Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[ekrolo2]

If Freeza say killed Bulma or Trunks and Vegeta was in no mood to give him a chance in hell of winning and just wanted to beat him to death I'd be okay with this, but he didn't do anything bad enough to warrant that.

Killing him on Namek didn't warrant that ?

Blowing up his original home Planet then coming to his new one to do the same which would kill Bulma&Trunks didn't warrant that ?

His son killed Freeza, avenging Vegeta himself and the entire Saiyan's as a result with Goku breaking his pride on Namek. Vegeta put his whole thing with Freeza behind him. The only Vegeta who keeps himself awake at night over FRREEEZZZAAA! is an imaginary one people are canoning inside their heads. Hell, even the blogs for this movie Vegeta says he couldn't give less of a f*ck about Freeza at this point, he has long since surpassed him.

[mAcChaos]

I've completly lost any hope for Vegeta to get his shinning moment.

Vegeta getting Freeza to kneel before him isn't a shinning moment ? people who saw it are saying it's one of the best moments in the entire series and got the best part of the movie's animation and personally it's the best thing he's gotten as of now and I think it'll be hard for Toriyama to top it.

Vegeta beating on a defenseless Freeza who's already exhausted and beaten to hell by GOKU no less is not a shining moment, them both fighting at full power in a climactic battle in which Vegeta won due to his superior strength & determination is a shinning moment. This is nothing but a blegh role reversal of what Freeza did to Vegeta at the end of their Namek fight which doesn't work for Vegeta's character. Freeza's a sadist and Vegeta had basically been screwing him over since he got there so it make senses. Vegeta should've given him a Senzu and fought him properly. Might be less pragmatic but a lot more in-character.

It's not that different than Vegeta saving the day with 19 and thrashing him and that was one of his finest hours.

[ekrolo2]

Vegeta beating on a defenseless Freeza who's already exhausted and beaten to hell by GOKU no less is not a shining moment, them both fighting at full power in a climactic battle in which Vegeta won due to his superior strength & determination is a shinning moment. This is nothing but a blegh role reversal of what Freeza did to Vegeta at the end of their Namek fight which doesn't work for Vegeta's character. Freeza's a sadist and Vegeta had basically been screwing him over since he got there so it make senses. Vegeta should've given him a Senzu and fought him properly. Might be less pragmatic but a lot more in-character.

It's not that different than Vegeta saving the day with 19 and thrashing him and that was one of his finest hours.

Not to me, it's just a generic curb stomp where he's basically like "IMA SUPER SAIYAN!" and high off his own power. I'd sooner call Vegeta's escape from Freeza's ship, attacking Cell after seeing Trunks die and blowing himself up to atone for his latest screw up as a way better shining moments.

[Noah]

Oh, half bad... Thanks for the anwsers.

So Goku eat the Senzu and then go back to the battlefield just to vaporize Freeza for good in the middle of his fight with Vegeta? lol

[sintzu]

So Goku eat the Senzu and then go back to the battlefield just to vaporize Freeza for good in the middle of his fight with Vegeta? lol

The fight was over when Goku stepped in.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Oh, half bad... Thanks for the anwsers.

So Goku eat the Senzu and then go back to the battlefield just to vaporize Freeza for good in the middle of his fight with Vegeta? lol

Well I think he ate the senzu bean long before he jumped it, I think he just let Vegeta do his own thing and then Freeza blew up the Earth and then Whis rewound time then Goku jumps in. I think that is how it goes.

[Low Tone G]

I can not keep up with this thread... I don't even want to now... After I will watch it I will share my views, but my opinion now is very negative.

[buutenks]

Giving freeza a senzu bean,it does sound retarded,though goku gave cell one so hehe.But considering freeza already blew up earth while heavily weakened,imagine what hed do if hed be desperate and at full power.

[ekrolo2]

Giving freeza a senzu bean,it does sound retarded,though goku gave cell one so hehe.But considering freeza already blew up earth while heavily weakened,imagine what hed do if hed be desperate and at full power.

He'd still lose due to the fact he (stupidly) went to fight Goku without mastering his new form which caused his power to drop faster than an SSJ3. Besides, Freeza blew up the Earth subtly, if he tried to do it in a bombastic way there's no way Vegeta would've let him pull it off. Probably would've killed him on the spot if he did.

[Doctor.]

Giving freeza a senzu bean.

What...? They didn't.

[Black_Liger]

uhg, the negativity about this movie sickens me to no end. 80% or 90% like the movie. the other 10% has not even watch it, let alone read the synopsis with actual care.

[rereboy]

uhg, the negativity about this movie sickens me to no end. 80% or 90% like the movie. the other 10% has not even watch it, let alone read the synopsis with actual care.

They just don't like some plot points.

[ShadowWolf87]

Vegeta beating on a defenseless Freeza who's already exhausted and beaten to hell by GOKU no less is not a shining moment.

No matter how you look at it,getting a main villain to kneel before him is a shinning moment.

An already tired main villain hitting his knees in exhaustion*

[FortuneSSJ]

-About the Fnf manga-
Just read another version of chapter 2 and I feel like I read a bootleg version this time. Not only the translation was bad (full of curse words) but there was like 5 pages missing.

