Goku and Superman Popularity

[TheGmGoken]

My boys Goten and Trunks are more popular than Superman! . They deserve it. Greatest characters of all time.

I understand that this isnt accurate.

[Bullza]

https://www.google.co.uk/trends/explore ... 20Superman

No. See that flat line at the bottom? Yeah, that's Goten.

[TheGmGoken]

https://www.google.co.uk/trends/explore ... 20Superman

No. See that flat line at the bottom? Yeah, that's Goten.

That's the joke.. and you ruined it. . Why you think I added Trunks to it.

[dbzfan7]

Leave the reporting to Clark. This just ain't Super...Man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQeM01Soey8

[VegettoEX]

This thread is filled with examples of posts that are unacceptable:

That proves jack shit!!! just look at the years from 2005 and before the Christianity was obviously more popular because after 9/11 there has been a lot of religious controversy of possibility of world war 3 and bible prediction of end of the world and other shit. But then after some years it started to quiet down again and today more people are more likely to be informed and less conservative than they were 10 years ago.

Leave the reporting to Clark. This just ain't Super...Man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQeM01Soey8

Just give up...

Is this you? STOP. POSTING. LIKE. THIS. These contributions are not warranted, acceptable, or tolerated. You will find your posts being deleted and strikes will be lodged against your account (and in many cases, already have been). You are embarrassing yourselves and the community as a whole.

Is this NOT you? Look to these as example of how you should NOT be acting while you are here.

[rereboy]

If my post is being criticized on account of coming across as lacking in appropriate tone, I assure that that was not my intention when I wrote it and I apologize.

If my post is being criticized for not being sufficiently detailed, I would like to rectify that flaw by saying that I was suggesting to him that he should give up pressing the issue of these graphics and data being very reliable, or meaning what he was suggesting it meant, since it had already been pretty successfully and clearly demonstrated that they are not and don't.

[Hellspawn28]

The way I look at it is that Superman is a pop culture icon worldwide while Goku is mainly a cult culture icon outside of Japan. I think most people don't know who Goku is unless you point it out. People may know DBZ by name but not the characters. For example, everyone know who Godzilla, Mecha Godzilla, Mothra and Rodan are but I doubt most people know the other monsters like Destoryah, Orga and Titanosaurus are. I feel like most nerdy people and the people who grew up watching CN during the late 90's know who Goku is while every day casual people don't know anything about DBZ besides the name alone.

[Bullza]

Rodan?

[TheGmGoken]

Here's a good way of look at it. When my mom sees me watching any anime she say "is that Goku?" to everyone BUT Goku

But she can easily spot out Superman. I feel like many are like that.

[Bullza]

You'd be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't know who Superman is, he's up there with Mickey Mouse as being the most recognizable character in the world.

Your average joe on the street wouldn't know who Goku is.

[dbzfan7]

You'd be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't know who Superman is, he's up there with Mickey Mouse as being the most recognizable character in the world.

Your average joe on the street wouldn't know who Goku is.

Pretty sure if we did a survey, Supes would come out on top with the average person, while Goku wouldn't.

[GokuRules987]

If my post is being criticized on account of coming across as lacking in appropriate tone, I assure that that was not my intention when I wrote it and I apologize.

If my post is being criticized for not being sufficiently detailed, I would like to rectify that flaw by saying that I was suggesting to him that he should give up pressing the issue of these graphics and data being very reliable, or meaning what he was suggesting it meant, since it had already been pretty successfully and clearly demonstrated that they are not and don't.

Again there isnt any flaws in the in those graphs because you could use many other examples to test out my theory like comparing game of thrones and you see the popularity increase during its airing time and dropping back during the break. The whole Superman and Goku Graph basicly shows which fictional character is being meantioned or discussed the most on the internet, This graph isnt a poll to show who knows about superman or goku.

Infact you know why Goku is so popular? Because There was a few you tube videos from channels ERB and Screw attacks which generated both over 75 million views in just 2 videos. Millions people that probably didnt know about Goku, would already know who he is.

[Kamiccolo9]

If my post is being criticized on account of coming across as lacking in appropriate tone, I assure that that was not my intention when I wrote it and I apologize.

If my post is being criticized for not being sufficiently detailed, I would like to rectify that flaw by saying that I was suggesting to him that he should give up pressing the issue of these graphics and data being very reliable, or meaning what he was suggesting it meant, since it had already been pretty successfully and clearly demonstrated that they are not and don't.

Again there isnt any flaws in the in those graphs because you could use many other examples to test out my theory like comparing game of thrones and you see the popularity increase during its airing time and dropping back during the break. The whole Superman and Goku Graph basicly shows which fictional character is being meantioned or discussed the most on the internet, This graph isnt a poll to show who knows about superman or goku.

