Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Mewzard]

Too bad that he was too scared to fight Golden Freeza at full strength, and passed the buck to Goku.

Seriously, it's like people are purposefully blocking that part out.

So yeah, if you're really looking forward to Vegeta taken on an exhausted Freeza after being too scared to fight a fresh one, and still getting outplayed, then yeah, go ahead and knock yourself out. But let's not pretend like what we've been told is anything resembling a good showing for Vegeta.

But was it stated he was scared of Freeza? His reaction might have been for another reason than fear. He could have just realized it was Goku's fight, that Freeza didn't see him in the grand scheme of things.

[Kamiccolo9]

Too bad that he was too scared to fight Golden Freeza at full strength, and passed the buck to Goku.

Seriously, it's like people are purposefully blocking that part out.

So yeah, if you're really looking forward to Vegeta taken on an exhausted Freeza after being too scared to fight a fresh one, and still getting outplayed, then yeah, go ahead and knock yourself out. But let's not pretend like what we've been told is anything resembling a good showing for Vegeta.

But was it stated he was scared of Freeza? His reaction might have been for another reason than fear. He could have just realized it was Goku's fight, that Freeza didn't see him in the grand scheme of things.

It says that Freeza transformed, Vegeta got nervous, and told Goku that it was his fight. I would agree with you if not for the "he got nervous" part.

[UpFromTheSkies]

Oh, SNAP! Just read the official review, and MAN am I friggin' happy right now.

Seeing that Vegeta was about to deal the final blow, and that he got to beat the living SHITAKE out of Freeza until he shriveled back down into his fourth form beforehand, aw MAN. This is just too good. I always wanted to see Vegeta get to beat the crap out of Freeza, and even though he didn't get to *kill* Freeza, revenge was served. With lack of a complex storyline aside, I am totally getting my butt into a theater to witness this badassery. THAT'S my Prince.

Too bad that he was too scared to fight Golden Freeza at full strength, and passed the buck to Goku.

Seriously, it's like people are purposefully blocking that part out.

So yeah, if you're really looking forward to Vegeta taken on an exhausted Freeza after being too scared to fight a fresh one, and still getting outplayed, then yeah, go ahead and knock yourself out. But let's not pretend like what we've been told is anything resembling a good showing for Vegeta.

I wouldn't say he was exhausted if he still had his golden form.

[MagicBox]

IIRC, his line was "Shisami and Tagoma are competent soldiers who can rank with Zarbon and Dodoria." So, "competent" can refer to their abilities other than strength, such as loyalties and leadership.

Ah, gotcha. Thanks for the additional context! That makes much more sense.

I don't think it's really that strange that Freeza remembers the group. From the way the summary is worded, it sounds like Kuririn is the one that Freeza recognizes. And let's not forget that Kuririn was the first person to ever truly cause Freeza any significant harm (by cutting off his tail). I'd remember a guy like that.

[kei17]

- How could Gohan possibly be so weak as to DIE from a single Freeza ki blast? And this was even before the golden powerup...

To be fair, it was a sucker punch in his heart during a dialogue.

[Sparko33]

And just when a decent discussion gets going, the same couple of people turn on one guy who is happy about one character's showing.
I don't get you guys, you're annoyed if someone says Vegeta has to be the main character/its his turn/better than Goku omg etc. and now when a couple of people who happen to be his fans post that they were satisfied with what he got (absorbing ssg, transforming, beating freeza, saving goku) you turn on them as well to undermine what they think he accomplished. Just give it a rest, can't you see that you guys are the recent cause of this debate that won't die?

To be honest, no one in this movie got a legit 'win', so I think neither Goku nor Vegeta fans have anything to be thoroughly happy about. Aren't we taking into consideration that Goku came out of the blue when he went back in time and after a senzu bean blasted an off guard Freeza when he was about to be beaten by Vegeta? Strong bias alert.

[Gyt Kaliba]

And let's not forget that Kuririn was the first person to ever truly cause Freeza any significant harm (by cutting off his tail). I'd remember a guy like that.

Especially when said guy is also considerably weaker than you overall - that would put it in your memory all the more, especially for someone as unused to being disgraced as Freeza was.

[MagicBox]

Does Bulma make any mention of the fact that she's seeing Freeza for the first time?

Or does she just immediately start yelling at him?

