Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Drayenko]

So basically what BoG haters wanted, nothing but mindless fighting.

Seriously, again? Where are you people getting this from. Stop assuming things.

[SSJGFrieza]

Seriously, again? Where are you people getting this from. Stop assuming things.

This was the biggest complaint i saw, that there was too much comedy and not enough action.

[fadeddreams5]

Guys, stop trivializing what "BoG haters" desire from a DBZ movie. They wanted less comedy and more action. That doesn't mean 100% action from start to finish with little plot or interaction. It just so happens many people didn't find BoG funny--me included.

Here's my quick critique.

THIS IS NOT A MOVIE.

There's a Japanese term 起承転結 (introduction, development, turn, conclusion) which is often referred to when it comes to writing fiction, and Resurrection F completely lacks development in it. Foes appear, warriors gather, fight, then win. There is no development in the story. It's just punch, punch, kick, beam, funny conversations, punch, beam, funny reactions, beam, punch, Kamehameha! I can even hardly call this a story. It fails to be something enough calling a movie.

However, that doesn't mean it's not entertaining. It sure has a lot of charms. It's got a lot of hilarious and heartwarming moments (like Jaco's funny lines, Piccolo rocking Pan's cradle and Android 18 showing her love for Krillin) that definitely entertain fans, and the characters feel very on-character thanks to Toriyama. Also, a lot of the fight sequences were much better than my expectations. They're mainly focused on fist-to-fist struggles and it's not a boring beam show that GT was. Especially, Kamesen'nin was really badass this time. You ought to check it out yourself.

Things that bugged me were some really amateurish transitions of scenes, the persistent and unfunny gag moments by Beerus, and the choreography of battle sequences. Some scenes were suddenly inserted that I couldn't immediately understand what's happening. For example, Sorbet finds Pilaf and co in his space ship, and within the next two shots, they're already trapped in the ship and talking with Sorbet. It could have been a lot better by showing Pilaf and his gang first, then the space ship comes, trapped, and Sorbet gets introduced. Also, though Freeza mentions his training for a few months, the training itself is never shown and you don't understand how he could have become stronger. He just comes to the Earth shortly after his resurrection. As for gag moments, honestly, Beerus was unneeded in this movie. He just continues on talking about foods, which we've already seen enough in BoG, and contributes nothing to the story. Also, he acts high and mighty all the way that it spoils Freeza's terror. Whis alone would have been completely fine this time. The battle choreography was mostly nice, but it was often too "realistic" that it's not very DB-esque. It could have been more planet-scale. The overuse of slowmo doesn't help, too.

In conclusion, this is a compilation of battle sequences with Toriyama's elements inserted between them, which is enjoyable for DB fans and those who want to enjoy hardcore actions with an empty head. But to me, this does not feel like a movie at all. It feels like an overly rich OVA.

Thanks for honest opinion.

Can't say I'm surprised, at all.

[TheGmGoken]

There's a Japanese term 起承転結 (introduction, development, turn, conclusion) which is often referred to when it comes to writing fiction, and Resurrection F completely lacks development in it. Foes appear, warriors gather, fight, then win. There is no development in the story. It's just punch, punch, kick, beam, funny conversations, punch, beam, funny reactions, beam, punch, Kamehameha! I can even hardly call this a story. It fails to be something enough calling a movie.

So basically what BoG haters wanted, nothing but mindless fighting.

I can see modern western Z fans loving this movie then.

Really? Everyone who disliked BoG wanted the same thing?

[Drayenko]

So this movie is every Battle of Gods non-lover's fault.

I'm expecting good writing, good storytelling, good everything. And I, me, myself, didn't get that from Battle of Gods. Am I a criminal for that? What the hell.

I'll repeat myself as I always do. The 2008 special is Dragon Ball in essence. I don't care about fighting, stronger guys. I want something that can be enjoyed, with a nice plot. Yes, Tarble is a retcon bla bla bla, but the special is so good that I don't care.

[JulieYBM]

Yeah, I had the feeling going off of the advertising that there wasn't much to the film. It's a shame, but I suppose for Toriyama writing this movie was no different then writing the Trunks arc. Here's hoping the next film returns to having something a little more akin to a story.

