Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Doctor.]

Movie seems like a generic Toei movie, mediocre at best, terrible at worst. Toriyama or no Toriyama, this really is underwhelming and a slap in the face to Freeza's character. To Piccolo and Gohan, too.

[RandomGuy96]

On Gohan's defense, I think the guy never trained again unlike Goku and Vegeta. I mean they do get weaker when they dont maintain their training as stated by Vegeta while Gohan was fighting with Dabura, that he was stronger as a kid. I wouldnt blame Gohan tho, unlike Goku he actually works and lives like a human + with a wife like Videl I would understand him not wanting to train

It shouldn't make him significantly weaker. Daimao didn't train for 300 years and had his body decay into that of a geezer's, and he barely lost any power. He especially shouldn't be randomly losing a power-up with no explanation.

[Low Tone G]

Yeah... story wise the film is very weak, but I think visually will earn young children. I don't know why but I'm expecting more, even if there wasn't any cliffhanger. But not explaining Freeza's huge improvement it over-the-top disgusting.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I don't see anything that seems like a slap to any character's...er, character...as it were. It sounds like everyone's pretty much in character - though I do question the bit where

Spoiler:

Freeza seems to think Vegeta still has some loyalty to him

- but overall, it's not anything disrespectful to any of the characters that bothers me.

I think I really just got myself set up for something super amazing, when this all just kinda sorta sounds 'okay'.

[VegettoEX]

Actively deleting one-liners, 4chan-style posts, and strength comparisons

(...the latter-most of which you're free to bring up over in the appropriate thread).

[Makaioshin]

Thanks for summary.
I've always been a bit disappointed with Freeza's demise at the hands of Future Trunks. I haven't seen the film yet but I look forward to saying goodbye to the character one last time until they bring him back again. Also I'm really, really glad there wasn't some cliffhanger ending like fans suggested.
RIP Freeza 2015-2015

Spoiler:

Freeza eyes Gohan and knocks him down with a single blast. Kuririn panics when he realize that Gohan has no pulse. There’s no way for him to eat a senzu like this, either…! Piccolo uses a kiai as a form of chest-compression which gets Gohan’s heart beating and enables him to down the second-to-last senzu.

Wow!

I guess Toriyama must have liked one idea from Dragon Ball Evolution.

[Zephyr]

Sounds alright. Not quite as hyped as I was before and it sounds like they could have done a lot more with a Freeza revival film, but from the sound of it character moments and interactions look to still be top notch. Honestly, that's always been one of Dragon Ball's biggest strengths. Consistency and logic? Not so much.

That's why it's so great to have Toriyama doing shit again.

[Doctor.]

I don't see anything that seems like a slap to any character's...er, character...as it were. It sounds like everyone's pretty much in character - though I do question the bit where

Spoiler:

Freeza seems to think Vegeta still has some loyalty to him

- but overall, it's not anything disrespectful to any of the characters that bothers me.

I think I really just got myself set up for something super amazing, when this all just kinda sorta sounds 'okay'.

He was revived, got a poorly written power-up with no explanation, got completely shut down by Goku TWICE, then shut down by Vegeta, and then immediately vaporized. What did he do that was worthwhile? Almost kill Gohan? Blow up Earth, even though it was restored 3 minutes later? He died accomplishing absolutely nothing, he was treated as a toy and was nothing more than a training exercise. That's hugely disrespecting his character. Not as much as Toei filler did, of course not, but still.

[fadeddreams5]

Goku says it’s hard to explain, but basically it’s Super Saiyan with the power of Super Saiyan God.

This confirms that the new SSJ form, which I shall call Infused Super Saiyan (iSSJ) for a lack of a better name, is exactly as strong as SSJG. So basically, whenever Goku goes SSJ now, he taps into his SSJG powers instead. I assume SSJ2 and SSJ3 would also have blue hair, but wouldn't really increase his strength or speed at all.

Only Beerus, Whis, and those near them survive the destruction, thanks to Whis’ barrier.

I assume this means Frieza also died? So basically, he never won, just committed Kamikaze in a fit of rage?

Freeza eyes Gohan and knocks him down with a single blast. Kuririn panics when he realize that Gohan has no pulse. There’s no way for him to eat a senzu like this, either…! Piccolo uses a kiai as a form of chest-compression which gets Gohan’s heart beating and enables him to down the second-to-last senzu.

