Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

Post by bubibartra » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:40 pm

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Kamiccolo9 wrote: But none of that explains why Vegeta would be nervous. If what you said were the case, I can see Vegeta being frustrated, irritated, or even amused. But the summary says nervous.
the same summary says that Beerus considers it a matter of pride that Vegeta not fight with Goku, but your only consider the word "nervous" ignoring the rest of the summary....
Because the two aren't mutually exclusive. It can be both a matter of pride and fear. One doesn't exclude the other.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:42 pm

bubibartra wrote: Yes, if it is Vegeta.
That doesn't make any sense. Pride and Fear are not mutually exclusive. And if you're holding Vegeta to a different standard than everyone else, well, that just proves the point I've been making all along.

As for Vegeta's fight, Yamcha did the exact same thing to the Saibaiman in the Saiyan Arc, with the exact same result as Vegeta vs Freeza here. Yet Vegeta is considered to be a badass, while Yamcha is considered pathetic? Please, explain that to me.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:44 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Oh my God, I just realized it. Vegeta got Yamcha'd, with Freeza playing the part of the Saibaiman. :lol:
And that went right into my signature. Bravo good sir. It's so true. This is exactly like the Yamcha vs Saibaman fight.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

Post by sintzu » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:47 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Yamcha did the exact same thing to the Saibaiman in the Saiyan Arc, with the exact same result as Vegeta vs Freeza here.
Vegeta was killed by the lack of air while Yamcha was killed by his opponent.
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Post by SansrivaaL » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:47 pm

Low Tone G wrote:I'm seeing people shocked that Vegeta didn't accept Goku's offer to fight Freeza first. But people, do you remember Vegeta's Japanese voice to say that Vegeta is only concerned by Goku not by Freeza(not that it could jutify anything, but it seems in-character for Vegeta). And maybe Vegeta knew that Freeza is not a matched foe for him as he knew his power. I'm speculating, but Vegeta's aim has always been Goku and no other else.
Vegeta was never the guy to back out a fight even if the fight is not with Goku, we saw him edgy to fight Cell and told Goku that he will enter the hyperbolic chamber first, we also saw him and Goku fight on who goes first to fight kid buu, why is Frieza an exception? he just got plain nervous since his master is back, its as simple as that.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:48 pm

sintzu wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Yamcha did the exact same thing to the Saibaiman in the Saiyan Arc, with the exact same result as Vegeta vs Freeza here.
Vegeta was killed by the lack of air while Yamcha was killed by his opponent.
And what caused the lack of air, Sinzu. Seriously.
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Post by bubibartra » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:50 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
bubibartra wrote: Yes, if it is Vegeta.
That doesn't make any sense. Pride and Fear are not mutually exclusive. And if you're holding Vegeta to a different standard than everyone else, well, that just proves the point I've been making all along.

As for Vegeta's fight, Yamcha did the exact same thing to the Saibaiman in the Saiyan Arc, with the exact same result as Vegeta vs Freeza here. Yet Vegeta is considered to be a badass, while Yamcha is considered pathetic? Please, explain that to me.

we all know that freezer golden form = saibaiman
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:53 pm

bubibartra wrote:
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bubibartra wrote: Yes, if it is Vegeta.
That doesn't make any sense. Pride and Fear are not mutually exclusive. And if you're holding Vegeta to a different standard than everyone else, well, that just proves the point I've been making all along.

As for Vegeta's fight, Yamcha did the exact same thing to the Saibaiman in the Saiyan Arc, with the exact same result as Vegeta vs Freeza here. Yet Vegeta is considered to be a badass, while Yamcha is considered pathetic? Please, explain that to me.

we all know that freezer golden form = saibaiman
haters vegeta :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
In terms of how the fight went, yeah, pretty much.

And way to attack me instead of my argument. That's a great way of making a point.
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Post by Sparko33 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:55 pm

Its like they constantly refresh the thread awaiting someone to say something positive about Vegeta so that they can get back at him lol almost impressive as it seems they don't have anything better to do and fail to contribute whatsoever.

Only 2 people on this forum have seen the movie so far and they haven't commented on this situation, so I'd refrain from making any assumptions until we see it play out.

Keep on refreshin' ;)

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:57 pm

Sparko33 wrote:Its like they constantly refresh the thread awaiting someone to say something positive about Vegeta so that they can get back at him lol almost impressive as it seems they don't have anything better to do and fail to contribute whatsoever.

Only 2 people on this forum have seen the movie so far and they haven't commented on this situation, so I'd refrain from making any assumptions until we see it play out.

Keep on refreshin' ;)
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Bashing the movie is ok if you haven't seen it.
Bashing Toriyama is ok.
Proclaiming "facts" about the movie for months with no evidence is ok.
Bashing people for bashing the movie when they haven't seen it is ok.

But criticizing Vegeta for his actions as described in a detailed summary by someone fluent in Japanese who has seen the movie is GOING TOO FAR!
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

Post by Skar » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:59 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:As for Vegeta's fight, Yamcha did the exact same thing to the Saibaiman in the Saiyan Arc, with the exact same result as Vegeta vs Freeza here. Yet Vegeta is considered to be a badass, while Yamcha is considered pathetic? Please, explain that to me.
But Yamcha was defeated by someone with the equivalent power level of Raditz! I guess the difference is that Yamcha lost to a henchmen while the same situation happened with Vegeta against the main villain. In the end they both failed but Vegeta's failure was more dramatic with the whole planet having to explode for him to lose. It kinda reminds me of this...
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

Post by Sparko33 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:01 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Sparko33 wrote:Its like they constantly refresh the thread awaiting someone to say something positive about Vegeta so that they can get back at him lol almost impressive as it seems they don't have anything better to do and fail to contribute whatsoever.

