Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[sintzu]

Then I must suck at that task cause I filmed him, and took two pictures with Mr. Horikawa.

You did that to study him in order to finish him with minimum efforts.

[Birusu16]

Never said they were...but I trust his word since he saw the movie over yours. Someone who has full context understood unlike you.

Coming from the person who could literally see that I met his Seiyuu, and still thinks I'm biased towards Vegeta...right.

1.You surely presented them as if they were considering you completely wrote off my viewpoint in favor of your own despite absolutely no concrete proof, no implications, nothing whatsoever. And if you have none of that then your viewpoint isn't anymore valid than mine. Stop being such a disgustingly arrogant poster and actually try and see other viewpoints besides your own. You were obviously able to do that with whoever you talked to yet can't manage to do that with me. I wonder why that is. Oh I know. Because you can't stop being a hypocrite for one second when having a debate with me.
2. You mean just like how you simply wrote me off as an obsessed Vegeta fan despite not ever meeting me, knowing me, or anything of the sort?

Look in the mirror buddy.

Every post I made was my opinion. Every response was "Nuh Uh Vegeta is like this now" I personally think it was a bit embarrassing, you don't. That's all there is to it now.

The difference is I have the evidence to prove I'm not biased, you do not. People can easily believe me since I can prove it. You. You've already given off the impression, and believe me we've noticed.

Why would I ever do that if I hate Vegeta?

1. Then perhaps you should post like it instead of like this:

Vegeta doesn't care about that. He's all about one upping Goku. He ain't doing that while picking up Goku's prey. They still to this day try to out do each other. If he really wanted to show his stuff, and since he's supposed to be Goku's equal, he woulda fought Freeza at his best and won. He'd then have outdid Goku, which he even mentions in BOG as that is something he still tries to do. And if he was really trying to be careful with Freeza, he'd have one shotted him. Freeza was so weak he couldn't hurt Goku no more after their fight ended. Vegeta coulda one shotted Freeza then and there if he wanted to be careful.

Where you sit here and act like what you're saying is fact. How do you know Vegeta doesn't care about that? I asked that question. No response whatsoever. You just wrote my viewpoint off in favor of your own despite no proof or implications that back it. That means your opinion/viewpoint is no more valid than mine yet you continue to say otherwise. Amusing. And no, my posts of Vegeta being different were backed by proof, which you decided to ignore in favor of your own view.

2. So you know me? You've met me? No, you haven't. You don't know a thing about me and that means you have absolutely no right to sit here and assume you do.

[dbzfan7]

Then I must suck at that task cause I filmed him, and took two pictures with Mr. Horikawa.

You did that to study him in order to finish him with minimum efforts.

Fuck I've been found out. My true deep hatred of stopping Mr. Horikawa has been discovered. I also failed with Sabat too when I met him. Then hanging out with Goku and Gohan's Schemmel and Hebert didn't make them push out all the other characters. Curses.

1. Then perhaps you should post like it instead of like this

Vegeta doesn't care about that. He's all about one upping Goku. He ain't doing that while picking up Goku's prey. They still to this day try to out do each other. If he really wanted to show his stuff, and since he's supposed to be Goku's equal, he woulda fought Freeza at his best and won. He'd then have outdid Goku, which he even mentions in BOG as that is something he still tries to do. And if he was really trying to be careful with Freeza, he'd have one shotted him. Freeza was so weak he couldn't hurt Goku no more after their fight ended. Vegeta coulda one shotted Freeza then and there if he wanted to be careful.

Where you sit here and act like what you're saying is fact. How do you know Vegeta doesn't care about that? I asked that question. No response whatsoever. You just wrote my viewpoint off in favor of your own despite no proof or implications that back it. That means your opinion/viewpoint is no more valid than mine.

2. So you know me? You've met me? No, you haven't. You don't know a thing about me and that means you have absolutely no right to sit here and assume you do.

Yeah which is exactly what he showed in Battle of Gods. I say Vegeta doesn't care about that as if he were cautious, he'd have ended things the moment he had the chance. He had ample time to finish of Freeza considering one blow is all he needed. If he also truly put everything over his pride, he'd work with Goku to end it all. However neither of them do that as they're both prideful. Both want to push themselves and be the best. That hasn't changed. Vegeta is clearly different from his past self as he wouldn't do anything he did in the Boo saga and before that again, but he still holds pride excessively like always. But so does Goku. Which is a flaw they both share. This is my view. Which is supported. I do support Vegeta has changed, but not that drastically.

Seen the "If you don't like it too bad" claims from the past with Kamiccolo, and you label someone who see's Horikawa twice as well as Sabat a Vegeta hater. And seriously believes that!

[Birusu16]

Then I must suck at that task cause I filmed him, and took two pictures with Mr. Horikawa.

You did that to study him in order to finish him with minimum efforts.

