Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:19 pm

rereboy wrote:Only the actual product matters.
I never implied anything to the contrary. If you want to deflect the rest of my post just don't reply rather than make up nonsense.
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Post by sbk » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:21 pm

Anyone know where you can get a full plot description (spoilers and all)? :P
Found one on wikia but it's not complete

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Post by radrappy » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:22 pm

I strongly encourage everyone to read Jaco before going into this film. If you're prepared for his inclusion, he easily steals the show. One of Toriyama's most fun and lovable characters on screen to date.

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Post by JulieYBM » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:22 pm

sbk wrote:Anyone know where you can get a full plot description (spoilers and all)? :P
Found one on wikia but it's not complete
The Kanzenshuu website has the most up-to-date summary.
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Post by jcogginsa » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:23 pm

question: Can Frieza sense Ki in the film, or is he still dependent on a Scouter?

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Post by sbk » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:23 pm

JulieYBM wrote:
sbk wrote:Anyone know where you can get a full plot description (spoilers and all)? :P
Found one on wikia but it's not complete
The Kanzenshuu website has the most up-to-date summary.
Thanks! :P

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Post by Lord Frieza » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:26 pm

jcogginsa wrote:question: Can Freeza sense Ki in the film, or is he still dependent on a Scouter?
He dosent wear a scouter at all in the film but none has ever stated that he can sense ki or not.

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Post by radrappy » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:27 pm

jcogginsa wrote:question: Can Freeza sense Ki in the film, or is he still dependent on a Scouter?
There was no indication whatsoever that he can sense Ki in the movie.

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Post by Marco Polo » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:28 pm

Lord Frieza wrote:Image

This movie is gonna be awesome!
I love how Frieza is now the golden one and Goku is the blueish/purpleish/whiteish one.

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Post by rereboy » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:30 pm

JulieYBM wrote:
The whole episode doesn't look similar. It's the only three seconds in the episode that employs thick outlines and a detailed, closely framed distortion of a character's form as they move in an exaggerated manner. Anyone actually watching the scene within the context of the episode will actually be able to pick up on these things, but your argument relies on cherry-picking facts and presenting them outside of the context they exist. Now you have the gumption to use this out-of-context three second cut on a forum dedicated solely to an entirely separate franchise to lord over being 'even worse' without even taking the responsibility of defending your argument.

It's really no different from a lot of the feedback from Dragon Ball Z: Fukkatsu no F being out of context, vague and ill-described with little thought placed into the manner in which ideas are expressed. There's a lot of saying of 'what' but not a whole lot of saying of 'why'.
I actually can explain a bit about why it's unfitting to me if you really want to. It's unfitting because it contrasts too much with the regular art in the series and the whole segment and fight is supposed to be dramatic and tense and that look doesn't feel dramatic or tense at all to me. It's feels more comedic than anything, which only gets worse with stuff like him running around like sonic and getting hit with a pillar several times like the Wild Coyote. And the ugliness also isn't fitting, imo... If they wanted to represent Pain's character, they should have gone with a slightly twisted look that was still dramatic and tense but that still didn't contrast that much with the rest of the series and just made him look like he had been slightly twisted. Pain is not exactly a ugly character like Orochimaru, he wants the greater good, it's just his logic that has been twisted.

As for why it looks ugly and bad, I'm sorry but you will just have to accept that people can have opinions on how something looks without being able to write an essay on it or needing to write an essay on it to have an valid opinion.

Also, you really should tone down your assumptions... Half of what you say in that post in off the mark and is starting to be insulting.
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rereboy wrote:Only the actual product matters.
I never implied anything to the contrary. If you want to deflect the rest of my post just don't reply rather than make up nonsense.
Or maybe I was just writing the rest...? Like I say, tone it down. You are really starting to get insulting...

Anyway, forgive for not knowing that you think that only the actual product matters, with you criticizing my subjective opinion on the actual product while quoting the names of the artists and studios behind the anime and so on...
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Post by rereboy » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:33 pm

Marco Polo wrote: I love how Freeza is now the golden one and Goku is the blueish/purpleish/whiteish one.
Freeza one step behind.
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Post by Lord Frieza » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:35 pm

Marco Polo wrote: I love how Freeza is now the golden one and Goku is the blueish/purpleish/whiteish one.
It kind of embodies the feel of the movie in a way. The same, yet different.

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Post by SuperSaiyan4Vegito » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:39 pm

I posted this earlier this week, but went back 20 pages and still couldn't find replies...

Is there a reason why Goku can't/won't use SSJ2 or 3 with God ki as well?
If he couldn't finish Frieza without going back in time, why not just go SSJ2 then? Is it like learning the forms all over again?

SSJGod Goku in BoG used 100% at the end.
Beerus used almost 70% right???

We still don't know the strength difference between SSJG and SSJGSSJ, but if he went SSJGSSJ2, then he should be at least 2x as strong, right?
[SSjx50 - SSj2x2 of SSj - SSj3x4 of SSj2]
Beerus would have to go "almost 140%". LOL!!