[Rozay]

Thanks for the summary, guys! I really like the fact that Freeza, on a one-on-one fight, wouldn't be able to beat neither Goku or Vegeta. To me, that makes the 4 months thing OK. Not ideal, but OK. As it seems he gets really powerful but doesn't actually reach divine realm, or does not do it consistently. It reeks of Trunks' Ascended form actually having the "battle power" to compete with Perfect Cell, but not seeing things through and the other disadvantages he had. It's an emphasis on technique, and that's a good thing to have, as Dragon Ball can get lost solely on pure power from time to time.

From the summary, I like the movie. Things could have been better explained, I would like a background on the new transformations, especially how Vegeta gets it, and Freeza's training, and also another recoloring for the Super Saiyan God doesn't entice me. A cliffhanger would be really necessary, since this is mostly a standalone piece of fan service, and Freeza could have found a way to survive. Those are my critiques and they still stand. But it really seems like the movie points towards something with Whis noting on Goku and Vegeta's training that Vegeta is too slow and Goku, too relaxed, and that costs them in the fight.

I'm not overwhelmed, but I'm satisfied by the movie, as per summary.

Oh yeah, but Piccolo taking that punch from a guy with Zarbon/Dodoria power is pure garbage. I hope he too got relaxed and that lead him to being seriously hit.

[Dbzk1999]

From the summary, it appears that vegeta gave freeza the "gohan treatment"
Beat them down so badly they start to regress

[Birusu16]

And just when a decent discussion gets going, the same couple of people turn on one guy who is happy about one character's showing.
I don't get you guys, you're annoyed if someone says Vegeta has to be the main character/its his turn/better than Goku omg etc. and now when a couple of people who happen to be his fans post that they were satisfied with what he got (absorbing ssg, transforming, beating freeza, saving goku) you turn on them as well to undermine what they think he accomplished. Just give it a rest, can't you see that you guys are the recent cause of this debate that won't die?

To be honest, no one in this movie got a legit 'win', so I think neither Goku nor Vegeta fans have anything to be thoroughly happy about. Aren't we taking into consideration that Goku came out of the blue when he went back in time and after a senzu bean blasted an off guard Freeza when he was about to be beaten by Vegeta? Strong bias alert.

Ignore them. It's the same 3 people who've been doing it since the spoilers first came out. All they're doing is trying to bait Vegeta fans because they're mad some fans were overenthusiastic about Vegeta's potential role in this movie, which honestly makes me question their maturity.

[TheGmGoken]

Oh, SNAP! Just read the official review, and MAN am I friggin' happy right now.

Seeing that Vegeta was about to deal the final blow, and that he got to beat the living SHITAKE out of Freeza until he shriveled back down into his fourth form beforehand, aw MAN. This is just too good. I always wanted to see Vegeta get to beat the crap out of Freeza, and even though he didn't get to *kill* Freeza, revenge was served. With lack of a complex storyline aside, I am totally getting my butt into a theater to witness this badassery. THAT'S my Prince.

Too bad that he was too scared to fight Golden Freeza at full strength, and passed the buck to Goku.

Seriously, it's like people are purposefully blocking that part out.

So yeah, if you're really looking forward to Vegeta taken on an exhausted Freeza after being too scared to fight a fresh one, and still getting outplayed, then yeah, go ahead and knock yourself out. But let's not pretend like what we've been told is anything resembling a good showing for Vegeta.

All I give credit is that he at least got uber powerful like Goku, and got to fight the main bad guy and beat his ass. That's about it. He has it better than the others who aren't Goku, but really nothing he did sounds badass at all. His Gohan wannabe LOLRAGETA boost sounds more badass than him in this movie.

It adds up. Vegeta took Gohan rage. Vegeta also took Gohan being afraid to fight. Vegeta is basically Kid Gohan now. Fight for family, rage, scared to fight, and just as strong as Goku! The trailers and the interviews made Vegeta's role bigger than what it seems (from summary).

How's this the worst wish though?

[ekrolo2]

I wouldn't say he was exhausted if he still had his golden form.

So what, exhausted fighters constantly keep their transformed states active unless its really taxing like SSJ3 or they're almost out of Ki.

[ShadowWolf87]

The movie sounds terrible, but a few good things did come out of it for me. Vegeta got to humiliate Freeza and more Beerus and Whis. That's all I care about.

Hopefully Akira's done. He's really dragging the DB name through the mud at this point. BoGs was decent, but this sounds like it was outright terrible. No story. Barely any character development. Mindless action. Not to mention the power levels are just all over the place. A guy as strong as Zarbon and Dodoria beats Piccolo who in turn is easily beaten by a Gohan who doesn't even know if he can go SSJ anymore? Meh, just really not my cup of tea.