Fuck I've been found out. My true deep hatred of stopping Mr. Horikawa has been discovered. I also failed with Sabat too when I met him. Then hanging out with Goku and Gohan's Schemmel and Hebert didn't make them push out all the other characters. Curses.

1. Then perhaps you should post like it instead of like this

Vegeta doesn't care about that. He's all about one upping Goku. He ain't doing that while picking up Goku's prey. They still to this day try to out do each other. If he really wanted to show his stuff, and since he's supposed to be Goku's equal, he woulda fought Freeza at his best and won. He'd then have outdid Goku, which he even mentions in BOG as that is something he still tries to do. And if he was really trying to be careful with Freeza, he'd have one shotted him. Freeza was so weak he couldn't hurt Goku no more after their fight ended. Vegeta coulda one shotted Freeza then and there if he wanted to be careful.

Where you sit here and act like what you're saying is fact. How do you know Vegeta doesn't care about that? I asked that question. No response whatsoever. You just wrote my viewpoint off in favor of your own despite no proof or implications that back it. That means your opinion/viewpoint is no more valid than mine.

2. So you know me? You've met me? No, you haven't. You don't know a thing about me and that means you have absolutely no right to sit here and assume you do.

Yeah which is exactly what he showed in Battle of Gods. I say Vegeta doesn't care about that as if he were cautious, he'd have ended things the moment he had the chance. He had ample time to finish of Freeza considering one blow is all he needed. If he also truly put everything over his pride, he'd work with Goku to end it all. However neither of them do that as they're both prideful. Both want to push themselves and be the best. That hasn't changed. Vegeta is clearly different from his past self as he wouldn't do anything he did in the Boo saga and before that again, but he still holds pride excessively like always. But so does Goku. Which is a flaw they both share.

Seen the "If you don't like it too bad" claims from the past with Kamiccolo, and you label someone who see's Horikawa twice as well as Sabat a Vegeta hater. And seriously believes that!

1. So you can read Vegeta's mind? Because you're still presenting this as fact when it's not. I'm just waiting for you to crawl out of Vegeta's head because from the posts you're making it certainly sounds like you're in there or at least think you are. Too bad it'll never be a fact because all you've got is baseless assumptions. No evidence, no implications, nothing. Sorry.

2. And you label someone you don't even know bias and seriously believes that! Please keep on with your little I'm innocent charade. You're not fooling anyone.

Anyway, I'm done with you. You have no proof. You ignore other peoples views in favor of your own. And you're full of double standards to top it all off. Not exactly a guy I care to continue debating with. Good day.

[dbzfan7]

2. And you label someone you don't even know bias and seriously believes that! Please keep on with your little I'm innocent charade. You're not fooling anyone.

Anyway, I'm done with you. Good day.

Apparently only you.

Hooray something to agree on...but it's good afternoon here pal

[MajinMan]

So can someone tell me if Goku kills Freeza in his base form or his Blue SSJ? Is it up in Freeza's face or is it from far away?

[Doctor.]

So can someone tell me if Goku kills Freeza in his base form or his Blue SSJ? Is it up in Freeza's face or is it from far away?

I haven't watched the movie, but I assume it was in base form, since Freeza was in his 4th form, and from far away, since Vegeta was the one close by.

[MajinMan]

So can someone tell me if Goku kills Freeza in his base form or his Blue SSJ? Is it up in Freeza's face or is it from far away?

I haven't watched the movie, but I assume it was in base form, since Freeza was in his 4th form, and from far away, since Vegeta was the one close by.

I would've liked it more if he appeared in Freeza's face out of nowhere and killed him, shocking and pissing of Vegeta more lol.

[Birusu16]

I need to know what the dialogue between Freeza and Beerus was like. Can anyone who's seen the movie chime in? I'd really appreciate it.

[bubibartra]

You can think that all you want. When I talk to someone who's actually seen the movie, we see eye to eye and have a fair discussion. Not once there did I ever come off as poor. If anything we sorted out a misunderstanding a few pages back. When someone who's seen the movie, understands my point, agree's with it to an extent, and then tosses his own theory in, then chances are I'm not so hypocritical or delusional. If someone who's seen the movie understands and recognizes my points, then they aren't biased or full of hot air. Especially when I thought some of his points and theories were good ones.

It's funny because everyone who has seen the movie, said that the role of vegeta has been very good.

[dbzfan7]

You can think that all you want. When I talk to someone who's actually seen the movie, we see eye to eye and have a fair discussion. Not once there did I ever come off as poor. If anything we sorted out a misunderstanding a few pages back. When someone who's seen the movie, understands my point, agree's with it to an extent, and then tosses his own theory in, then chances are I'm not so hypocritical or delusional. If someone who's seen the movie understands and recognizes my points, then they aren't biased or full of hot air. Especially when I thought some of his points and theories were good ones.

