Full thoughts soon. I didn't give a crap about not spoiling since the last part wasn't really that great. This part still feels just like another Broly part. I hate how the consequence stuff went away post Boo arc (Cept the very end with Demigra), and instead we're just kinda part of the story line. Omega just shows up and off screen absorbs the others. Apparently we coulda followed them in the wormholes or casually destroyed them so that really makes me question earlier stuff. Also the only good thing was the end dialogue between the villains, and the end dialogue post fighting. The story itself was kinda lame. However it seems we're not done. That purple aura surrounding the hut where we took TQ jobs, could it be Mira & Towa? Demigra?, both?, or is it a sign we will get Fukkatsu no F Xenoverse Time Patrol.
Also if Bebi Vegeta was taken away...how is Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta around?
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Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Full thoughts soon. I didn't give a crap about not spoiling since the last part wasn't really that great. This part still feels just like another Broly part. I hate how the consequence stuff went away post Boo arc (Cept the very end with Demigra), and instead we're just kinda part of the story line. Omega just shows up and off screen absorbs the others. Apparently we coulda followed them in the wormholes or casually destroyed them so that really makes me question earlier stuff. Also the only good thing was the end dialogue between the villains, and the end dialogue post fighting. The story itself was kinda lame. However it seems we're not done. That purple aura surrounding the hut where we took TQ jobs, could it be Mira & Towa? Demigra?, both?, or is it a sign we will get Fukkatsu no F Xenoverse Time Patrol.
Also if Bebi Vegeta was taken away...how is Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta around?
It is called the Grandfather paradox theory.
Dragon Ball Heroes God Mission = Best sets of missions so far
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I'd really like Herms to look over this if we had the Japanese version available. I really feel like we're missing some information for a couple of specific points in that story, though I don't know if that's just the English version or how the game handles these details in general. :/
Big Momma wrote:I did, and I still don't get what you're hinting at.
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The evil aura typically used for Demigra's apparitions and the time distortions is seen atop the gate to the Time Nest when they go to eat their "delicious" banquet.
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I figured that was part of the joke, and emanating from the Kai of Times' cooking.
Rocketman(In response to a post about Pandora's Box) wrote:
I sat here for ten damn minutes wondering what the hell God of War had to do with any of this.
Insertclevername wrote:I plan to lose my virginity to Dragon Box 2.
dbzfan7 wrote:Also if Bebi Vegeta was taken away...how is Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta around?
It is called the Grandfather paradox theory.
No, it's not the same thing. It would only be a paradox if the hero doesn't win. But because he does, Bebi is returned back to the point from which he was taken and thus Vegeta was never really missing.
Big Momma wrote:
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I figured that was part of the joke, and emanating from the Kai of Times' cooking.
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I guess that could be what they were going for, but it's hard to tell if that's an evil energy surrounding the house or floating in front of it. I can't really tell if the effect shows up behind the house or not.
Direct translations of the Korean DB Online timeline and guidebook.
My personal "canon" and BP list. (Coming Soon)
Towa and Mira didn't go all partial-fiend on us. I wonder if that mean they were behind all the possessions in the Parallel Quests and not Demigra (from somewhere, some time, doing something)?
I know they are PQs and don't need to make sense, but it is just a thought.
Direct translations of the Korean DB Online timeline and guidebook.
My personal "canon" and BP list. (Coming Soon)
Anyone wanted to join in Xenoverse for Extreme Grinding? My PSN: Leela_Donn, Kimiko Lv. 60
(Only on PS3. You must be at Lv. 55 or higher. You must do Normal Quests from the Online Quests. I am at Lv. 60 and i wanna Reach my Zeni to 500,000 and collect all of the Uub's Outfit before i create Azaya Yamade first. Primary Quests: Everyone involved on Majin Exterminating. Secondary Quests: All others if needed.)
Just chillin' with Goku and Vegeta, Kairi, Riku, Mickey, Goofy, and of course Donald Fuckin' Duck.
And swingin' this keyblade called Crystal Snow. Damn, even its own keyblade transformation beats out Krillin's speed. BTW, Blizzard Blades are Goku fast.
Saiga wrote:Has the patch been released yet? I just logged in and can't earn any more experience above 80.
Yes, the patch has been released. I'm at Level 83 as I speak.
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Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
