The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Angelus]

Let's have these for now:

Present Android 19 and 20 VS SSJ Future Gohan (one-armed) and SSJ Future Trunks with sword (first appearance in the main timeline)-- absorbing allowed

Mystic/Ultimate Gohan VS Super Buu (with Piccolo, SSJ Goten and Trunks, and whole First Form Hirudegarn absorbed)-- no candy beam, absorbing Gohan, blowing up planets, or turning into smoke/mist

Ranfan VS Videl, Valese, Erasa, Thief Hasky, Colonel Violet, Tights, Bra (End of Z), and Blonde Launch (no sneezing or weapons)

Bloodlusted Android 8 VS Major Metallitron (he won't run out of battery power)

Cell Games Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, Yajirobe, and Roshi VS Abo and Kado (they won't fuse)

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Let's have these for now:

Present Android 19 and 20 VS SSJ Future Gohan (one-armed) and SSJ Future Trunks with sword (first appearance in the main timeline)-- absorbing allowed

Both of them are supposed to be far inferior to both Frieza and King Cold (who is more or less half as strong). I'm confident even a weakened Future SSJ Gohan could take them unless they somehow drain a lot of Gohan's energy without him knowing. If he's not aware of this, and throws a few kamehamehas at them, that could be his downfall.

Ranfan VS Videl, Valese, Erasa, Thief Hasky, Colonel Violet, Tights, Bra (End of Z), and Blonde Launch (no sneezing or weapons)

If this is an all out match between Ranfan and all of these characters, Videl should take her alone. None of the others are required.

Cell Games Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, Yajirobe, and Roshi VS Abo and Kado (they won't fuse)

It is stated by Tarble that these two are each about as strong as 1st form Frieza. (he's still wearing a scouter and relying on it to tell the power level of others, meaning Tarble should be specifically referring to the 530,000 Frieza. Scouters explode beyond this power level.)

Cell Games Krillin and Tenshinhan should be somewhere between 2nd and 3rd form Frieza. So over 1 million. I have Yamcha a bit weaker than 2nd form Frieza.
Chiaotzu, Yajirobe and Roshi just get in the way

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Let's have these for now:

Present Android 19 and 20 VS SSJ Future Gohan (one-armed) and SSJ Future Trunks with sword (first appearance in the main timeline)-- absorbing allowed

Both of them are supposed to be far inferior to both Freeza and King Cold (who is more or less half as strong). I'm confident even a weakened Future SSJ Gohan could take them unless they somehow drain a lot of Gohan's energy without him knowing. If he's not aware of this, and throws a few kamehamehas at them, that could be his downfall.

Why are #19 and #20 supposed to be far inferior to Freeza and King Cold?

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Let's have these for now:

Present Android 19 and 20 VS SSJ Future Gohan (one-armed) and SSJ Future Trunks with sword (first appearance in the main timeline)-- absorbing allowed

Both of them are supposed to be far inferior to both Freeza and King Cold (who is more or less half as strong). I'm confident even a weakened Future SSJ Gohan could take them unless they somehow drain a lot of Gohan's energy without him knowing. If he's not aware of this, and throws a few kamehamehas at them, that could be his downfall.

Why are #19 and #20 supposed to be far inferior to Freeza and King Cold?

Pre-fusion Piccolo was a lot stronger than 20. He should be no stronger than 100% Frieza.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Why can't Piccolo be stronger than Freeza?

[Lord Beerus]

Present Android 19 and 20 VS SSJ Future Gohan (one-armed) and SSJ Future Trunks with sword (first appearance in the main timeline)-- absorbing allowed

Mystic/Ultimate Gohan VS Super Buu (with Piccolo, SSJ Goten and Trunks, and whole First Form Hirudegarn absorbed)-- no candy beam, absorbing Gohan, blowing up planets, or turning into smoke/mist

Ranfan VS Videl, Valese, Erasa, Thief Hasky, Colonel Violet, Tights, Bra (End of Z), and Blonde Launch (no sneezing or weapons)

Bloodlusted Android 8 VS Major Metallitron (he won't run out of battery power)

Cell Games Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, Yajirobe, and Roshi VS Abo and Kado (they won't fuse)

- SSJ Future Gohan and SSJ Future Trunks stomps the androids
- Super Buu stomps
- Ranfan runs through everyone
- #8 takes this
- Team Earth wins and quite comfortably

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Cell Games Goku vs. Cell Games Gohan (Gohan isn't a pacifist for this fight)

If these 2 fought eachother, which fight would it resemble?

1. Vegeta vs. Recoome
2. 3rd form Freeza vs. Piccolo
3. Goku vs. Jeice/Butta
4. Other (specify)

[In Brightest Day]

- Cell Junior vs. Future Trunks (after defeating Imperfect Cell)
- Cell Junior vs. Son Goten
- Cell Junior vs. Kaioshin
- Cell Junior vs. Trunks.

