"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

Discussion of all things related to Dragon Ball video games (console and portable games, arcade versions, etc.) from the entire franchise's history.
User avatar
GoldLiger
Banned
Posts: 550
Joined: Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:06 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by GoldLiger » Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:41 pm

This has got to be the worst copy paste transformation ever. But heck why are we surprised? Remember this is the same man that gave us Golden Frieza. Blue Super Saiyans are the next best step for him.
Dragon Ball Heroes God Mission = Best sets of missions so far

Super Saiyan 4 Gohan FTW!!

User avatar
DNA
I Live Here
Posts: 4236
Joined: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:23 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by DNA » Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:18 pm

I want that Broli Ozaru key chain! xD it's so deliciously ridiculous that it makes me love it.

So anyway, now we have blue haired super saiyans? Broli did it first, kinda sorta. Okay I'll shut up about Broli now.

User avatar
Lord Beerus
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 21430
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:20 pm
Location: A temple on a giant tree
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:12 pm

GoldLiger wrote:This has got to be the worst copy paste transformation ever. But heck why are we surprised? Remember this is the same man that gave us Golden Freeza. Blue Super Saiyans are the next best step for him.
Yeah, and this is the same man who gave us SSJ1, SSJ2, SSJ3 ASSJ, USSJ etc.

He's never designed a cool transformation. :roll:

User avatar
BlazingBarrrager
I Live Here
Posts: 2058
Joined: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:07 am
Location: Space USA
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by BlazingBarrrager » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:16 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:They fit with all the other figures in this line.

Also, holy shit it's getting a keychain...

Image
KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!

User avatar
GoldLiger
Banned
Posts: 550
Joined: Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:06 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by GoldLiger » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:19 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
GoldLiger wrote:This has got to be the worst copy paste transformation ever. But heck why are we surprised? Remember this is the same man that gave us Golden Freeza. Blue Super Saiyans are the next best step for him.
Yeah, and this is the same man who gave us SSJ1, SSJ2, SSJ3 ASSJ, USSJ etc.

He's never designed a cool transformation. :roll:
Don't you bring that sarcastic tone here Lord Beerus. What AT did here is on the level of a fan art that has been around for over 15+ YEARS. Look at those things. They are basically a recolored Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta. And based on the new Heroes teaser the only thing that changes in the form is the hair, eyebrows and eyes. All go blue. No new hairstyle, no new physical upgrade, no new NOTHING. Just take SS Goku, change everything yellow/green into blue and there you go a new form. At LEAST with Golden Frieza he gave him slight PHYSICAL changes but his two main characters? To him there not even worth it.
Dragon Ball Heroes God Mission = Best sets of missions so far

Super Saiyan 4 Gohan FTW!!

User avatar
TheGameTagerZ
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 244
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:14 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by TheGameTagerZ » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:57 pm

The past two pages feels like one bad fever dream lol.

User avatar
Lord Beerus
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 21430
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:20 pm
Location: A temple on a giant tree
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:23 pm

GoldLiger wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
GoldLiger wrote:This has got to be the worst copy paste transformation ever. But heck why are we surprised? Remember this is the same man that gave us Golden Freeza. Blue Super Saiyans are the next best step for him.
Yeah, and this is the same man who gave us SSJ1, SSJ2, SSJ3 ASSJ, USSJ etc.

He's never designed a cool transformation. :roll:
Don't you bring that sarcastic tone here Lord Beerus. What AT did here is on the level of a fan art that has been around for over 15+ YEARS. Look at those things. They are basically a recolored Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta. And based on the new Heroes teaser the only thing that changes in the form is the hair, eyebrows and eyes. All go blue. No new hairstyle, no new physical upgrade, no new NOTHING. Just take SS Goku, change everything yellow/green into blue and there you go a new form. At LEAST with Golden Freeza he gave him slight PHYSICAL changes but his two main characters? To him there not even worth it.
"This has got to be the worst copy paste transformation ever. But heck why are we surprised?"

The way you worded your comment was in fashion as if that Toriyama has always been designing copy and paste transformations. That is something I take offence with. And the transformation itself hasn't even been confirmed. People are just jumping to conclusions way too quickly.

User avatar
GoldLiger
Banned
Posts: 550
Joined: Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:06 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by GoldLiger » Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:12 pm

I am going to tell you an ultimate truth Lord Beerus. Based on what we seen in both BoG and now leads me to know that Akira Toriyama is NOT cut out to being a designer anymore. Before he made unique forms because he was LIMITED to the BLACK and WHITE manga pages. Now I wouldn't be surprised if in the next movie all the saiyans got POWER RANGERS coloring for their new SS forms. The true Ultimate truth: Akira Toriyama NEEDS to retire.
Dragon Ball Heroes God Mission = Best sets of missions so far

Super Saiyan 4 Gohan FTW!!

User avatar
miguelnuva1
I Live Here
Posts: 2912
Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:23 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by miguelnuva1 » Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:27 pm

GoldLiger wrote:I am going to tell you an ultimate truth Lord Beerus. Based on what we seen in both BoG and now leads me to know that Akira Toriyama is NOT cut out to being a designer anymore. Before he made unique forms because he was LIMITED to the BLACK and WHITE manga pages. Now I wouldn't be surprised if in the next movie all the saiyans got POWER RANGERS coloring for their new SS forms. The true Ultimate truth: Akira Toriyama NEEDS to retire.
Ssj1 and ssj3 were the only orginal forms anyway.

