Is Kid Boo stronger than Super Boo?

[Confidence Matters]

Goku would rather fuse permanently than deal with Super Boo, and would rather fight Kid Boo alone because he doesn't feel fusion is necessary.

Show me where anywhere it is stated that fusion won't be necessary to deal with Kid Boo. What actually happens is, Goku decline ONLY because of saiyan Pride and Honor, and because Vegeta wouldn't fuse again anyhow. Not to mention he tried to look cool and show off in front of Vegeta. He is still trying to figure out a plan after he declined it due to those very specific reasons.

It's pretty simple. Boo's power increases when he becomes the huge Kaioshin Boo...only to decrease when his following transformation is complete. All of this is as straight-forward as it possibly can be.

Except nothing is ever stated regarding S. Kaioshin's effect on Kid Boo.

Your only piece of evidence hold no weight whatsoever since Goku & Vegeta arrogantly and falsely assessed Kid Boo when they first see him.

Look at their arrogant faces which heavily insinuates a arrogant tone/expression.

[rereboy]

Your only piece of evidence hold no weight whatsoever since Goku & Vegeta arrogantly and falsely assessed Kid Boo when they first see him.

Look at their arrogant faces which heavily insinuates a arrogant tone/expression.

If they had been wrong, they would have mentioned it so later. They never changed their mind regarding the fact that they had done it and that now his power was manageable enough for them to fight him without having to use fusion, namely Goku.

[Confidence Matters]

S. Kaioshin is only 1 of 2 cases. Fact remains S. Kaishin was never noted to increase nor decrease Kid Boo's power.Only Dai Kaioshin was stated to affect Boo.

Dai Kaioushin was the only one ever stated to affect him negatively. Since nothing is said that indicates that South Kaioushin affected him in any way other than the usual, then you can't simply assume that he didn't affect him at all. Toriyama added all that in specifically to show that the Dai Kaioushin had affected Buu in a negative way, so why would he not have anything mentioning that South Kaioushin affected him differently than usual too?

S. Kaioshin was never stated to affect Kid Boo as usual. What is usual for a Kai's affect on Boo anyhow? Taming/weakening. So by your own logic, "Since nothing is said that indicates that South Kaioushin affected him in any way other than the usual," that means S. kai also decrease Kid Boo's power and thus Kid Boo > Buff Boo.

[KentalSSJ6]

VIZ also has Goku yelling that Oozaru Vegeta killed his Grandpa. Whats your point?

Source?

Chapter 39, page 65, panel 1.

Goku - My Grandpa! You Killed my Grandpa!

Hell Ill even take a picture of it.



And before you give me some "witty" retort, yes I know its from the Full Color version, and the translation is exactly the same as the Vizbigs and singles. So yeah the translation you seem to praise so much has holes in it.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Show me where anywhere it is stated that fusion won't be necessary to deal with Kid Boo.

The part where Goku declines fusion. And the part where Goku fights Kid Boo evenly, while trying to turn him into candy. Kid Boo's stamina and regeneration was the only reason why he had an advantage. The battle shows them to be around the same level, and there's no statement of anyone placing Kid Boo above Goku. Not one. The only thing said is that Kid Boo is stronger than Vegeta thought, along with Super Saiyan 3 Goku.

Meanwhile, Goku would rather hide from Super Boo.

What actually happens is, Goku decline ONLY because of saiyan Pride and Honor

And because of this reason: "But [Boo] ain’t merged anymore either…“

Saiyan pride was apart of it, but Kid Boo's power was another part of it. Would Goku have opted not to use fusion against Super Boo? Yeah. I thought so.

and because Vegeta wouldn't fuse again anyhow.

I don't think this really matters. Goku simply didn't think Kid Boo was worthy enough for them to fuse. He later says the potara would've made it much easier, but both Goku and Vegeta still believe all of his Chi in Super Saiyan 3 would turn Boo into oblivion. There has to be a reason for that conclusion, unless you want to assume they've lost their battle sense entirely.

Not to mention he tried to look cool and show off in front of Vegeta. He is still trying to figure out a plan after he declined it due to those very specific reasons.

He didn't want to immediately jump into battle is all. Not like he had an unlimited bag of tricks at that point, anyway.

Except nothing is ever stated regarding S. Kaioshin's effect on Kid Boo.

Except that his power is increasing as he's entering said form. Even his muscles are shown to increase in conjunction with the power increase. Kid Boo never retained that strength once his form changed--and it's pretty silly to assume he does.

Your only piece of evidence hold no weight whatsoever since Goku & Vegeta arrogantly and falsely assessed Kid Boo when they first see him.

Goku still fought an equal battle with Kid Boo. Your opinion doesn't change that.

Look at their arrogant faces which heavily insinuates a arrogant tone/expression.

Look at Kid Boo trying to turn Goku into candy. So much for holding-back against him.

[Confidence Matters]

If they had been wrong, they would have mentioned it so later. They never changed their mind regarding the fact that they had done it and that now his power was manageable enough for them to fight him without having to use fusion, namely Goku.

Vegeta says he underestimated Kid Boo.