Infact you know why Goku is so popular? Because There was a few you tube videos from channels ERB and Screw attacks which generated both over 75 million views in just 2 videos. Millions people that probably didnt know about Goku, would already know who he is.

It's flawed because you keep using the word "popularity." "Popularity" is not gained by how many hits something received online.

[Bullza]

Well if it means anything here are this is how many views the Top 10 most watched videos involving what said character come up to.

Batman - 277 million
Superman - 233 million
Goku - 183 million
Naruto - 146 million
Wolverine - 94 million
Green Lantern - 54 million
Luffy - 54 million

[Polyphase Avatron]

If my post is being criticized on account of coming across as lacking in appropriate tone, I assure that that was not my intention when I wrote it and I apologize.

If my post is being criticized for not being sufficiently detailed, I would like to rectify that flaw by saying that I was suggesting to him that he should give up pressing the issue of these graphics and data being very reliable, or meaning what he was suggesting it meant, since it had already been pretty successfully and clearly demonstrated that they are not and don't.

Again there isntaren't any flaws in the in those graphs

Your points come off better if you use proper grammar, just FYI.

[TheGmGoken]

Well if it means anything here are this is how many views the Top 10 most watched videos involving that said character come up to.

Batman - 277 million
Superman - 233 million
Goku - 183 million
Naruto - 146 million
Wolverine - 94 million

The god damn Batman strikes again. Not to get off topic. But isn't safe to say that with all the comics (Batman has more comics than Superman), TV shows, cartoons, games, shirts, memes, and movies that Batman is more popular than Superman.

Not to be that jackass but what's the point of the thread?

[The Tori-bot]

Well if it means anything here are this is how many views the Top 10 most watched videos involving that said character come up to.

Batman - 277 million
Superman - 233 million
Goku - 183 million
Naruto - 146 million
Wolverine - 94 million

The god damn Batman strikes again. Not to get off topic. But isn't safe to say that with all the comics (Batman has more comics than Superman), TV shows, cartoons, games, shirts, memes, and movies that Batman is more popular than Superman.

He is, quite comfortably. Spider-Man is even more popular than both of them put together if you go by this.

Not to be that jackass but what's the point of the thread?

To serve as a lesson on how not to collect data?

[Bullza]

Batman is significantly more popular than Superman. While Batman was having record breaking blockbuster films Superman had a movie that made chump change so was demoted to TV shows and when he finally did he get a film (Superman Returns) it flopped.

Batman has 12 animated movies and 5 cartoon series since 1990 and Superman has 4 animated movies 1 cartoon series since 1990.

Batman has countless video games including multi million GOTY games and Superman has never had a good game and his last game came out in 2006.

For all of Superman's fame he hasn't been that successful in a long time.

[Dbzk1999]

Batman is significantly more popular than Superman. While Batman was having record breaking blockbuster films Superman had a movie that made chump change so was demoted to TV shows.

Which superman movie are you talking about!

[MarcFBR]

Batman is significantly more popular than Superman. While Batman was having record breaking blockbuster films Superman had a movie that made chump change so was demoted to TV shows.

Which superman movie are you talking about!

He isn't quite aware what he's talking about. Attempts at another Superman movie were effectively nonstop from when Cannon film's Superman 4 bombed to the day Superman Returns came out.

Warner was so desperate to get the film rights themselves that they used some legal trickery to get the film rights to the character, which at the time they didn't actually have film rights to.

He's confusing the idea of Superman not having a film in that timeframe because of behind the scenes issues with them not 'wanting' to make one. They were quite desperate to have one. Various contracts in the intervening years were pay or play, which means they were so dedicated to getting a new film made people were given guaranteed paydays, even if no film ever came out (the most notable I believe was the period when Tim Burton was given a $5 million pay or play.)

There are 6 theatrical full length Superman features at the moment.

Between 4 not doing well and Returns coming out they tried to make more than the number of films that currently exist- Superman 5, 2 different versions of a film called Superman Reborn, 2 different films called Superman Lives (actually... 3, but I don't recall if the first one prior to Smith coming on was called Superman Lives or not), a film called Superman: Man of Steel (this pitch involved a story that could be stretched out to half a dozen sequels if it was successful as I recall), at one point Nic Cage was helping write a script (different from Superman Lives when he was hired to be Superman), then you had a few various versions of a Batman Vs. Superman movie, and finally you had JJ Abrams utterly psychotic Superman Flyby, which fell apart when it's director dropped out, which led to Superman Returns.

The list of actors and directors were were chased after to do Superman during that period is almost hilarious.

Bullza is simply making the common mistake of "A movie hasn't come out, therefore there was no interest" when anyone who follows film news through the 90s and early 2000s knows that news about new Superman movies was nearly nonstop.