Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Doctor.]

I'm not trying sound elitist. I just find it ridiculous is so many ways that somebody could comment on Freeza like that in such a manner. Hence, the gif.

You think hes not lame and overrated in this movie?

He got one shotted by base gohan and i dont care if it was filler, it was a fact that toriyama created himself when he introduced androids, cell, and other villains that were light years strongest than Freeza. And even went so far into making goku a god. Only for him to still struggle against 4 month trained Freeza? Ridiculous!

It just means they weren't as strong as you thought, not that Freeza was weak.

[Lord Beerus]

You think hes not lame and overrated in this movie?

You've already seen Resurrection F? Please provide a full plot summary, so I can know just how lame and overrated he is.

[Chuquita]

*Sees it's 7:30am in Japan. Wonders if Julian's awake and starting on his summary or if he's going to do it in the evening over there.*

[Doctor.]

Wrong thread.

[GokuRules987]

It just means they weren't as strong as you thought, not that Freeza was weak.

NO. I dont believe that. Goku trained with gohan for year in hyporbolic time chamber, and trunks powers were enough to vaporize frieza in a single blast. yet he got wiped out by android 18 along with other z fighters and vegeta being a super saiyan. It just shows the massive power difference that characters during android saga had. Frieza is a fodder at that point.

[Lord Beerus]

*Sees it's 7:30am in Japan. Wonders if Julian's awake and starting on his summary or if he's going to do it in the evening over there.*

Getting a bit anxious aren't ya, Chuquita?

[Lord Frieza]

Are people still going on about this 4 month thing after all this time. The series is littered with stuff like this (although not to this extreme).

The biggest offended that comes to mind was when Goku and Gohan (who was weaker then Piccolo pre fusion with Kami) trained in the time room for less then a year yet both of them utterly out classed Vegeta and Trunks who trained for two years straight. Also during that time nether of them mastered their Super Saiyan Form (although in Vegeta's case it was likely his pigheadedness that stopped him from doing so).

[Chuquita]

*Sees it's 7:30am in Japan. Wonders if Julian's awake and starting on his summary or if he's going to do it in the evening over there.*

Getting a bit anxious aren't ya, Chuquita?

It's because I'm home now and actually have a window of time today to devote to shifting through a summary for fun things to draw. :3

That window doesn't exist tomorrow or Wednesday. If not today, I'll just have to deal with waiting until Thursday.

[Polyphase Avatron]

It would be awesome if Freeza survived. Imagine him getting more stronger, and he poses a threat to the 12 other universes. He can basically become the Thanos of the DBZ universe.

Thanos is the guy who wants to die, though...

My understanding of Marvel isn't good, but what i mean is that Freeza can be a threat to all 12 universes just like Thanos was a threat to the entire Marvel universe.

Thanos is a nihilist. He is literally in love with the anthropomorphic personification of death. He's also always trying to get supreme power but he subconsciously considers himself unworthy of it and so often allows himself to be defeated. And he has actually helped save the universe a few times, or even been on the good side, but for his own reasons. So even though he has killed more people than Freeza ever did, he is still probably less evil than Freeza is.

[fadeddreams5]

I'm not trying sound elitist. I just find it ridiculous is so many ways that somebody could comment on Freeza like that in such a manner. Hence, the gif.

You think hes not lame and overrated in this movie?

He got one shotted by base gohan and i dont care if it was filler, it was a fact that toriyama created himself when he introduced androids, cell, and other villains that were light years strongest than Freeza. And even went so far into making goku a god. Only for him to still struggle against 4 month trained Freeza? Ridiculous!

That wasn't base Gohan; it was Mystic/Ultimate Gohan, who in that film is pretty much stronger than every other character besides Gogeta and (maybe) Janemba.

Also, maybe I'm wrong, but absolutely all of your posts seem to be about feats and power level. People consider Frieza a great villain based on his relevance, characterization, and relation with the characters, not his powers. Besides, in the current movie, he is stronger than every other villain in this series as of yet.

[Dayspring]

I'm not trying sound elitist. I just find it ridiculous is so many ways that somebody could comment on Freeza like that in such a manner. Hence, the gif.

You think hes not lame and overrated in this movie?

He got one shotted by base gohan and i dont care if it was filler, it was a fact that toriyama created himself when he introduced androids, cell, and other villains that were light years strongest than Freeza. And even went so far into making goku a god. Only for him to still struggle against 4 month trained Freeza? Ridiculous!

It just means they weren't as strong as you thought, not that Freeza was weak.

