It seems that Whis can change events of the past without creating new timelines. Though these are just speculations now.Friezacooler wrote:Were Shenron and Dende on Earth when it got blown up? How is Defeating freeza in the past gonna change the event in the future? Trunks time Line doesn't work like that right?
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Marco Polo wrote:He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
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Cell arc relied on alternate separate timelines. What Whis does is straight up grandfather paradox mess within the same timeline if confirmedFriezacooler wrote:Were Shenron and Dende on Earth when it got blown up? How is Defeating freeza in the past gonna change the event in the future? Trunks time Line doesn't work like that right?
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Whis and Beerus are still the most interesting thing that happen to this series, in the last years.
Why Beerus wanted to be awaked 3 years later?!
Why Whis is even helping Goku and Vegeta?! Its not like they are best friends.
I want to believe this all has to do with something that will coming in the future.
Why Beerus wanted to be awaked 3 years later?!
Why Whis is even helping Goku and Vegeta?! Its not like they are best friends.
I want to believe this all has to do with something that will coming in the future.
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.
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Yeah so Goku didn't win either....what was this all about? Oh yeah. Fighting to the death. In the end Freeza killed everyone but Goku, who he probably would have killed if Vegeta didn't fight next. Considering the goal is to kill each other, I'd say Freeza pretty much won til Whis stepped in.Lord Frieza wrote:And theirs no red card to be seen when Goku eats a senzu bean and goes back in time to a point when the guy who just beat the crap out of him was weakend from fighting to "Saiyans Beyond God" in a row.dbzfan7 wrote:Like Vegeta exploiting Freeza's transformation as it has the same weakness as his 100% power did on Namek, and taking advantage of Freeza having weakened himself after fighting Goku. But when Freeza takes advantage of Saiyan physiology, then no apparently he doesn't win. What a cheater. How dare he not fight fair.Lord Freeza wrote:Is it really that cheap for Freeza to blow up the planet, most people would be called smart for exploiting an opponent's weakness, shutch as needing to breathe oxygen.
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Agree, but there BETTER be a good pay off and all this setting up needs to amount to something. If it's Whis' game to find the next God of Destruction then so be it, or if he's trying to use Goku/Vegeta to his own purpouse. But there's gota be something other than "they all just like to fight and that's it". That stuff always felt lazy and dumbed down Goku considerablyFortuneSSJ wrote:Whis and Beerus are still the most interesting thing that happen to this series, in the last years.
Why Beerus wanted to be awaked 3 years later?!
Why Whis is helping Goku and Vegeta?! Its not like they are best friends.
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Maybe Whis is planning to use them to defeat Gods of Destruction from the other universes? Why he even brought them up to begin with?FortuneSSJ wrote:Whis and Beerus are still the most interesting thing that happen to this series, in the last years.
Why Beerus wanted to be awaked 3 years later?!
Why Whis is helping Goku and Vegeta?! Its not like they are best friends.
I want to believe this all has to do with something that will coming in the future.
Who knows, maybe there is some important event, which is hinted into the scene post credits.
Me too, me too.
Marco Polo wrote:He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
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Or maybe he doesn't want to listen to Beerus go on and on about not getting any pudding.Beerus-sama wrote:maybe because if not there wont be a happy ending
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I would include Towa and Mira if the subject is the whole franchise.FortuneSSJ wrote:Whis and Beerus are still the most interesting thing that happen to this series, in the last years.
Why Beerus wanted to be awaked 3 years later?!
I want to believe this all has to do with something that will coming in the future.
Bills didn't want, it was Wiss who said to him to sleep for three years.
Same here.
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I don't think Goku is going to feel very good about the way he went about beating Frieza. He's one to want to win by his own power, and It just seens to me like he'd have to bite the bullet to do something like go back in time after eating a senzu bean to defeat an enemy. That's just not Goku's way. But like in BOG, he will do anything to protect his loved ones, even if he doesn't get to do things the way he wants.
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I'm actually glad there are no real, complete moral victories for Goku, Vegeta and Frieza, it's more fun that way and it does feel like real battles.