Scenario 1: pre-ROSAT kid Trunks and Goten.
Scenario 2: post-ROSAT kid Trunks and Goten.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

- Cell Junior vs. Future Trunks (after defeating Imperfect Cell)
- Cell Junior vs. Son Goten
- Cell Junior vs. Kaioshin
- Cell Junior vs. Trunks.

Scenario 1: pre-ROSAT kid Trunks and Goten.
Scenario 2: post-ROSAT kid Trunks and Goten.

Future Trunks can beat a Cell Junior at that point in time, in my opinion. Pre or post-RoSaT Kids can stomp a Cell Junior, and Kaioshin gets one-shotted by a Cell Jr.

[fadeddreams5]

- Cell Junior vs. Future Trunks (after defeating Imperfect Cell)
- Cell Junior vs. Son Goten
- Cell Junior vs. Kaioshin
- Cell Junior vs. Trunks.

Scenario 1: pre-ROSAT kid Trunks and Goten.
Scenario 2: post-ROSAT kid Trunks and Goten.

Future Trunks wins at that point in the story.

Pre-Rosat, the kids get curbstomped. Post-Rosat, the kids... still lose. Those Cell Juniors are close, if not equal, to Perfect Cell when he fought Goku.

Kaioshin... may win with effort? I don't know the depths of this character's powers. He seems like such a ***** at the sight of Yakon and Pui Pui...

[Lord Beerus]

Cell Games Goku vs. Cell Games Gohan (Gohan isn't a pacifist for this fight)

If these 2 fought eachother, which fight would it resemble?

1. Vegeta vs. Recoome
2. 3rd form Freeza vs. Piccolo
3. Goku vs. Jeice/Butta
4. Other (specify)

It would resemble Vegeta vs Recoome. Yeah, Cell (Vegeta) would be able to do some damage to a degree. But Gohan (Recoome) would able to handle himself comfortably and no-sell about 90% of what Cell throws at him.

- Cell Junior vs. Future Trunks (after defeating Imperfect Cell)
- Cell Junior vs. Son Goten
- Cell Junior vs. Kaioshin
- Cell Junior vs. Trunks.

Scenario 1: pre-ROSAT kid Trunks and Goten.
Scenario 2: post-ROSAT kid Trunks and Goten.

- Future Trunks wrecks Cell Jr.
- Pre-ROSAT Son Goten gets one shotted by Cell Jr. Post-ROSAT Gotenks crushes Cell Jr.
- Cell Jr. stomps Kaioshin
- Pre-ROSAT Trunks gets stomped by Cell Jr. Post-ROSAT Trunks finger flicks Cell Jr.

[Sandubadear]

Ultimate Shenron is stronger than Baby Vegeta vs. Whis

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Ultimate Shenron is stronger than Baby Vegeta vs. Whis

This one is easy.

Goku: "I ain't even felt a ki that incredible before!" (after sensing SBV1)

BoG takes place before GT, so logically, Goku sensed Beers and Whiss already.

Ultimate Shenron > SBV1 > Whiss

[Lord Beerus]

Ultimate Shenron is stronger than Baby Vegeta vs. Whis

Whis one shots.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Why can't Piccolo be stronger than Freeza?

At 120 million, this is already a much larger gain than Goku's or Vegeta's power up in that 3 year gap. Piccolo was under 2 million when he fought Frieza. Anything more than 120 million is too generous. Goku and Vegeta were somewhere between 300-400 million in SSJ.

Besides, not every villain has to be stronger than the last. Gero had no data of the battles after the battle between Goku and Vegeta on Earth.
It would make sense if he had at least a few of his creations being weaker than Frieza/King Cold.

I also recall base Vegeta being able to knock #19 away from Goku before he transformed. If that Android was over 100 million, Vegeta would have a lot more difficulty doing this.

Lastly, none of us really know how strong 19 and 20 are. This is all opinionated.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

The Z Senshi considered#20 post to be as strong as expected [which would be stronger than SS Trunks (Trunks saga)] after seeing his movements, and Piccolo beat #20 up. Piccolo also wondered if he himself had just became too strong instead of the Androids being weaker than expected, which would be asinine if Piccolo was still weaker than Freeza of all people.

Piccolo [Android saga] > #20 post ~ Androids [expected] > SS Trunks [Trunks saga] > Mecha Freeza > 100% Freeza

[fadeddreams5]

Ultimate Shenron is stronger than Baby Vegeta vs. Whis

Whis one-shots.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

In my opinion, the only GT character who would be able to defeat Whis or Beerus is Omega Shenron.

[Lord Beerus]

In my opinion, the only GT character who would be able to defeat Whis or Beerus is Omega Shenron.

I doubt Omega Shenron could shit to either Beerus or Whis.

[fadeddreams5]

Thing with GT is that it doesn't take god ki into account. Every villain and character in that series possesses mortal ki. I don't see a mortal ever reaching the level of power of Beerus, let alone Whis. It's a whole other dimension of strength.