Even if Gohan couldn't go SSJ anymore, there's stilla huge chance he'd be far stronger than anyone on Zarbon's level.

But kei said that Sorbet didn't say he was the same power as them.

[Dbzk1999]

Oh yeah, but Piccolo taking that punch from a guy with Zarbon/Dodoria power is pure garbage. I hope he too got relaxed and that lead him to being seriously hit.

IIRC, his line was "Shisami and Tagoma are competent soldiers who can rank with Zarbon and Dodoria." So, "competent" can refer to their abilities other than strength, such as loyalties and leadership.

Just figured I might as well show you this quote Rozay

[singsing]

Yea, I'm still wondering how there was any "worst wish in history" and true "despair". I'm gonna slurp this movie up like an icee in July, but recently I just started questioning a LOT of things in everymovie...

[Tennessaiyan]

Too bad that he was too scared to fight Golden Freeza at full strength, and passed the buck to Goku.

Seriously, it's like people are purposefully blocking that part out.

So yeah, if you're really looking forward to Vegeta taken on an exhausted Freeza after being too scared to fight a fresh one, and still getting outplayed, then yeah, go ahead and knock yourself out. But let's not pretend like what we've been told is anything resembling a good showing for Vegeta.

I wouldn't say he was exhausted if he still had his golden form.

They had already agreed that Goku would go first anyway, so I'll just have to see that part for myself where Vegeta declined. It wouldn't surprise me though; it's continuity. Rememeber in BOG when Vegeta said, "For once I'm glad it's not me." Still, Vegeta ended up taking on Golden Frieza anyways, and I agree that he couldn't have powered down too much if he was still Golden.

The thing that bothers me most aside from the lack of story is that Frieza isn't a match for neither Goku or Vegeta :/

[Birusu16]

Too bad that he was too scared to fight Golden Freeza at full strength, and passed the buck to Goku.

Seriously, it's like people are purposefully blocking that part out.

So yeah, if you're really looking forward to Vegeta taken on an exhausted Freeza after being too scared to fight a fresh one, and still getting outplayed, then yeah, go ahead and knock yourself out. But let's not pretend like what we've been told is anything resembling a good showing for Vegeta.

I wouldn't say he was exhausted if he still had his golden form.

They had already agreed that Goku would go first anyway, so I'll just have to see that part for myself where Vegeta declined. It wouldn't surprise me though; it's continuity. Rememeber in BOG when Vegeta said, "For once I'm glad it's not me." Still, Vegeta ended up taking on Golden Freeza anyways, and I agree that he couldn't have powered down too much if he was still Golden.

The thing that bothers me most aside from the lack of story is that Freeza isn't a match for neither Goku or Vegeta :/

Well he actually was before his power started drastically draining.

[Kamiccolo9]

I wouldn't say he was exhausted if he still had his golden form.

So what, exhausted fighters constantly keep their transformed states active unless its really taxing like SSJ3 or they're almost out of Ki.

Goku thinks Freeza should quit while he’s ahead and go home: after all, they’ve spotted his weak point. Freeza is incredulous, but Vegeta pointedly explains that Freeza, consumed with the idea of revenge, probably came to Earth as soon as he achieved his “Golden Freeza” form. He hasn’t had time to get used to it, so it’s rapidly consuming his strength.

After holding him under water for a bit, Freeza sends a volley of energy blasts after Goku, who manages to evade or deflect them all. Finally, Freeza manages to land a solid punch directly to Goku’s face… but Goku is completely unfazed.

Finally, Goku launches a massive Kamehameha at Freeza, which he attempts to repel with a blast of his own. It is no use, however; the tyrant is utterly defeated.

All this before Vegeta jumps in to help. Freeza's lost a good portion of strength by this point.

They had already agreed that Goku would go first anyway, so I'll just have to see that part for myself where Vegeta declined.

Goku offers to let Vegeta fight now, but he nervously declines, saying that Freeza’s opponent is Kakarrot.

[EXBadguy]

How's this the worst wish though?

Cuz it's a villain that we all knew damn well is irrelevant and weak. Even after the amount of training Frieza did, he still got destroyed.

Prior to Frieza's training, Frieza was so freaking weak, that even Dumbch-... Yamcha can destroy him.