Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[bleed0range]

After that we have the other 11 universes to deal with.

This made my eyes glaze over. They aren't seriously going to do more than one or two more of these, right?

If this makes a bunch of money they'll probably make more. But I think Toriyama's namesake involvement will be less of a marketing tool as time goes on and it's no longer special. Plus I'm sure he'll eventually get tired of new Dragon Ball content.

[MajinMan]

Really, when I stop and think about the tone of the original manga at the time of the Freeza arc and then look at everything I know so far about this movie... I think it could have been so much more. I mean yeah, they missed the opportunity to add to the lore of the world with all the new stuff we got introduced to in BOG, but it also seems to be missing the mark on really good interactions between Freeza and Goku/Vegeta. I haven't heard anyone impressed by the performance of Freeza yet and as you all know that's one of the best things about that arc in the 90s. It doesn't seem as though Freeza is treated as a true threat and that's exactly what it should have been. It should have been scary that Freeza is back and as powerful to them now as he was then. It should have explored his training and really developed his character. It's coming short on both Freeza's character and the expansion of the dragon world. It's a shallow sounding film. I hate to sound negative, because I am not trying to be negative. I am just more disappointed by that then any other factor.

But again until I see it, I can't really judge. Plus we haven't really heard much from Julian yet.

The more I think about it, it seems like Freeza isn't even the focus of this film. It's all about Goku and Vegeta growing as fighters and Freeza is basically the sparring partner that wants to kill them. Sure it cheapens Freeza, but he's basically a plot device at this point and is used for training.

[SSJGFrieza]

Freeza has been made into a joke, he's nothing but a training exercise for Goku and Vegeta. The ultimate DB villain even with the biggest power up in the series is a fucking joke.

Fuck Nakao, his interview was the reason i was so goddamn hyped for this movie. I could have lived with Goku taking away Vegeta's moment if Freeza had somehow survived.

My jimmies are going to be rustled for a long time.

[MajinMan]

Freeza has been made into a joke, he's nothing but a training exercise for Goku and Vegeta. The ultimate DB villain even with the biggest power upin the series is a fucking joke.

Fuck Nakao, his interview was the reason i was so goddamn hyped for this movie. I could have lived with Goku taking away Vegeta's moment if Freeza had somehow survived.

My jimmies are going to be rustled for a long time.

It's ok Cell will be next on the list of training partners. Goku will probably revive him and make him train like Freeza to see what happens. Then we have a coach Goku montage where he's making Cell run and do push ups and Cell turns gold and kicks everyones ass. Then Goku will somehow kill him and surpass everything.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

So how's everyone gonna go about adding this film to their collection? Since the wait between the US and Japanese release is so short this time, are you still going to bother importing the latter or are you just going to jump straight to the English release? Depending on what the special edition comes with, I think I'll probably end up just grabbing the standard Japanese DVD so I can get the trailers for the film, along with the free poster (hopefully) and then wait for Madman's Blu-Ray, since they don't seem to do combo packs and we only have one Blu-Ray player.

By the way, check out this train in Japan. I'm guessing this sort of heavy advertising is the norm over there?




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[trunkschan90]

http://www.anmtvla.com/2015/03/eduardo- ... je-de.html

It looks like Eduardo Garza (the second voice of Krillin) will be voice director for the Latin American dub of Dragon Ball Z: La Resurrección de Freezer.

[Low Tone G]

Finally if the forum has calmed down.... I will share my biggest disappoinment regarding the info we have gotten:

I never really believed Dragon Ball will end up like this, not even in the hands of Toei, or in some fanfic... From what I know currently, the film is not even an average fanfic level, is a bad fanfic level.

I'm very disappointed that Toriyama came with this. Do not get me wrong I respect him, but it should be a shame that he even stated that the film will be good, and even Torishima was safisfied with it... If I had an opportunity I would ask him not get involved in other productions in the future. The BoG was a good fim, but uncomplete, I has been waiting for a sequel, but not like this we have gotten.