...Now I'd like to know the difference between Beerus and Whis to see if Goku would win using SSJGSSJ3 to fight Whis...
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Post by Birusu16 » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:42 pm

SuperSaiyan4Vegito wrote:I posted this earlier this week, but went back 20 pages and still couldn't find replies...

Is there a reason why Goku can't/won't use SSJ2 or 3 with God ki as well?
If he couldn't finish Freeza without going back in time, why not just go SSJ2 then? Is it like learning the forms all over again?

SSJGod Goku in BoG used 100% at the end.
Beerus used almost 70% right???

We still don't know the strength difference between SSJG and SSJGSSJ, but if he went SSJGSSJ2, then he should be at least 2x as strong, right?
[SSjx50 - SSj2x2 of SSj - SSj3x4 of SSj2]
Beerus would have to go "almost 140%". LOL!!

...Now I'd like to know the difference between Beerus and Whis to see if Goku would win using SSJGSSJ3 to fight Whis...
I'm pretty sure it's because SSGSS is simply SSJ with the power of SSJG (apparently that's exactly how Goku explains it in the film as well). It's not stronger than the SSJG form from BoGs. It's just the full power of that form, so I'm guessing in order to bring out its full power he needs SSJ since he can't manage to bring out its full power in base.
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Post by radrappy » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:43 pm

SuperSaiyan4Vegito wrote:I posted this earlier this week, but went back 20 pages and still couldn't find replies...

Is there a reason why Goku can't/won't use SSJ2 or 3 with God ki as well?
If he couldn't finish Freeza without going back in time, why not just go SSJ2 then? Is it like learning the forms all over again?

SSJGod Goku in BoG used 100% at the end.
Beerus used almost 70% right???

We still don't know the strength difference between SSJG and SSJGSSJ, but if he went SSJGSSJ2, then he should be at least 2x as strong, right?
[SSjx50 - SSj2x2 of SSj - SSj3x4 of SSj2]
Beerus would have to go "almost 140%". LOL!!

...Now I'd like to know the difference between Beerus and Whis to see if Goku would win using SSJGSSJ3 to fight Whis...
The whole point is that Goku/Vegeta, if responsible could have easily dealt with golden Freeza. They never needed more power, just more common sense.

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Post by Dyno » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:44 pm

SuperSaiyan4Vegito wrote:Is there a reason why Goku can't/won't use SSJ2 or 3 with God ki as well?
Akira Toriyama.
SuperSaiyan4Vegito wrote:We still don't know the strength difference between SSJG and SSJGSSJ, but if he went SSJGSSJ2, then he should be at least 2x as strong, right?
[SSjx50 - SSj2x2 of SSj - SSj3x4 of SSj2]
Beerus would have to go "almost 140%". LOL!!
Don't even start. Take this power level discussion elsewhere, please.

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Post by Kendamu » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:51 pm

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Kendamu wrote:Hey, guys. I went and saw the movie in LA. The whole event was a blast. If you wanna check out my video where I ramble about it, the first couple minutes are spoiler free and I warn you very clearly before I go into 20 minutes of spoiler heavy talk.

https://youtu.be/lFbjVOodP-s

Hit me with your questions and I'll do my best to explain what I can.
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If it's not to much trouble could you describe Vegeta's fight in detail ?
I don't remember every little detail, but...

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Post by Lord Frieza » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:53 pm

SuperSaiyan4Vegito wrote:I posted this earlier this week, but went back 20 pages and still couldn't find replies...

Is there a reason why Goku can't/won't use SSJ2 or 3 with God ki as well?
If he couldn't finish Freeza without going back in time, why not just go SSJ2 then? Is it like learning the forms all over again?

SSJGod Goku in BoG used 100% at the end.
Beerus used almost 70% right???

We still don't know the strength difference between SSJG and SSJGSSJ, but if he went SSJGSSJ2, then he should be at least 2x as strong, right?
[SSjx50 - SSj2x2 of SSj - SSj3x4 of SSj2]
Beerus would have to go "almost 140%". LOL!!

...Now I'd like to know the difference between Beerus and Whis to see if Goku would win using SSJGSSJ3 to fight Whis...
While we dont know the exact power difference the reason Goku dosent use ss2 or 3 is because they burn through a lot energy just to maintain them so in the long run they are not that useful. Just look at Goku's fight with Kid Buu, over using SS3 in the fight caused him to pass out. The same thing would likely happen even with his god power and in a life or death fight the last thing you want his waste your stamina.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:53 pm

SuperSaiyan4Vegito wrote: Is there a reason why Goku can't/won't use SSJ2 or 3 with God ki as well?
If he couldn't finish Freeza without going back in time, why not just go SSJ2 then? Is it like learning the forms all over again?
@bold part, that is exactly how I interpret it makes sense, I mean it took him 7 years (or there abouts) to master Super Saiyan 3 and even then he could only really use the form properly in Other World, so imagine mastering SS3 with God Ki not in Other World, gonna take sometime.

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Post by Lord Frieza » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:57 pm

@ Kendamu

Could you confirm whether or not Golden Freeza is giving Goku a hard time befor his stamina wears out please?

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