-About the girls song-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkiqA98 ... xSwVBaeRRg
Just felt in love with the videoclip. The editing is awesome and love their vibe,

I think I fell in love with the girl that portrays Goku

The song turn out to be better than I expected. Can't wait to see the final version.

[buutenks]

Giving freeza a senzu bean,it does sound retarded,though goku gave cell one so hehe.But considering freeza already blew up earth while heavily weakened,imagine what hed do if hed be desperate and at full power.

He'd still lose due to the fact he (stupidly) went to fight Goku without mastering his new form which caused his power to drop faster than an SSJ3. Besides, Freeza blew up the Earth subtly, if he tried to do it in a bombastic way there's no way Vegeta would've let him pull it off. Probably would've killed him on the spot if he did.

Ah true true,end result would have been the same,whis turning back time and goku killing freeza or something like that.

Giving freeza a senzu bean.

What...? They didn't.

No no,i meant that it would be reatrded if vegeta would have done that,even though goku did it vs cell hehe ^^


BTW any know if freeza survived earth blowing up?Cos if he did i guess that means he also won were it not for whis ^^.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Yeah the song so far is not bad at all and since it is for credits only I have no problem with it anymore.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Giving freeza a senzu bean,it does sound retarded,though goku gave cell one so hehe.But considering freeza already blew up earth while heavily weakened,imagine what hed do if hed be desperate and at full power.

It seems to be dwelling far back into reversing his characterization greatly having him get chumy with Freeza. The only reason he gave Cell a Bean was because Cell was calm and wanted a good fight. He also knew Gohan was stronger than him and thus Goku gave him the bean out of Fellow Saiyan respect. Him giving on to Freza is beyond cocky. I get that he doesn't hold grudges but its as logical as giving on to Broly or Kid Buu.

[ekrolo2]

Giving freeza a senzu bean,it does sound retarded,though goku gave cell one so hehe.But considering freeza already blew up earth while heavily weakened,imagine what hed do if hed be desperate and at full power.

It seems to be dwelling far back into reversing his characterization greatly having him get chumy with Freeza. The only reason he gave Cell a Bean was because Cell was calm and wanted a good fight. He also knew Gohan was stronger than him and thus Goku gave him the bean out of Fellow Saiyan respect. Him giving on to Freza is beyond cocky. I get that he doesn't hold grudges but its as logical as giving on to Broly or Kid Buu.

You do know this is Vegeta right?

[DBZ_Lee]

The way I see it, is that Goku defeated Freeza, this is what happened - everyone who has seen the movie has confirmed this. It was Freeza who was utterly defeated by Goku, having been hit by the giant Kamehameha.
Then, Goku lets his guard down, and is taken out by Sorbet. Then, Vegeta steps in, at the point where Freeza is exhausted, and already defeated - I'm not taking away Vegeta's moment, he deserves it, I'm a big fan of Vegeta, and just as much as anyone else in this thread, he's easily one of my favourite characters.
But you cannot deny that Goku did all of the legwork in this fight, and Vegeta got the scraps leftover, and rightfully gave the evil overlord a revenge style beating.

Vegeta had an opportunity to fight Golden Freeza immediately after he transformed, and turned it down - this for me is good, as it keeps Vegeta in character - he fights calculatingly, and thinks about every move, something which is pointed out by Whis during training.
So Vegeta wanted to enter the fight at a point where he would have a clear advantage - we see this throughout the story, he very seldom fights straight off the bat against opponents he doesn't think he can beat.

This scenario is what has been pointed out in the thread before by other members, it acts as a training exercise for Goku & Vegeta. Vegeta is slow to react - he wanted to face Freeza when he was in his "final form" most likely because he knew Freeza wouldn't be able to deal with him, as he has grown far stronger since the Namek Arc. His reluctance to face Freeza after his "golden" transformation, when he thought he may not be able to beat him. Whilst on the other hand, Goku is too relaxed - and we see this with the sneak attack from Sorbet, catching him unaware.

No matter how you look at it, Vegeta merely gets a chance to beat on Freeza, who was shattered at this point, having been going at full power simply to keep up with Goku, and hit by a giant Kamehameha, he gets his moment of redemption which he thoroughly deserves.

A win all around really. I can't wait to see this film!.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Giving freeza a senzu bean,it does sound retarded,though goku gave cell one so hehe.But considering freeza already blew up earth while heavily weakened,imagine what hed do if hed be desperate and at full power.

It seems to be dwelling far back into reversing his characterization greatly having him get chumy with Freeza. The only reason he gave Cell a Bean was because Cell was calm and wanted a good fight. He also knew Gohan was stronger than him and thus Goku gave him the bean out of Fellow Saiyan respect. Him giving on to Freza is beyond cocky. I get that he doesn't hold grudges but its as logical as giving on to Broly or Kid Buu.

You do know this is Vegeta right?

You mean Vegeta gave him the bean? I might have missed that tidbit.

No matter how you look at it, Vegeta merely gets a chance to beat on Freeza, who was shattered at this point, having been going at full power simply to keep up with Goku, and hit by a giant Kamehameha, he gets his moment of redemption which he thoroughly deserves.

A win all around really. I can't wait to see this film!.

From a story perspective it's not a good idea to focus on the good Saiyans. There's no drama if we do. Those Saiyans that committed atrocities were specifically chosen to do so and became ignorant as a result. A story of one of them being heroic is interesting, the others not so much.