Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[SSJGFrieza]

If people who actually enjoyed the yawnfest that was battle of gods hate this, then that's how I know I'll enjoy it.

Except Battle of Gods shit on F

If you want a movie with a shitty story and brainless boring fights you might as well watch the original movies.

[TheGmGoken]

If people who actually enjoyed the yawnfest that was battle of gods hate this, then that's how I know I'll enjoy it.

Except Battle of Gods shit on F

You haven't seen the movie. Just a quick summary.

[SSJGFrieza]

If people who actually enjoyed the yawnfest that was battle of gods hate this, then that's how I know I'll enjoy it.

Except Battle of Gods shit on F

You haven't seen the movie. Just a quick summary.

And that's enough

[Mystic Tien]

-M.Roshi,Krillin,Tenshinhan,Gohan,Piccolo getting some love

And Yamcha, Goten, Trunks, Buu, Chiaotzu and Yajirobe getting none at all

-We get to know a little more about Whis

Which still doesn't answer any of my questions about him, and only creates new ones

-Frieza revived ever since DB and DBZ anime was released Freeza had always been one of the best arch enemy the franchise had (at least for me)

Was beaten like some kind of a joke by a single Kamehameha.

-Goku probably getting some character development due to being the only one retaining his memory of the disaster that happened cuz of his naivety
anyways my point is I hope we all just take what we get and still support the franchise, who knows this may just be the opening for something new.

This is good, agreed. I hope that at least Vegeta tried to protect Earth this time, and not just fighting for the sake of his pride.

[Vegitofaxx]

Dragon Ball has never had any huge, brilliant plot twists or foreshadowing or anything like that. It has always followed a pretty simple formula as does this movie. I'm not sure what any of you were expecting to be quite honest here.

Spoiler:

Oolong asks if Goku is some kind of space alien.

Do you honestly think that was intended foreshadowing?

Trunks is son of Bulma and Vegeta,

Not so much plot-twist or foreshadowing.

the original timeline being destroyed by Androids,

Previous answer

Kami and Piccolo fusing themselves being brought up on Namek,

Maybe we can give Toriyama this one

[Lord Beerus]

You haven't seen the movie. Just a quick summary.

And that's enough

A quick summary of a film is never the right way to judge it.

[TheGmGoken]

If people who actually enjoyed the yawnfest that was battle of gods hate this, then that's how I know I'll enjoy it.

Except Battle of Gods shit on F

If you want a movie with a shitty story and brainless boring fights you might as well watch the original movies.

I'll probably get more opinions once I see it but, so far as I can tell. BoG was too gaggy while F is too action. It's a good balance needed. Also BoG had Goten. It's only advantage so far over F. But we shall see!

[Ajay]

And that's enough

No, it really is not. For one, we don't actually have a comprehensive summary of the film yet. Sparse anecdotes and Google Translated hearsay do not count.

Secondly, a film is not just its narrative. You have no idea how much you'll enjoy the setpieces, the voice acting, the comedy, and all the other parts that make up a film.

I refuse to believe you have not walked away from a film, at least once, thinking, "hey, that might not have had a flawless plot, but damn, it was a very enjoyable watch".

Until you see it, you had no idea how it works as a complete film. To think otherwise is absolutely absurd.

[Mystic Tien]

Do you honestly think that was intended foreshadowing?

In anime it was. Because the robot clearly detected Goku being an alien hence from that moment it was established in anime that Goku was an alien without anyone actually saying that, which was revealed by Raditz only in the beginning of Z.

Not so much plot-twist or foreshadowing.

It was a good and unexpected plot-twist, because basically nothing hinted at Vegeta pairing up with Bulma, her boyfriend was Yamcha the whole time.

the original timeline being destroyed by Androids,

It was a good plot twist as well, just like Krillin dying in Piccolo Daimao arc, it was totally unexpected, yet has shown us some real connection with previous Dragon Ball arcs. When we thought everything become good, everything turned into a complete chaos.

Maybe we can give Toriyama this one

Yeah

[Lord Beerus]

And that's enough

No, it really is not. For one, we don't actually have a comprehensive summary of the film yet. Sparse anecdotes and Google Translated hearsay do not count.

Secondly, a film is not just its narrative. You have no idea how much you'll enjoy the setpieces, the voice acting, the comedy, and all the other parts that make up a film.

I refuse to believe you have not walked away from a film, at least once, thinking, "hey, that might not have had a flawless plot, but damn, it was a very enjoyable watch".

Until you see it, you had no idea how it works as a complete film. To think otherwise is absolutely absurd.

You summed it up perfectly, AjayLikesGaming.

Even if Resurrection F may not be heavy on plot or exposition, if I immensely enjoy it as spectacle, than that's a pretty good film in my book. Kinda like Fusion Reborn. Maybe thinly plotted but it makes for the lack of a real plot in every other department.

[snaku]

And that's enough

No, it really is not. For one, we don't actually have a comprehensive summary of the film yet. Sparse anecdotes and Google Translated hearsay do not count.

Secondly, a film is not just its narrative. You have no idea how much you'll enjoy the setpieces, the voice acting, the comedy, and all the other parts that make up a film.

I refuse to believe you have not walked away from a film, at least once, thinking, "hey, that might not have had a flawless plot, but damn, it was a very enjoyable watch".

