one didn't.

Saying "nuh-uh, that doesn't count!" doesn't really help your case much.

[Cold Skin]

If this blue SSJ is a matter of adding the super saiyan transformation to his God power, it.makes you wonder why he didn't just go to SSJ2 or SSJ3 right off the bat.

Toriyama said himself that Super Saiyan 2 and Super Saiyan 3 are ultimately worse than Super Saiyan, it's just Super Saiyan burning stronger, and therefore consuming itself faster.
Therefore, Super Saiyan is the best and must be used at all cost, with SS2 and SS3 being avoided forever from now on as they are nothing but huge traps only a fool would want to use. (those are not Toriyama's word, just my way to recap things)

No franchise could stand up under the insane amount of nitpicking about fanmade logic that has been exhibited in this thread.

It's for everything on the Internet.
I swear, Internet is great for a lot of things, we're very lucky to have a connected world nowadays.
But people use it primarly to constantly bitch unreasonably about every single thing and that's tiring. "Not enough this, too much that, stupid idea here: this is garbage by incompetents and it stops here for me." All. The. Time.

Stop thinking about details: is it new? Yes. Is it entertaining? Yes. Then you have nothing more to ask for, enjoy the new entertainment.

[ekrolo2]

I will give Freeza props for getting his head out of his ass and just blowing up the planet when he knew he was gonna lose, didn't save him in the end but at least he was smarter about it this time than when he did it on Namek.

That makes me wonder if anyone saw it coming. Shouldn't Goku have foresaw he'd probably try and do that again. I hope that is mentioned as that was almost exactly what happened on Namek. If Goku cared about earth and it's people, he'd probably know right away that Freeza might try and pull that stunt again.[/quote]

Since we don't know the exact details its hard to say but since the Earth is a pretty fragile planet, Freeza doing something akin to Vegeta's suicide blast probably would've been enough to destroy it even with his injuries.

[Eddie]

I will give Freeza props for getting his head out of his ass and just blowing up the planet when he knew he was gonna lose, didn't save him in the end but at least he was smarter about it this time than when he did it on Namek.

That makes me wonder if anyone saw it coming. Shouldn't Goku have foresaw he'd probably try and do that again. I hope that is mentioned as that was almost exactly what happened on Namek. If Goku cared about earth and it's people, he'd probably know right away that Freeza might try and pull that stunt again.

There's a wonderful interview linked on the main page that features Toriyama talking about his distaste for the anime adaptation turning Goku into that sort of hero. Goku has always been a fairly selfish hero in the original work. He's more concerned about fighting strong guys than saving the world.

[FortuneSSJ]

This is how a real Saiyan beyond god should look like

Spoiler:

Thats why I can't take these guys serious. You don't like red/blue ssjg but you want this instead?!
Well, if it makes you feel better, Freeza new form makes him look like a Gold Saint.

[AvatarReiko]

Uh....Vegeta didn't beat a main villain in this movie either.

He had to cut off his air stream by blowing up the planet in order to not get killed by him.

Sure he didn't kill him but he definitely defeated him in combat which is something Goku couldn't do.

Vegeta was fighting a tired Freeza man. Also Freeza kinda screwed Goku since Sorbet did something while they were fighting, pretty sure that ring has something to do with it. Also Vegeta couldnt stop an attack that Goku did.

Granted, if the power difference between them was that big, Sorbet's distraction wouldn't have worked at all. Goku may have been superior, but it was probably not substantial

[sintzu]

Uh....one guy walked away.The other one didn't.

Vegeta didn't walk away because he couldn't breath,not because Freeza beat him down.

[Jackal puFF]

Aww I was really hoping for Vegeta to beat Frieza this time around.. So there is blue hair huh? And Goku has it too..?

[Mystic Tien]

With that can we just pretend that this movie never happened and it is just a filler? I don't consider most of TOEI movies because of continuity errors and GT because of its plot holes, maybe we could do the same with this movie

Then I guess manga is not a part of manga continuity as well, because it contains plot holes. This doesn't work like that.