Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[WittyUsername]

In regards to Freeza apparently getting smacked around by Goku and Vegeta when he fights them, I have to say, that's disappointing to hear. As skeptical as I was about the idea of bringing Freeza back to life, I was at least hoping Freeza would once again be a genuine challenge for Goku and the others.

[Lord Frieza]

Ok so if a tiger tries to eat you and you got lucky and somehow killed it with a stick you grab dose that mean you didn't kill the tiger, saved your life and won a battle of life and death?

It means you got lucky and didn't die, you didn't win a fight. Also Freeza didn't live, he killed himself because he couldn't survive against Vegeta. Oh, and the compare the fight with a tiger attack it'd be more like you are getting mauled by a tiger and someone else shoots the tiger and as it is bleeding to death you kick it, that doesn't mean you beat the tiger in a fight.

Yes you did, just bad luck for the tiger. Life and death fights dont have rules kill or be killed

[Mystic Tien]

The point is Freeza got embarrassed and got his golden ass beat twice and had outside help

He only "won" when he blew up the planet which doesn't even count since Whis reversed time

Freeza is a joke in this movie and nothing more than training for Goku snd Vegeta

It counts. Everything that happened counts.

[Saiyan007]

The point is Freeza got embarrassed and got his golden ass beat twice and had outside help

He only "won" when he blew up the planet which doesn't even count since Whis reversed time

Freeza is a joke in this movie and nothing more than training for Goku snd Vegeta

Oh yes and I bet Vegeta felt that this was all just training when he was dyeing and Goku felt the same way with a hole in his chest. yep just good old training.

Funny Freeza never put a hole through Goku's chest

sorbet did and why are you bringing up events on Namek?

Freeza is a joke he couldn't beat them 1 on 1 in a fight so he ragequits but in the end he still loses

[sintzu]

No Vegeta fan should give a damn about what anybody else thinks, let alone the opinions of a bunch of egocentric Vegeta haters.

You have to admit that it's funny seeing them trying to deny the fact that Vegeta beat Freeza.

[ArchedThunder]

Ok so if a tiger tries to eat you and you got lucky and somehow killed it with a stick you grab dose that mean you didn't kill the tiger, saved your life and won a battle of life and death?

It means you got lucky and didn't die, you didn't win a fight. Also Freeza didn't live, he killed himself because he couldn't survive against Vegeta. Oh, and the compare the fight with a tiger attack it'd be more like you are getting mauled by a tiger and someone else shoots the tiger and as it is bleeding to death you kick it, that doesn't mean you beat the tiger in a fight.

Yes you did, just bad luck for the tiger. Life and death fights dont have rules kill or be killed

If someone else killed the tiger you didn't beat it, Freeza didn't inflict the moral blow to Goku. If you still die while killing the tiger you didn't win, you both died, Freeza didn't survive killing Vegeta.

[Noah]

Gohan is not badass. Never was. Never will be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPuP-V8f-pU
^{I don't think so}

I get the vibe he probably recognized that it was Goku and Freeza's fight, even if he wanted it (Freeza wanted revenge, and Goku was at the top of the list). He probably didn't want to give it up, but did so reluctantly.

I'd have to actually see the movie to say for sure though (or we can ask one of the two people on the forums who saw the movie to clarify on Vegeta's reaction, that seems fairly logical).

This makes me more relieved, I guess...

[Birusu16]

No Vegeta fan should give a damn about what anybody else thinks, let alone the opinions of a bunch of egocentric Vegeta haters.

You have to admit that it's funny seeing them trying to deny the fact that Vegeta beat Freeza.

I chuckle every time I read their posts ( ), but they don't matter to me because I know I thoroughly enjoyed his role and he kicked Freeza's ass, which is something I've been waiting to see for years.

[WittyUsername]

No Vegeta fan should give a damn about what anybody else thinks, let alone the opinions of a bunch of egocentric Vegeta haters.

You have to admit that it's funny seeing them trying to deny the fact that Vegeta beat Freeza.

Is Vegeta "beating" Freeza really the only reason some of you were looking forward to this movie?

[Lord Frieza]

Funny Freeza never put a hole through Goku's chest

sorbet did and why are you bringing up events on Namek?

Freeza is a joke he couldn't beat them 1 on 1 in a fight so he ragequits but in the end he still loses

If I'm ever looseing to some in a fight and are getting beaten to death i'll be shore to tell my friends "no its 1 on 1" and if they did help I still beat him with some help.

And if someon suicide bombs me did I kill them or they kill me? If he kills me, which was his intent, then he wins.

[rereboy]

You have to admit that it's funny seeing them trying to deny the fact that Vegeta beat Freeza.

Maybe next time he can beat his enemy properly instead of getting killed by him, and allowing his family and planet to get destroyed. Being stronger and giving the enemy a beating doesn't mean much if you can't finish the job and stop the enemy from doing what you don't want him to do.

[Birusu16]

No Vegeta fan should give a damn about what anybody else thinks, let alone the opinions of a bunch of egocentric Vegeta haters.

You have to admit that it's funny seeing them trying to deny the fact that Vegeta beat Freeza.

Is Vegeta "beating" Freeza really the only reason some of you were looking forward to this movie?

That and more Beerus and Whis for me.

[ArchedThunder]

Funny Freeza never put a hole through Goku's chest

sorbet did and why are you bringing up events on Namek?

Freeza is a joke he couldn't beat them 1 on 1 in a fight so he ragequits but in the end he still loses

If I'm ever looseing to some in a fight and are getting beaten to death i'll be shore to tell my friends "no its 1 on 1" and if they did help I still beat him with some help.

And if someon suicide bombs me did I kill them or they kill me? If he kills me, which was his intent, then he wins.