Until you see it, you had no idea how it works as a complete film. To think otherwise is absolutely absurd.

Exactly. If I were to read a brief synopsis of 2001: A Space Odyssey, I'd probably write it off as completely stupid, yet it's one of the greatest cinematic experiences in film history. I'm not saying FnF is comparable to Kubrick in any way, just that you have no idea what impact a film can have on you until you've actually experienced it. These baseless hyperbolic posts trashing a film that the writer hasn't even seen yet are really dragging down the discussion.

[Valerius Dover]

Well, this thread has beaten all records, hasn't it?

Kei17, it was nice reading those thoughts! I'm maybe a little disappointed that they've more or less gone back to the formula present in the majority of the others, but since I enjoyed them (yes, even Bio-Broly) but I'm sure I'll still enjoy this 90 minute romp!

[Mystic Tien]

him coming back just be killed to be off again was stupid and pointless

Again, though. What were you expecting?

There's absolutely no other ending for a character like Freeza. Keeping him alive, making him a recurring villain, etc. Nothing else does the character justice, and the premise doesn't warrant anything more than what Kei said we got. We got to have one last story with Dragon Ball's most popular villain.

Vegeta was given the second chance, and became one of the most developed characters in the whole Dragon Ball franchise.

[Doctor.]

You don't have to have seen the film to say you're disappointed with it or think the movie's premise and plot is garbage or not. Sure it's gonna be enjoyable, all Dragon Ball material is, but that doesn't mean we can't say it's bad from all the info we've heard so far.

[Mystic Tien]

Like, I'm not one to accuse someone of sexism at the drop of a hat, but some of Toriyama's recent material is very questionable in that regard. First, the only females in BOG served to get slapped or carry babies.

You also forgot that Videl was shot, just shows how much Toriyama cares about female characters in his series.

[Vegitofaxx]

I really look forward to hearing the dub. I know i may be in a minority round' these parts, but i do think it's really good nowadays. Love me some Chris Ayers, will be a crime if he doesn't return.

Like, I'm not one to accuse someone of sexism at the drop of a hat, but some of Toriyama's recent material is very questionable in that regard. First, the only females in BOG served to get slapped or carry babies.

Why do you think Chi-Chi was around? For Character development? No. For her womb.

[Mystic Tien]

Besides you guys don't feel kinda bad about knowing such story spoilers? I said before that I would not come to this thread when these come to light, but I was consumed by my curiosity

It would be better to be surprised when watching in theaters, though

Nah, even after the summary, we'll still not get a lot of small details, besides one thing is reading a summary, and the other is watching the movie by yourself. Completely different experiences. To be honest, there weren't much things (from what we got from spoilers) to be surprised anyway. A lot of people predicted Whis using time rewind when 2nd chapter of FnF manga was revealed. A lot of people expected Goku to win, and Vegeta putting up a good fight. A lot of people expected Freeza destroying the Earth (heck, it was shown in the trailer) and being beaten by Goku again, with him maybe somehow even surviving after that. I personally expected to see someone from Jaco in this movie, and there was a fake art of Tights from FnF flowing around here quite a time ago. So nothing much to be surprised about so far

Well I can agree with that... But I would expect a better ending for Freeza, if he only was brought back to be killed again why bring back he anyway?

As said several times in this thread, a movie about the new introduced universes concept and with a new antagonist would be far better than that, for sure

Well, I agree with you. I'd rather have Frieza staying alive than pointlessly dying accomplishing nothing. I still don't understand what was the point of a movie anyway. I still hope that at least something about Whis was revealed, even if a bit. This is what interests me the most.

[BlackCatScott]

It's amazing how people can come to an absolute conclusion on a film by reading a short summary from one or two people, without seeing for themselves how it plays out. Personally I think the Dragon Ball fanbase is very hard to please because everyone seems to want something different from the content.

[Ajay]

You don't have to have seen the film to say you're disappointed with it or think the movie's premise and plot is garbage or not. Sure it's gonna be enjoyable, all Dragon Ball material is, but that doesn't mean we can't say it's bad from all the info we've heard so far.

You can say as much as you want about what it sounds like. You can say you think it sounds worse than Battle of Gods. However, you absolutely cannot sit there and state adamantly that the film overall is worse or better because you have not experienced it yet.

Reading someone's plot summary is not the same as experiencing the story as it was intended to be told. Man, can you imagine reading a plot summary of The Hobbit and deciding you didn't need to read the book now because you'd already adamantly formed your opinion on it?!

I'm apprehensive about the film. I am genuinely worried about the lack of enticing narrative, but I am not sat here passing off the film, because I am not silly enough to believe anything I say is at all valid at this point.

[Mystic Tien]

Hey Kei17! Only thing I'm curious right now is if Lord Beerus and Freeza exchange words with eachother?! Thanks that would be all

Freeza notices Beerus and calls him Beerus-sama with a surprised and scared face, but he gives Beerus some mouth and shows a confident attitude.

So they met before after all... Then why Beerus just didn't kill him with his own hands? Wasn't it exactly what he said in BoG? I quote it: "He's so self-important. The next time I see him, I think I might destroy him, too."

Beerus looks ike a big liar now.