It's funny because everyone who has seen the movie, said that the role of vegeta has been very good.

Never said it was bad (Lacking maybe or overrated). I'd have liked it to be better personally.

[bubibartra]

You can think that all you want. When I talk to someone who's actually seen the movie, we see eye to eye and have a fair discussion. Not once there did I ever come off as poor. If anything we sorted out a misunderstanding a few pages back. When someone who's seen the movie, understands my point, agree's with it to an extent, and then tosses his own theory in, then chances are I'm not so hypocritical or delusional. If someone who's seen the movie understands and recognizes my points, then they aren't biased or full of hot air. Especially when I thought some of his points and theories were good ones.

It's funny because everyone who has seen the movie, said that the role of vegeta has been very good.

Never said it was bad (Lacking maybe or overrated). I'd have liked it to be better personally.

Well, I guess previews were filled with fans of Vegeta.

All the reviews of people that have seen the film suggest one thing, but you who not see the film presupposes that being overrated. and then says "biased" are the others....

[buutenks]

I wonder did freeza die when the earth exploded.

[ekrolo2]

Well, I guess previews were filled with fans of Vegeta.

All the reviews of people that have seen the film suggest one thing, but you who not see the film presupposes that being overrated. and then says "biased" are the others....

Ah, the old "you haven't done this so your opinion doesn't matter" argument, how I loathe it. Let me fill you in on something, the majority typically falls into likes or dislikes camps when it comes to basically anything, not always as there are divisive pieces of work out there like Man of Steel, but majoritively they think on one thing or another. Now, everyone I talked who watch say Iron Man 3 found it to be amazing and yada yada yada, while I think it's a gargantuan piece of crap because humans are thinking creatures that don't need nor shouldn't need to fall back on what the majority says or does to validate their opinions or to defend them.

You called him biased for complaining about the movie having not seen it, fair enough, but I want you to remember this: if him not seeing the movie makes his or anyone else's complaints invalid or biased, then any defense YOU bring up to argue with him or anyone else is equally invalid and biased because you haven't seen the movie either. Who's to say the very thing you're defending won't majorly piss you off when you see it? Who's to say he won't like it after seeing it himself?

To all on this forum, either let us voice our opinions on this thread weather they be positive or negative depending on the same information available to all of us or stop using these half-assed counter arguments to shut up anyone who has a complaint to voice.

[Monkey King Vegeta]

I've completly lost any hope for Vegeta to get his shinning moment, if it wasn't against Frieza, it probably won't happen.

Seems lame that Goku was taken out by outside interfernce and Vegeta was beating up an already beaten lizard dude, and to top it off he rage-quits and is declared as the winner!

But wait theres more, Whis happens to save everyone just so Goku can do what he has been doing for all the previous 13(?) films.... sigh...

Anyways, is there anything new ragarding the Super Cyan form? I know its coming to Xenoverse but nothing really exciting if you ask me.

well at least Vegeta got to big bang the original Super Saiyan God Super Cyan.

[buutenks]

Most are complaining about plot details,which watching or not watching makes no difference.

Watching the movie wont suddenly make piccolo own shisame will it?Him losing to him is still there doesnt matter how you slice it.

The movie seems to have some issue with being caught off guard.Apparently everyone is caught off guard lol.

I'm sure the movie is awesome in terms of combat and what happens on screen,put consistently I'm sure its full of holes like any other fiction.Reason why i dislike comics is due to power fluctuations of characters,now they are strong,next issues they are weaker and so on.

Seems ROF did a bit like comics do.

Also why didnt whis port vegeta also?

[SRB2Unleashed]

"And they made him (Mr. Popo) blue in Kai which makes no sense"

...Really Sabat?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJIqQLafdYM

[ShadowWolf87]

"And they made him (Mr. Popo) blue in Kai which makes no sense"

...Really Sabat?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJIqQLafdYM

You're kidding. He actually said that?

Has he not watched his own work?

[ekrolo2]

They did make him blue in the heavily censored Toonzai version of Kai.

[ShadowWolf87]

I've completly lost any hope for Vegeta to get his shinning moment, if it wasn't against Freeza, it probably won't happen.

Seems lame that Goku was taken out by outside interfernce and Vegeta was beating up an already beaten lizard dude, and to top it off he rage-quits and is declared as the winner!

But wait theres more, Whis happens to save everyone just so Goku can do what he has been doing for all the previous 13(?) films.... sigh...

Anyways, is there anything new ragarding the Super Cyan form? I know its coming to Xenoverse but nothing really exciting if you ask me.

well at least Vegeta got to big bang the original Super Saiyan God Super Cyan.

The "other 13 films" have no bearing, this is in-canon. Goku's also forced to do something that generally goes against his own beliefs for the sake of the entire world after watching it die, something he'll always have to live with.

So there's that.