1. Originality: 1 of 10 - This a complete update of Namek saga, not even the ending is something else/new.... Goku's friends will fight Freeza's army, then Vegeta challenges Freeza, but Goku wins in the end of the day.

2. The reasoning of Freeza to bridge that huuuuge power gap(as we know at this point) isn't at all explained, and the whole prodigy thing is nothing to begin with. So 1of 10.

3. No character development at all 1 of 10.

4. No signs of cliffhanger, or some hints for other challeges in the future, when the movie is completely useless on its own.

5. The other good things are Whis, Beerus and possibly Jaco... 8 of 10.

The manga version was really promising, but the ending is huge disappointment.

So not even a single hint of other universes in the film, Kei17? Sorry Kei, I was spelling your name wrong.

[sintzu]

Freeza has been made into a joke.

Goku taking away Vegeta's moment.

He defeated Goku&blew up earth which is anything but a joke.

Goku didn't take away anything from Vegeta,Sure Vegeta didn't kill Freeza but he still defeated him in a 1on1 fight which is something Goku didn't do so he definitely had his moment.

[SSJGFrieza]

Freeza has been made into a joke.

Goku taking away Vegeta's moment.

He defeated Goku&blew up earth which is anything but a joke.

Goku didn't take away anything from Vegeta,Sure Vegeta didn't kill Freeza but he still defeated him in a 1on1 fight which is something Goku didn't do so he definitely had his moment.

1. Freeza had help from Sorbet
2. Earth getting blown up got undone because of deus ex Whis
3. Freeza was already worn out from his fight with Goku

Freeza didn't accomplish anything

[Saiga]

Freeza has been made into a joke, he's nothing but a training exercise for Goku and Vegeta. The ultimate DB villain even with the biggest power up in the series is a fucking joke.

Fuck Nakao, his interview was the reason i was so goddamn hyped for this movie. I could have lived with Goku taking away Vegeta's moment if Freeza had somehow survived.

My jimmies are going to be rustled for a long time.

Freeza was a joke before this movie.

From the sounds of it, he's somewhat less of a joke than any of his pre-Namek appearances. Mecha Freeza, Movie 12, and GT all made much more sport of him than this.

He's a long dead character, who had no reason to be relevant again, suddenly brought back and given a massive power up and new form, starring in his own movie. I can't believe people are getting upset that he's not also treated as a huge deal, if anything it's a good thing that they didn't go too far and make everything revolve around him in this movie.

[SSJGFrieza]

He's the most important villain in Dragon Ball i'm sorry but that quantifies to being a big deal.

[AM Reflection]

He's a long dead character, who had no reason to be relevant again, suddenly brought back and given a massive power up and new form, starring in his own movie. I can't believe people are getting upset that he's not also treated as a huge deal, if anything it's a good thing that they didn't go too far and make everything revolve around him in this movie.

If there was no reason for Freeza to be relevant again, this movie should not exist. But it does, unfortunately. He was apparently a huge enough deal to be brought back to life after all these years and for this movie to be titled after him so yeah... I don't think it's unreasonable to have expected something a bit more significant than what we're reading happened.

Mecha Freeza got killed quickly, but there was a good reason for that because it established the new character (Trunks) and made him into an instant badass while at the same time connecting the Namek saga to the next story arc. What purpose does Freeza's short-lived return and death in this movie serve? Does it provide anything for the future of the Dragonball series other than maybe an excuse for newly colored merchandise for Goku and Vegeta?

[Blade]

To be fair, I'm fine with Freeza just being a vehicle for plot events rather than the focus of it. To me, the latter would have been the more generic way to go.

[Saiga]

He's the most important villain in Dragon Ball i'm sorry but that quantifies to being a big deal.