Only 2 people on this forum have seen the movie so far and they haven't commented on this situation, so I'd refrain from making any assumptions until we see it play out.

Keep on refreshin' ;)
So...
Bashing the movie is ok if you haven't seen it.
Bashing Toriyama is ok.
Proclaiming "facts" about the movie for months with no evidence is ok.
Bashing people for bashing the movie when they haven't seen it is ok.

But criticizing Vegeta for his actions as described in a detailed summary by someone fluent in Japanese who has seen the movie is GOING TOO FAR!
Your arguments are quite poor for a 24 year old to be honest. You can check my posts and I've always added something to the discussion, while you and your fellow 'haters' (for lack of a better word) seem to spill the same boring theories and negativity, but anywho.

I didn't bash the movie, I didn't bash Toriyama, I didn't proclaim any facts so idk if you're even sure who you're targetting at this point because I never said any of the above. Its like talking to a brick wall with you three. And all I've seen you do is bring up the same points targetting the same character (probably because your character was a no show in this move and many others)
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:01 pm

sintzu wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Yamcha did the exact same thing to the Saibaiman in the Saiyan Arc, with the exact same result as Vegeta vs Freeza here.
Vegeta was killed by the lack of air while Yamcha was killed by his opponent.
Freeza killed Vegeta. He blew up the Earth causing Vegeta to die due to lack of energy. If I throw someone to the deep side of the pool. Cover the pool up and they drown. They died due to lack of air and drowning. But I killed him.
Its like talking to a brick wall with you three.

Not sure who the 3 are. But Kamicollo is using the summary to explain Vegeta role. Nothing wrong with that.
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Post by sintzu » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:01 pm

Sparko33 wrote:
Only 2 people on this forum have seen the movie so far and they haven't commented on this situation.
Julian who saw the movie said he really shined.

https://twitter.com/saiyajedi/status/582546968070598656

Yet for some reason there are people trying to argue that he didn't.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:02 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Oh my God, I just realized it. Vegeta got Yamcha'd, with Freeza playing the part of the Saibaiman. :lol:
Holy shit, Kamiccolo9. That is so on the money. That is pretty much what happened in the movie. :)

I still want to see how it played out though.
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Post by batistabus » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:02 pm

Doctor. wrote:Personal changes I’d make to the movie, based on the synopsis:
Not trying to sound pretentious by saying I could write a better movie than Toriyama
There is too much here I disagree with, so I'll just address you're first and last point.

You would like 10K or 100K members of Freeza's army to show up and fight. Okay, but that's much easier said than done. Someone needs to draw and animate these soldiers. This is a completely unrealistic expectation. Even from an in-universe perspective, Freeza was confident in his new form, so in his eyes, it would be pointless to bring that many soldiers. And that's also assuming that there would even be 10,000 solders who haven't abandoned the army. 1,000 was enough of a statement.

The ending you proposed would be interesting enough, but Toriyama would NEVER write something like that. It is far too grim, and an insane burden to put on such a light-hearted character. Whis is NOT trying to teach Goku a lesson in morality or maturity, he is training him to be a better fighter.

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Post by Lord Frieza » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:02 pm

Oh God the Vegeta fans have been infected with Broly Disease! :sick:

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:03 pm

Exactly. Seriously, this double standard when it comes to Vegeta is ridiculous. I mean, my favorite character is Piccolo, but you don't see me trying to weasel out of saying that he got manhandled by a guy that's possibly on Zarbon's level.
Sparko33 wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Sparko33 wrote:Its like they constantly refresh the thread awaiting someone to say something positive about Vegeta so that they can get back at him lol almost impressive as it seems they don't have anything better to do and fail to contribute whatsoever.

Only 2 people on this forum have seen the movie so far and they haven't commented on this situation, so I'd refrain from making any assumptions until we see it play out.

Keep on refreshin' ;)
So...
Bashing the movie is ok if you haven't seen it.
Bashing Toriyama is ok.
Proclaiming "facts" about the movie for months with no evidence is ok.
Bashing people for bashing the movie when they haven't seen it is ok.

But criticizing Vegeta for his actions as described in a detailed summary by someone fluent in Japanese who has seen the movie is GOING TOO FAR!
Your arguments are quite poor for a 24 year old to be honest. You can check my posts and I've always added something to the discussion, while you and your fellow 'hater' (for lack of a better word) seem to spill the same boring theories and negativity, but anywho.

I didn't bash the movie, I didn't bash Toriyama, I didn't proclaim any facts so idk if you're even sure who you're targetting at this point because I never said any of the above. Its like talking to a brick wall with you three.
Because you are taking the argument out of context. What we are responding to has been an ongoing thing for months, which, as a new member, I'm going to assume that you are unaware of.

Your "arguments" have been against me as a person, not against the points I've been making. If you want to actually discuss this, address the points I make.
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Post by Sparko33 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:05 pm

sintzu wrote:
Sparko33 wrote:
Only 2 people on this forum have seen the movie so far and they haven't commented on this situation.
Julian who saw the movie said he really shined.

https://twitter.com/saiyajedi/status/582546968070598656

Yet for some reason there are people trying to argue that he didn't.
Was more referring to the comments where it says that Vegeta was nervous to fight Golden Freeza, when we don't really know the context yet, but I get your point. Its pointless to argue with them, even if someone has a positive approach for their character and likes the movie, they find some way to twist it into something negative. Guys need to get out more obviously.

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Post by Vegitofaxx » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:05 pm

This wasn't a wrestling match, this was a fight to the death, and Vegeta lost to Freeza. Saying Freeza didn't kill him would be like saying the gun killed the person, not the person who shot the gun.
This is really a stupid debate :lolno:
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