[Sandubadear]

Seriously, again? Where are you people getting this from. Stop assuming things.

This was the biggest complaint i saw, that there was too much comedy and not enough action.

You're right, people forget that in the first place, Dragon Ball is a comedy manga, and then it became action.

[Chuquita]

Sad it's plot what plot, but at least hoping the Gokû and Vegeta interactions make up for it.

[Doctor.]

Seems like a pointless and unnecessary punchfest of a film, then.

[SSJGFrieza]

So this movie is every Battle of Gods non-lover's fault.

I'm expecting good writing, good storytelling, good everything. And I, me, myself, didn't get that from Battle of Gods. Am I a criminal for that? What the hell.

I'll repeat myself as I always do. The 2008 special is Dragon Ball in essence. I don't care about fighting, stronger guys. I want something that can be enjoyed, with a nice plot. Yes, Tarble is a retcon bla bla bla, but the special is so good that I don't care.

No it's Maximum the Hormone's fault

If it weren't for that song we might have gotten a movie about the other universe and whatnot. Instead it inspired AT to bring Freeza back just to kill him off again.

Or maybe he was going to bring Freeza back anyway, i'm just disappointed with how it turned out.

[Drayenko]

You're right, people forget that in the first place, Dragon Ball is a comedy manga, and then it became action.

This comment comes out of nowhere too. The series evolved. It doesn't have to remain comedy "BECAUSE THAT'S THE REAL DRAGON BALL."

[Chrono Trigger]

From the way things are shaping up it sounds like...where Battle of Gods was an "A" this movie is a "B-". Not bad but not as good as BoG and definitely a step in the wrong direction.

[Noah]

Also, though Freeza mentions his training for a few months, the training itself is never shown and you don't understand how he could have become stronger. He just comes to the Earth shortly after his resurrection. As for gag moments, honestly, Beerus was unneeded in this movie. He just continues on talking about foods, which we've already seen enough in BoG, and contributes nothing to the story. Also, he acts high and mighty all the way that it spoils Freeza's terror. Whis alone would have been completely fine this time.

That's pretty sad... So Toriyama think that we just going to swallow Freeza off-screen overwhelming training? He's not inspired to make new DB stories anymore in my opinion.

Also Beerus being useless to the plot seems something predictable for me.

[Doctor.]

From the way things are shaping up it sounds like...where Battle of Gods was an "A" this movie is a "B-". Not bad but not as good as BoG and definitely a step in the wrong direction.

I'd more or less say where Battle of Gods was an A, this is more of a C-.

Hopefully I change my mind.

[snaku]

Sounds like the cutting room floor strikes again. The jarring transition sequences and completely skipping over Freeza's training are dead giveaways. The extended cut, should one come out, will probably do this film many favors.

[Drayenko]

No it's Maximum the Hormone's fault

If it weren't for that song we might have gotten a movie about the other universe and whatnot. Instead it inspired AT to bring Freeza back just to kill him off again.

Or maybe he was going to bring Freeza back anyway, i'm just disappointed with how it turned out.

Personally, I love the song. I always get the feeling Dragon Ball is mistreated. I'm jealous of One Piece, even though I'm a HUGE fan.

[JulieYBM]

Now that I think about it, it sounds like Fukkatsu no F is better than expected storytelling without the actual story part.

[Hellspawn28]

I really hope we get a director's cut on the movie. It sounds like the movie is not good as BOG. I don't think the movie will be as bad as Lord Slug, Super 13 and the Broli sequels.

[AM Reflection]

Seriously, again? Where are you people getting this from. Stop assuming things.

This was the biggest complaint i saw, that there was too much comedy and not enough action.

You're right, people forget that in the first place, Dragon Ball is a comedy manga, and then it became action.

Nobody forgets that. It just has no relevance. The manga's story and its tone changed as Goku grew older. "Dragonball Z" was always action oriented and BoG was branded as a "Dragonball Z" movie.

[kei17]

Sad it's plot what plot, but at least hoping the Gokû and Vegeta interactions make up for it.

Oh, I forgot to mentions that. There was a nice development in their relationship and Vegeta had the enough spotlight.