Exactly. If Freeza's first form were a Namek warrior, he'd need access to a planet with 10G and 3.6 months of training to catch up to Piccolo's strength at the start of the android saga. Instead, we have Freeza himself, who has both the planet (and likely stronger ones) and a regen tank, so catching up to Cell Games Piccolo is more believable. Now tack on four of Freeza's Namek-era transformations and he's 240x stronger than that aforementioned Piccolo. It makes sense, especially when you add this additional unknown golden form.

[FortuneSSJ]

NO. I dont believe that. Goku trained with gohan for year in hyporbolic time chamber, and trunks powers were enough to vaporize Freeza in a single blast. yet he got wiped out by android 18 along with other z fighters and vegeta being a super saiyan. It just shows the massive power difference that characters during android saga had. Freeza is a fodder at that point.

Doesn't matter he trained. Its explained and we will get the details later.
He didn't reach God level, Goku could still beat him in the first round, if Freeza wasn't the villain that I love and "cheated" to win.
He got a new form and power boost. No fodder anymore.

People like you that would treat Freeza like shit by this point, can now chance your power level list because it isn't Freeza < Cell < Buu anymore.

[Marty Kirra]

Someone earlier in the thread stated it best: I think power levels take away a lot of the fun of seeing these fights happen. I really hope they don't give Freeza any kind of power level in the movie because...just no.

That being said, I've been really skeptical of this movie since they revealed Freeza as the antagonist and even more skeptical with the reveal of his Golden form. Bluku and Blugeta have really gotten me miffed but it's all in execution. Reading bullet-point summaries of this plot aren't getting me excited but I'm sure it'll be fun to watch regardless of the literal Deus-Ex Machina they seem to pull at the end.

[GokuRules987]

You think hes not lame and overrated in this movie?

You've already seen Resurrection F? Please provide a full plot summary, so I can know just how lame and overrated he is.

Look the whole idea of frieza coming back and in 4 months being able to compete against God Goku was only because frieza is popular.He can resurrect anytime he wants and defeat anybody he wants, and break the manga logic anytime he wants because its all about $$$$$$.
And frieza is like darth vader in japan, everybody knows who he is even if they never watched or read dragon ball.

Toriyama saying that this movie is the adaptation to the manga is even more absurd because it looks like bad casted filler to me.

And i did at the beginning said that frieza was lame and overrated but what i meant is about the whole idea of this movie frieza playing the role as the main villian. It would have been much better if there was actually some kind of master mind behind frieza or a god who possibly trained him and that goku and vegeta had to fight him. It would have atleast made the movie less tedious.

[SSJGFrieza]

Who needs the Dragon Balls anymore when you have Whis?

I like Whis but this leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

[Marty Kirra]

Who needs the Dragon Balls anymore when you have Whis?

I like Whis but this leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Seems like a really bad cop-out no matter how you slice it. Reading the manga it was really apparent Whis's brand new time travel shenanigans would play into the movie in such a way, unfortunately.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Who needs the Dragon Balls anymore when you have Whis?

I like Whis but this leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Well Whis said he could only go back in time a bit so if you want to bring someone back who died too long ago you would need the Dragonballs.

[Lord Beerus]

Who needs the Dragon Balls anymore when you have Whis?

I like Whis but this leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I'm sure that there are limits to how much he can rewind time.

[Rozay]

That wasn't base Gohan; it was Mystic/Ultimate Gohan, who in that film is pretty much stronger than every other character besides Gogeta and (maybe) Janemba.

Also, maybe I'm wrong, but absolutely all of your posts seem to be about feats and power level. People consider Freeza a great villain based on his relevance, characterization, and relation with the characters, not his powers. Besides, in the current movie, he is stronger than every other villain in this series as of yet.

It was base Gohan, if you paid attention to his bangs, it has that single hair that signifies he's in his base. Anyway, not that big of a deal since the movie is non-canon. Although you can't blame anybody for making their own canon since Toriyama (although not the only one to do this) lets his creation get used by a company so much that he has to keep correcting things in interviews afterwards. You can see why after some point he just wouldn't care.

Anyway, back to the movie: am I the only one that wanted a Majin Buu/Frieza interaction? I'm really sad Buu doesn't show up at all. Way more sad than Goten and Trunks not showing up. Oh wait, I'm not sad about that at all.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Who needs the Dragon Balls anymore when you have Whis?

I like Whis but this leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I'm sure that there are limits to how much he can rewind time.

Τhere are, he can turn back time for up to 3 minutes.