If Gohan was ultimate, this would actually be an incredible feat. Unfortunately, I don't think Gohan is even as strong as he was when he fought Cell here, considering he only THINKS he can become a regular SSJ before he does. Kind of sad.

As for the rest, it seems Frieza never really stood a chance. Poor bastard. Goku and Vegeta have reached an unprecedented level of strength. Then there's Beerus and Whis too. Really, the only chance they have at a challenge is fighting the other gods of destruction. All of EoZ really does seem pointless now. Uub now has to be god level to be relevant, which really calls for good story development to not make it contrived bs.

[SansrivaaL]

On Gohan's defense, I think the guy never trained again unlike Goku and Vegeta. I mean they do get weaker when they dont maintain their training as stated by Vegeta while Gohan was fighting with Dabura, that he was stronger as a kid. I wouldnt blame Gohan tho, unlike Goku he actually works and lives like a human + with a wife like Videl I would understand him not wanting to train

It shouldn't make him significantly weaker. Daimao didn't train for 300 years and had his body decay into that of a geezer's, and he barely lost any power. He especially shouldn't be randomly losing a power-up with no explanation.

Maybe bcuz ''saiyans'' get weaker when they dont train, the explanation is he got weaker due to not training + blame chichi, Gohan liked to train as a kid but after Goku died Chichi probably forced Gohan into studying all the time making him get the nerdy attitude he has, I personally have no problem with what he has become, if he trains again then he would be the one 1 hitting Frieza.

[MajinVegetaSSj6]

I like the summary! Looks like It will be a fun movie. Vegeta Super Saiyan God! Yes! Cant wait.

[Vidmusc]

After reading the summary, I feel a bit better about the movie than I was feeling yesterday. I do question whether or not we get a new Dragon Ball movie after this though. Because the ending doesn't exactly seem to set up to anything. But who knows, maybe we will get something. Only time will tell.

[Birusu16]

So it looks like Goku and Vegeta were both far stronger than Freeza. That really makes you wonder why they even bothered bringing him back.

[ZombieVito]

I have to be honest here. The film seems completely disappointing.

[Low Tone G]

After reading the summary, I feel a bit better about the movie than I was feeling yesterday. I do question whether or not we get a new Dragon Ball movie after this though. Because the ending doesn't exactly seem to set up to anything. But who knows, maybe we will get something. Only time will tell.

I think we will.... I don't really know how to explain, but now I'm feeling that Toriyama will make a one last movie(I really hope no he will think of a good story instead of pure action and comedy).

[MajinVegetaSSj6]

And i dont get why some are saying that Vegeta was scared of fight Frieza. Its Clear that he and Goku are both way stronger than Golden Frieza.

[SaiyanBaller22]

Thank you Kanzenshuu for the summary!

However after reading the summary, I'm surprised to see how Gohan and even Piccolo got so much weaker. I mean how is it that Piccolo is losing to Shisami, who is on par with the likes of Zarbon and Dodoria? It doesnt make sense, after Piccolo fused with Kami he ascended past a Super Saiyan level, yet he loses to someone weaker than a Super Saiyan?

[Kamiccolo9]

And i dont get why some are saying that Vegeta was scared of fight Freeza. Its Clear that he and Goku are both way stronger than Golden Freeza.

Because it clearly says that Vegeta was nervous about fighting Freeza, and passed the buck to Goku.

[fadeddreams5]

I feel these movies are building up to something though.

The first one introduced the god of destruction, Whis, and revealed the existence of the other universes. Goku also attained a new power which Vegeta also acquired off-screen.

This movie was like the "training" movie, in which Goku and Vegeta hone their previously acquired powers, and are trained by Whis and lectured by him. When they don't listen to his lessons, especially the one on teamwork, they pay the price. Frieza was just a big training exercise for both of them, which has hopefully made them mentally stronger.

All that's left are movies that put everything they've learned to the test. A movie with REAL threats--not some frenemy god or weaker old enemy. I feel that's what Toriyama envisions. Maybe that was the point of this sequel movie, but he didn't know how to go about making something based on training. When he heard the F song, he figured it'd be a good idea to just bring Frieza back to fill up the rest of the movie. =P

[Sandubadear]

Sasuga Gohan. Died TWICE in the same movie!