If your friend beats up someone that beat you up you didn't beat them up, your friend did. Also Freeza blowing up the planet is pointless, even if Whis couldn't turn back time Goku knows where Namek is. Freeza lost no matter which way you spin it and on top of that he was weak compared to them.

[Mystic Tien]

I guess you missed the point of their posts. They don't hate Vegeta, they are just unpleased by how people treat Vegeta as a victor in a movie, while he lost to a weakened and exhausted Freeza, and failed to protect the Earth.

The point of their posts is to clearly bait Vegeta fans. That much is obvious. They've been doing it since the spoilers came out and it's both sad and pathetic. They can't handle the fact that some people had an opinion different than theirs and had to listen to it on a daily basis. Guess what? Get over it. That's something that happens on a daily basis in the real world. If you can't handle it then don't bother reading those posts. Ignore them and move on. It's as simple as that. People are allowed to think what they want to think and nobody has the right to tell them otherwise.

And with that, I'm done when it comes to this subject. I have no desire to fill this thread up with more nonsensical crap like this.

I read most of their posts in this thread, and I don't see any baiting. I am Vegeta fan myself, and I don't feel offended in the slightest with what they are speaking about and I totally agree with their point, which is based on facts from the summary.

People may have different opinions from their ones, what they are trying to prove is that Vegeta failed to protect the Earth and defeat Frieza, which was his main goal in this movie. And he failed, regardless from Whis rewinding time, this still happened. We saw it (or at least read it, as for now), Goku saw it, Whis saw it, heck, Vegeta himself saw it. And if it was shown, it means, that it happened. And Frieza who destroyed the Earth, not only accomplished his goal while being weakened and exhausted after the fight with Goku, but also managed to undid seemingly close victory of Vegeta, turning it into the loss. That is the point of their argument, as I see it.

[Lord Frieza]

If someone else killed the tiger you didn't beat it, Freeza didn't inflict the moral blow to Goku. If you still die while killing the tiger you didn't win, you both died, Freeza didn't survive killing Vegeta.

A win with help is still a win, the tiger is dead and I'm alive, in the game of life and death I won. stop thing of this thing as a game with rules. There are none and the game ends when one of us is dead.

[Vidmusc]

Why is there even an ongoing debate on whether Vegeta beat Freeza or not? He didn't. In the end, Freeza had killed Vegeta and destroyed the Earth. It's really that simple. That's why time was reversed by Whis. Because they knew Vegeta was going to lose. I don't really see how some people aren't understanding that.

[Birusu16]

I guess you missed the point of their posts. They don't hate Vegeta, they are just unpleased by how people treat Vegeta as a victor in a movie, while he lost to a weakened and exhausted Freeza, and failed to protect the Earth.

The point of their posts is to clearly bait Vegeta fans. That much is obvious. They've been doing it since the spoilers came out and it's both sad and pathetic. They can't handle the fact that some people had an opinion different than theirs and had to listen to it on a daily basis. Guess what? Get over it. That's something that happens on a daily basis in the real world. If you can't handle it then don't bother reading those posts. Ignore them and move on. It's as simple as that. People are allowed to think what they want to think and nobody has the right to tell them otherwise.

And with that, I'm done when it comes to this subject. I have no desire to fill this thread up with more nonsensical crap like this.

I read most of their posts in this thread, and I don't see any baiting. I am Vegeta fan myself, and I don't feel offended in the slightest with what they are speaking about and I totally agree with their point, which is based on facts from the summary.

People may have different opinions from their ones, what they are trying to prove is that Vegeta failed to protect the Earth and defeat Freeza, which was his main goal in this movie. And he failed, regardless from Whis rewinding time, this still happened. We saw it (or at least read it, as for now), Goku saw it, Whis saw it, heck, Vegeta himself saw it. And if it was shown, it means, that it happened. And Freeza who destroyed the Earth, not only accomplished his goal while being weakened and exhausted after the fight with Goku, but also managed to undid seemingly close victory of Vegeta, turning it into the loss. That is the point of their argument, as I see it.

That's great that you see it that way. I don't.

Moving on...

So Kei or anyone else that knows is it true that the reason Beerus was going to blow up the Earth was because Whis restored it? It definitely sounds like him.

[miguelnuva1]

No Vegeta fan should give a damn about what anybody else thinks, let alone the opinions of a bunch of egocentric Vegeta haters.

You have to admit that it's funny seeing them trying to deny the fact that Vegeta beat Freeza.

Vegeta did not beat Frieza. TO have a Defeat a finishing blow needs to be delivered which Frieza is the one that delivered. Had Whis and Goku not interfered Vegeta loses to Frieza 100 times out of 100.

Once again if this was WWE Frieza would still be champion despite being dominated by both Goku and Vegeta because he found a way to win by outside help.

[ArchedThunder]

If someone else killed the tiger you didn't beat it, Freeza didn't inflict the moral blow to Goku. If you still die while killing the tiger you didn't win, you both died, Freeza didn't survive killing Vegeta.

A win with help is still a win, the tiger is dead and I'm alive, in the game of life and death I won. stop thing of this thing as a game with rules. There are none and the game ends when one of us is dead.

It doesn't matter, Feeza didn't win, he wasn't the one who beat Goku, Sorbet was. He died taking out Vegeta and even if Whis couldn't turn back time Goku knows where Namek is. There is no way to spin it as a win for Freeza.

[Hellspawn28]

Seeing that Freeza did kill Vegeta and the rest of the Earth then I guess that means Vegeta, Nappa and Kuririn are the only characters in the franchise that got killed by the same person twice (Vegeta killed Nappa twice, both Vegeta and Kuririn died from Freeza). Mr. Satan, Pan and Uub died as well making Kibitoshin the only character not to die in the franchise.