How do all these new movies affect the end of the manga?

[Skar]

At the End of Z, Goku goes off to train with Uub and Piccolo says something along the lines of "he hasn't been this happy in a long time". Before all these recent movies we assumed a "long time" referred to his battle against Kid Buu. Now we know since defeating Kid Buu, he fought Beerus who was much stronger than Buuhan and then a year or so later fought a Freeza who was also much stronger than Buuhan. The "long time" Piccolo was talking about was been reduced from ten years to around five. Every addition movie will only get closer to End of Z so that "long time" might end up being only a few months or a year. I feel that kinda makes the ending a little anti-climactic. Every new threat has to be stronger than the last so it only makes Buu's reincarnation seem less impressive. If Goku is that much more powerful than Kid Buu then what makes him so excited to challenge Uub? Does he plan for Uub to be a prodigy like Freeza and surpass SSJ God in a few months or does he think Uub will have his own Majin god form?

[Lord Beerus]

Well Goku wasn't really happy that much in BOG. Hell, he actually the hated the conditions that it took for him to become a SSJ God just so that he could fight Beerus.

[Dayspring]

Uub is nothing but pure, raw potential. He's not just another normal human reincarnating in another normal human, he's Buu reincarnated in a mortal body. This is the first time something god-level has reincarnated. If mortals can achieve god-level under exceptionally rare circumstances, imagine what a mortal with the power of a god like Buu can achieve. Something as simple as Popo's training suggests he should be equal or superior to Kid Buu. From there, begin Whis' training methods. He's also young, so he has much more room for growth than Goku and Vegeta do. That's certainly something to be excited about.

[Rocketman]

They don't, because they aren't part of the manga.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Some people believe Oob is now way stronger than Super Vegito because Goku feels as though he'll need all of his stamina intact to fight someone like that. Goku actually thinks Oob has a chance to win the tournament. We know Oob never had any real training, but his full-power kiai was enough to meet Goku's expectations. He also wanted to fight him after his training was complete, along with making him the protector of the planet. I think all of that can explain why he was looking forward to meeting Oob, even though he clashed with a God of Destruction and Golden Freeza.

[Basaku]

They don't, because they aren't part of the manga.

Doesn't matter, both Toei and Toriyama consider it full canon and part of core story. It was made into a selling point for BOG. Finctional universes with multiple pieces of the puzzle fitting the same canon are getting bigger and bigger in entertainment world. Companies push products as part of canon contunity because it matters to the audience. Toei is doing the same here. 90s was 90s, new movies starting with BOG are part of official canon

[ekrolo2]

The problem lies in the fact the ending was made without the new movies in mind, and as in 99% of the instances where something like this happens, its gonna cause inconsistencies no matter how you try to rationalize it. Personally I think the new movies could've easily have taken place after the ending instead of being "in-betweenquels" and no, the whole "they're all too old" thing from Toriyama doesn't make sense as Goku is physically only 40 when Uub appears, Piccolo is gonna last longer than everyone else and their children are all pretty young as well.

[Mystic Tien]

They don't, because they aren't part of the manga.

Doesn't matter, both Toei and Toriyama consider it full canon and part of core story. It was made into a selling point for BOG. Finctional universes with multiple pieces of the puzzle fitting the same canon are getting bigger and bigger in entertainment world. Companies push products as part of canon contunity because it matters to the audience. Toei is doing the same here. 90s was 90s, new movies starting with BOG are part of official canon

And why did you decide that they do? There are no definite statements, so it is just a speculation.

[sintzu]

And why did you decide that they do? There are no definite statements, so it is just a speculation.

The story for Revival of “F” is being crafted by original manga author Akira Toriyama, who stated he is writing it, “…as though it were a continuation of the manga when it was in serialization,” and that it will, “…of course be a continuation of the previous Battle of Gods“

That's an official statement from Toriyama himself that the last 2 movies are officially part of the manga's story and in terms of how they affect the ending,we won't be able to say for sure until the movies within this time period are finished cause There's 4 years of unknown events that happened between Freeza's defeat and Uub's debut so anything can happen.

[Blade]

They don't, because they aren't part of the manga.

So you're totally cool with Jaco, then?