No, it really doesn't. He wasn't a big deal at the start of the Android arc, or in the Boo arc, or anything in the real-time years since his defeat on Namek. And most important villain in Dragon Ball? Highly debatable. Dragon Ball is arc based, so that doesn't even mean that much anyway. Everybody is a big deal in their own arc, after that they don't have much of an impact. That's the way it has always been, Freeza may have a lot of popularity but he's just another arc villain. The series moved on, so I'm really glad that even with bringing him back they didn't get stuck on him.

If there was no reason for Freeza to be relevant again, this movie should not exist. But it does, unfortunately. He was apparently a huge enough deal to be brought back to life after all these years and for this movie to be titled after him so yeah... I don't think it's unreasonable to have expected something a bit more significant than what we're reading happened.

Mecha Freeza got killed quickly, but there was a good reason for that because it established the new character (Trunks) and made him into an instant badass while at the same time connecting the Namek saga to the next story arc. What purpose does Freeza's short-lived return and death in this movie serve? Does it provide anything for the future of the Dragonball series other than maybe an excuse for newly colored merchandise for Goku and Vegeta?

Well, by not focusing as much on Freeza there is more focus on Goku/Vegeta who will take their development into future movies.

I think bringing Freeza back at all is a bad idea, so I'm not saying this was the best thing to do. But I do think it's much better than making him the main focus of the plot. I agree with Blade, that'd feel pretty generic.

[RandomGuy96]

Did 18 do anything noticeable besides that line? Did she fight like she said in the blog she would?

She said she would, but Krillin tells her to take care of Maron and leaves her. She doesn't appear again after that.

"Stay in the kitchen, woman" - Kuririn

"So manly" - 18

D'awwwwwww

I'm not surprised - many predicted this, including myself - but god damn that's still really disappointing. I was hoping a tender moment would involve 18 actually getting involved, she's never actually fought on the good side before.

If 18's part is as kei17 presents it, and I have no reason to doubt him/her, then this movie just crossed the line from "bland, illogical, and bad" to "bland, illogical, and insultingly bad". It makes no sense at all from an in-universe point of view, since 18 is like a hundred times stronger than Krillin, and is supposed to be the dominant one in the relationship to begin with. I see no reason for her to stay back; it's even less logical than Goten, Trunks, and Buu staying out of it, even though they're all stronger than her.

Like, I'm not one to accuse someone of sexism at the drop of a hat, but some of Toriyama's recent material is very questionable in that regard. First, the only females in BOG served to get slapped or carry babies. Then, Goku's mom is revealed in DBM to be the complete opposite of every other saiyan we've seen, and also a useless weakling who was sent to work in the kitchen because she was such a load in combat that not even her husband wanted her on the team. Now, the strongest female character in the cast, who also happens to be stronger than many of the male characters that actually showed up, has to sit the movie out, because her much weaker husband told her to watch the kid. Finally, her response to being told to stay in the kitchen while her husband goes out to do stuff is a completely OOC "he's so cool". It's just suspicious, that's all.

[Low Tone G]

To be fair, I'm fine with Freeza just being a vehicle for plot events rather than the focus of it. To me, the latter would have been the more generic way to go.

I agree, but really... It would have been way better to have Freeza being an tiny obstacle to introduce some other foes, who are really dangerous... for example an evil version of Whis from other universe, or from Universe 7, but from distant past, or distant future....

[SSJGFrieza]

Even Cooler's Revenge and the first Broly movie are better than this garbage.

[sintzu]

Even Cooler's Revenge and the first Broly movie are better than this garbage.

I understand not liking somethings about it but to say it's worse then a Toie movie is a little much.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Even Cooler's Revenge and the first Broly movie are better than this garbage.

Right, because you have seen the movie?

[RandomGuy96]

Even Cooler's Revenge and the first Broly movie are better than this garbage.

Right, because you have seen the movie?

I have no idea why this keeps being used as an argument. You can dislike something without seeing it just based on information. For example, if I dislike the general premise of bringing Freeza back and sidelining everybody except Goku and Vegeta, that's grounds enough for me to dislike this movie, regardless of whatever else happens.