Discussion, generally of an in-universe nature, regarding any aspect of the franchise (including movies, spin-offs, etc.) such as: techniques, character relationships, internal back-history, its universe, and more.
Sometime after EoZ, even after he trains Uub at his house (Neko Majin shows Uub seemed to be living with them)... ChiChi has a heart attack while everyone else is out. They notice her ki dissapearing. It takes them some time to get back there because there isn't a target ki to teleport directly to.
Senzu won't work with something like that. Goku teleports to Dende, but it is too late. This means ChiChi just died of natural causes. Goku wasn't able to do anything and she can't be brought back with the DB.
I think the shock would be so hard and sudden that... he wouldn't be able to react at all at first. Gohan would cry and Goten would totally loose it ... but Goku would completely stunned still trying to process what he's feeling. Goten might misunderstand this reaction and get angry at Goku, accusing him of never caring like he should, preferring to stay dead leaving ChiChi to raise him on her own, etc, etc. Gohan would stop him but I think the damage would be already done. Goku would look away riddled with guilt, like when Vegeta confronted him on why did he save Satan instead of their own children.
I think that would make him crack.
Check out Journey's End, a short story of Goku and Vegeta's final days. "Time is running out for the last two Saiyans"
soulnova wrote:Ok, I'm going for a head canon of mine.
Sometime after EoZ, even after he trains Uub at his house (Neko Majin shows Uub seemed to be living with them)... ChiChi has a heart attack while everyone else is out. They notice her ki dissapearing. It takes them some time to get back there because there isn't a target ki to teleport directly to.
Senzu won't work with something like that. Goku teleports to Dende, but it is too late. This means ChiChi just died of natural causes. Goku wasn't able to do anything and she can't be brought back with the DB.
I think the shock would be so hard and sudden that... he wouldn't be able to react at all at first. Gohan would cry and Goten would totally loose it ... but Goku would completely stunned still trying to process what he's feeling. Goten might misunderstand thi<s reaction and get angry at Goku, accusing him of never caring like he should, preferring to stay dead leaving ChiChi to raise him on her own, etc, etc. Gohan would stop him but I think the damage would be already done. Goku would look away riddled with guilt, like when Vegeta confronted him on why did he save Satan instead of their own children.
Rocketman wrote:According to GT, ChiChi in a nurse outfit penetrating his hindquarters with a foot-long metal shaft.
That sounds like one hell of a premise for a Dragon Ball Hentai. And ironically, it would have a better story than all of GT.
Um... How is this a part of GT?
It was just a joke.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
I know it's a part of GT. It's just the way you worded the scenario originally Rocketman, was quite... suggestive.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Been alone for an eternity. Having no one to fight or spend time with.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
buutenks wrote:Hmm,considering goku's personality,even if all that would happen,hed proly still not cry ^^.Hed go oh well,not much you can do about it.
Polyphase Avatron wrote:Well in that case he could do something about it (namely avenge him).
Oh yeah just noticed that post was referring the the muffin button post above it, I thought it was going on about some of the more extreme scenarios...