User avatar
dbzfan7
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 13045
Joined: Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:55 am
Location: Earth
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:45 pm

GoldLiger wrote:I am going to tell you an ultimate truth Lord Beerus. Based on what we seen in both BoG and now leads me to know that Akira Toriyama is NOT cut out to being a designer anymore. Before he made unique forms because he was LIMITED to the BLACK and WHITE manga pages. Now I wouldn't be surprised if in the next movie all the saiyans got POWER RANGERS coloring for their new SS forms. The true Ultimate truth: Akira Toriyama NEEDS to retire.
Because forms really matter and define what makes Dragon Ball great.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

User avatar
GoldLiger
Banned
Posts: 550
Joined: Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:06 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by GoldLiger » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:29 am

dbzfan7 wrote:
GoldLiger wrote:I am going to tell you an ultimate truth Lord Beerus. Based on what we seen in both BoG and now leads me to know that Akira Toriyama is NOT cut out to being a designer anymore. Before he made unique forms because he was LIMITED to the BLACK and WHITE manga pages. Now I wouldn't be surprised if in the next movie all the saiyans got POWER RANGERS coloring for their new SS forms. The true Ultimate truth: Akira Toriyama NEEDS to retire.
Because forms really matter and define what makes Dragon Ball great.
And UNIQUE things. Think about it with black and white he literally have no choice but to make things unique. Now working with the animation studio his creativity has gone down the drain.
Dragon Ball Heroes God Mission = Best sets of missions so far

Super Saiyan 4 Gohan FTW!!

User avatar
dbzfan7
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 13045
Joined: Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:55 am
Location: Earth
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:41 am

GoldLiger wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:
GoldLiger wrote:I am going to tell you an ultimate truth Lord Beerus. Based on what we seen in both BoG and now leads me to know that Akira Toriyama is NOT cut out to being a designer anymore. Before he made unique forms because he was LIMITED to the BLACK and WHITE manga pages. Now I wouldn't be surprised if in the next movie all the saiyans got POWER RANGERS coloring for their new SS forms. The true Ultimate truth: Akira Toriyama NEEDS to retire.
Because forms really matter and define what makes Dragon Ball great.
And UNIQUE things. Think about it with black and white he literally have no choice but to make things unique. Now working with the animation studio his creativity has gone down the drain.
It's a form. If it were good and the movie sucked...we'd be losing a lot more. I'd rather a good story than a good looking form. I'd rather story creativity than design creativity. We'll just have to wait and see if the story is creative, despite it's questionable premise.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

User avatar
Lord Beerus
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 21430
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:20 pm
Location: A temple on a giant tree
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:38 am

GoldLiger wrote:I am going to tell you an ultimate truth Lord Beerus. Based on what we seen in both BoG and now leads me to know that Akira Toriyama is NOT cut out to being a designer anymore. Before he made unique forms because he was LIMITED to the BLACK and WHITE manga pages. Now I wouldn't be surprised if in the next movie all the saiyans got POWER RANGERS coloring for their new SS forms. The true Ultimate truth: Akira Toriyama NEEDS to retire.
Could you have come up with the designs of Beerus, Whis or Goku and Vegeta's new outfits in Resurrection F?

I love how people rag on Toriyama for lack of creativity when creating new forms but at the same time their idea of SSJ God is just a recolour of a SSJ4 and Freeza's Ultimate Evolution is just a recolour of Cooler's Fifth Form, and this is deemed awesome and innovative.

User avatar
DBZGTKOSDH
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 12401
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:45 pm
Location: Greece

Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:20 am

So that's Super Saiyan God 2?! :lol:

I like it! It looks like Toriyama was playing Tekken: Dark Resurrection. :P
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

User avatar
dbgtFO
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 7977
Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:07 pm
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by dbgtFO » Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:07 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:So that's Super Saiyan God 2?! :lol:

I like it! It looks like Toriyama was playing Tekken: Dark Resurrection. :P
I'm too stupid to get the joke, so please elaborate :eh:

User avatar
DNA
I Live Here
Posts: 4236
Joined: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:23 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by DNA » Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:28 am

I thought this topic was to discuss Dragon Ball Heroes?

User avatar
GoldLiger
Banned
Posts: 550
Joined: Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:06 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by GoldLiger » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:44 am

DNA wrote:I thought this topic was to discuss Dragon Ball Heroes?
So basically the new form of Goku and Vegeta is just them going Super Saiyan using 100% God Ki. There ya go.
Dragon Ball Heroes God Mission = Best sets of missions so far

Super Saiyan 4 Gohan FTW!!

User avatar
DBZGTKOSDH
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 12401
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:45 pm
Location: Greece

Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:51 am

dbgtFO wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:So that's Super Saiyan God 2?! :lol:

I like it! It looks like Toriyama was playing Tekken: Dark Resurrection. :P
I'm too stupid to get the joke, so please elaborate :eh:
In T:DR, you can costumize the characters, and one of the different hairstyles of Jin Kazama is Goku's SS hairstyle with blue color.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

User avatar
dbgtFO
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 7977
Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:07 pm
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by dbgtFO » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:21 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:So that's Super Saiyan God 2?! :lol:

I like it! It looks like Toriyama was playing Tekken: Dark Resurrection. :P
I'm too stupid to get the joke, so please elaborate :eh:
In T:DR, you can costumize the characters, and one of the different hairstyles of Jin Kazama is Goku's SS hairstyle with blue color.
Oh right, I remember that now.

User avatar
TheGameTagerZ
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 244
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:14 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by TheGameTagerZ » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:20 pm

GoldLiger wrote:
DNA wrote:I thought this topic was to discuss Dragon Ball Heroes?
So basically the new form of Goku and Vegeta is just them going Super Saiyan using 100% God Ki. There ya go.
Can you just stop please, seriously there's a thread about the movie where you can list all your complaints in. Unless you got something to say about Dragon Ball Heroes then stop.

Post Reply