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No, Beerus was the one who wanted to go to sleep for 3 years, in the extended edition. That was an edit of the theatrical cut.Dyno wrote:I would include Towa and Mira if the subject is the whole franchise.FortuneSSJ wrote:Whis and Beerus are still the most interesting thing that happen to this series, in the last years.
Why Beerus wanted to be awaked 3 years later?!
I want to believe this all has to do with something that will coming in the future.
Bills didn't want, it was Wiss who said to him to sleep for three years.
Same here.
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Freeza blowing Earth the f*ck up when he realized he had no chance of winning any other way is the smart move and it worked, if it wasn't for Whis' ass pull time travel powers he would've permanently won the fight, war, after war and everything after that.
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Ah, in the extended version. Didn't know about that.Doctor. wrote:No, Beerus was the one who wanted to go to sleep for 3 years, in the extended edition. That was an edit of the theatrical cut.
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Well throw away Whis' power, and Freeza would have a short time to enjoy himself with his victory, til Beerus or Whis kill him.ekrolo2 wrote:Freeza blowing Earth the f*ck up when he realized he had no chance of winning any other way is the smart move and it worked, if it wasn't for Whis' ass pull time travel powers he would've permanently won the fight, war, after war and everything after that.
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No, its the other way around. Beerus is the one that asks Whis to awake him 3 years later.Dyno wrote: Bills didn't want, it was Wiss who said to him to sleep for three years.
3 years is not even a nap for him, so its normal thinking something big should happen.
Nah, he became a God so he could keep up with Beerus. More than protecting the earth, his goal was once again test himself and reach the next level.Tennessaiyan wrote:I don't think Goku is going to feel very good about the way he went about beating Freeza. He's one to want to win by his own power, and It just seens to me like he'd have to bite the bullet to do something like go back in time after eating a senzu bean to defeat an enemy. That's just not Goku's way. But like in BOG, he will do anything to protect his loved ones, even if he doesn't get to do things the way he wants.
Protecting the Earth, like Toriyama says, its just the bonus. Its obvious he cares about it and his friends, but not like superman.
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He wouldn't be enjoying anything for too long considering he'd still have Goku, Beerus, and Whis to deal with and the latter 2 can kill him with ease.ekrolo2 wrote:Freeza blowing Earth the f*ck up when he realized he had no chance of winning any other way is the smart move and it worked, if it wasn't for Whis' ass pull time travel powers he would've permanently won the fight, war, after war and everything after that.
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Hes sleeping most of the time, I doubt that is the casesintzu wrote:Or maybe he doesn't want to listen to Beerus go on and on about not getting any pudding.Beerus-sama wrote:maybe because if not there wont be a happy ending
you didn't saw the Directors cut then...Dyno wrote:
Bills didn't want, it was Wiss who said to him to sleep for three years.
Same here.
Beerus tell Whis to wake him in three years there.
Sleeping until the tournament is over.
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Of course not. I don't live in those "golden" countries and no one uploaded the new scenes on Youtube.Beerus-sama wrote:you didn't saw the Directors cut then...
And I already answered "Doctor.", there's no need to tell me the director's cut version anymore.
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Sorry, everyone is posting fast in this thread now I didn't saw him answering you and you answering him until I posted.Dyno wrote:Of course not. I don't live in those "golden" countries and no one uploaded the new scenes on Youtube.Beerus-sama wrote:you didn't saw the Directors cut then...
And I already answered "Doctor.", there's no need to tell me the director's cut version anymore.
Sleeping until the tournament is over.
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Vegeta reluctantly holds Goku's hand when they go back to the earth with instant transmission.soulnova wrote:Things to ask Julian:
- What's the deal with that pic of Goku and Vegeta holding hands? xD Is that how Vegeta gets his power up?
NO.- Any mention of Bulma being pregnant or she wanting another baby?
- Do Trunks and Goten appear at any point of the movie? and if yes, do they look a little more grown than before? Do they actually join the fight?
- Do we see more than a flashback of Future Trunks?
- Any mention of what Tights is doing right now?
- Does Bulma actually join the fight with advanced weapons vs goons?
Piccolo rocks her cradle.- Do the cast interacts with Pan?