[buutenks]

Well, in the EoZ chapters, Bulma states that she hasn't seen Goku in 10 years, basically since the end of the Buu saga. She arrives with Vegeta saying, "You never visit us." Goku says, "What are you talking about? We saw each other 5 years ago. "And she replies with, "But you didn't even show up. You said you had to train."

So yes, unless Toriyama just removes these last 2 chapters it contradicts both movies.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

I think Bulma says Goku visited in-between training trips.

[buutenks]

I think Bulma says Goku visited in-between training trips.

Nope. She never says that. Goku starts with, "Long time no see," Bulma says, "Long time my ass. You'd never come visit us if we didn't come to you." Then Goku says, "What are you talking about? We saw each other 5 years ago." And Bulma replies, "5 years! You weren't even there because you said you had to train."

So nope. Bulma according to EOZ has not seen Goku in 10 years.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

What translation are you reading? Because that's pretty different from what I read.

[FortuneSSJ]

Yup, I read a different translation too.
The one I read Bulma doesn't deny that Goku was there but still says 5 years without see each other is too much. So yeah, she didn't saw Goku for 5 years.

[Mystic Tien]

And why did you decide that they do? There are no definite statements, so it is just a speculation.

The story for Revival of “F” is being crafted by original manga author Akira Toriyama, who stated he is writing it, “…as though it were a continuation of the manga when it was in serialization,” and that it will, “…of course be a continuation of the previous Battle of Gods“

That's an official statement from Toriyama himself that the last 2 movies are officially part of the manga's story and in terms of how they affect the ending,we won't be able to say for sure until the movies within this time period are finished cause There's 4 years of unknown events that happened between Freeza's defeat and Uub's debut so anything can happen.

Yeah, and manga ended with Uub. So I don't see it being a continuation of manga in any way. Besides he doesn't even claim that it is a continuation of manga. It is fine, if you think that it is a part of manga continuity, I just don't see it with BoG using anime-only elements and featuring anime-only characters, as well as being advertised by Toei as a "Dragon Ball Z" movie "taking place between Z and GT"

[AM Reflection]

Nope.SHe never says that.Goku starts with long time no see,bulma says long time my ass,youd never come visit us if we didnt came to you.Then goku says what are you talking about we saw each other 5 years ago and bulma replies 5 years!you werent even there because you said you had to train.

So nope bulma according to EOZ has not seen goku in 10 years.

Nah. It was 5 years since they met, not 10.

Bulma does mention that Goku said he wouldn't be coming because of training, but she doesn't deny that he was there in the end. I think the implication is that they were the ones who had to force him to even show up at that gathering because the panel before that Bulma is complaining about how if they left it up to him, he'd never meet anyone.

[Dayspring]

I think Bulma says Goku visited in-between training trips.

Nope. She never says that. Goku starts with, "Long time no see," Bulma says, "Long time my ass. You'd never come visit us if we didn't come to you." Then Goku says, "What are you talking about? We saw each other 5 years ago." And Bulma replies, "5 years! You weren't even there because you said you had to train."

So nope. Bulma according to EOZ has not seen Goku in 10 years.

Few points:

1) That's not an accurate translation.
2) That wouldn't mean it's been 10 years, if it were an accurate translation.
3) It just means the most recent get-together was 5 years ago and he missed most of it.
4) Tarble, Battle of Gods and Revival of F are set between Buu and this final get-together, so there's no contradiction here.


And the Uub strength level isn't problematic.

[Basaku]

Besides he doesn't even claim that it is a continuation of manga.

But he does. He said it's just as if he continued serialized manga. And Toei says it's part of the official story. Can't really get any more clear than that. I understand you may not like it but chances that they will change their mind are slim. Especially as they are slowly but surely writing GT out of the picture. The decision has been made, Toei wanted new canon stories on the same level as the manga and Toriyama agreed.

[Hellspawn28]

ROF takes place 5 years after Buu and 5 years before Uub. Unless Goku and Bluma meet up again in the next movie, it really has been five years since Bluma seen Goku. So I think other then Pan being a bit older, I don't think they affect the manga. Goku not using normal SSj anymore could explain why he didn't transform after he pissed off Uub. Goku still wanted to fight and train with Uub since he wanted Buu to be reborn as a good guy. Everything else still plays the same.