Goku says he thought he could do better against Kid Boo based on that earlier assessment that they BOTH made together when they first saw Kid Boo. Their faces/expression dictates their tone and context - they were being arrogant saiyans. Even after fighting Kid Boo they were overestimating Goku's abilities - he attempted to charge his ki back and reverted to base form.

Overestimation.

Based on Saiyan arrogance.

[rereboy]

If they had been wrong, they would have mentioned it so later. They never changed their mind regarding the fact that they had done it and that now his power was manageable enough for them to fight him without having to use fusion, namely Goku.

Vegeta says he overestimated Kid Boo.

Goku says he thought he could do better against Kid Boo based on that earlier assessment that they BOTH made together when they first saw Kid Boo. Their faces/expression dictates their tone and context - they were being arrogant saiyans. Even after fighting Kid Boo they were overestimating Goku's abilities - he attempted to charge his ki back and reverted to base form.

Overestimation.

Based on Saiyan arrogance.

Don't you mean underestimate? If he had overestimated Kid Buu, Kid Buu would be weaker than he thought. Anyway, Vegeta says that both Kid Buu and SSJ3 Goku are stronger than he thought, not just Kid Buu. Everything, including Vegeta, puts them at around the same level of power.

[Confidence Matters]

The part where Goku declines fusion.

That ain't a statement and I already told you the exact reasons based on the manga statements. Therefore using this reasoning to conclude Goku = Kid Boo holds no weight. Goku even regrets not fusing.

And the part where Goku fights Kid Boo evenly,

no he doesn't

while trying to turn him into candy.

Irrelevant since Boo used that exact same beam on an inferior Dabura.

It means nothing.

Kid Boo's stamina and regeneration was the only reason why he had an advantage.

Where is this stated or illustrated?

The battle shows them to be around the same level

Where is this stated or illustrated?

and there's no statement of anyone placing Kid Boo above Goku. Not one. The only thing said is that Kid Boo is stronger than Vegeta thought, along with Super Saiyan 3 Goku.

Feats > statements.

- Kid Boo would have killed Goku SSJ3 1on1.

- Elder Kai insisted they fuse again. Because Kid Boo was still stronger than them both attacking together at full power.

- If Kid Boo was inferior to or equal to Goku SSj3, he would have resorted to absorption, absorbing Vegeta or Goku himself (he didn't).

- Kid Boo didn't take Goku serious because after eating a full power kamehameha, he laughs and trolls around.

etc.

Meanwhile, Goku would rather hide from Super Boo.

And he was also planning to hide from Kid Boo until they thought of something.

What actually happens is, Goku decline ONLY because of saiyan Pride and Honor

And because of this reason: "But [Boo] ain’t merged anymore either…“

Saiyan pride was apart of it, but Kid Boo's power was another part of it. Would Goku have opted not to use fusion against Super Boo? Yeah. I thought so.

When Super Boo appeared inside Boo, they both transformed into SSJ1 and got in their fighting stance, ready to fight Super Boo without fusion.

Your logic is broken, once again.

Plus Goku regrets not fusing and showing off.

I don't think this really matters. Goku simply didn't think Kid Boo was worthy enough for them to fuse. He later says the potara would've made it much easier, but both Goku and Vegeta still believe all of his Chi in Super Saiyan 3 would turn Boo into oblivion.

Erroneously, since they attempted to fight on their own and almost got killed. They failed on their own, plain and simple. They overestimated Goku and SSJ3, period. Vegeta even says he underestimated Kid Boo.

There has to be a reason for that conclusion, unless you want to assume they've lost their battle sense entirely.

They were simply too arrogant. Goku says he wanted to show off in front of Vegeta. He REGRETS not fusing.

He didn't want to immediately jump into battle is all. Not like he had an unlimited bag of tricks at that point, anyway.

LOL what? That is my POINT! He fought Kid Boo head-to-head because he had no other choice. Vegeta wasn't going to fuse with Goku again, and the fact that Goku decided to show off was because he was arrogant.

Except that his power is increasing as he's entering said form. Even his muscles are shown to increase in conjunction with the power increase. Kid Boo never retained that strength once his form changed--and it's pretty silly to assume he does.

SUPER BOO was the one who got stronger upon transforming Buff Boo. Not Kid Boo.

Super Boo minus Good Boo equals Kid Boo. Good Boo represents all Kais. Once he was disconnected, that power generated was from Kid Boo because that was the ONLY reserve left in Boo's system - his own ki.

Goku still fought an equal battle with Kid Boo. Your opinion doesn't change that.

In your fan-fiction, perhaps, but in the actual manga, Goku didn't do a degree of damage to Kid Boo (even though he fired 2 full-powered kamehameha's at Kid Boo, which he ate) while Goku was beat up and huffing and puffing. So much for "equal," you remind me of MMA's Cecil Peoples ahaha

Look at Kid Boo trying to turn Goku into candy. So much for holding-back against him.

Nah man. Fat Boo used that beam on a clearly inferior Dabura too. By your logic, Goku is clearly inferior to Kid Boo.

[Deathbringer]

Serious question: what is the maximum strength of the chocolate beam? Is it possible for Boo to turn a whole planet into chocolate? Or is the attack just a reminder that you're reading what was once a novelty gag manga and doesn't have any true power?

[Confidence Matters]

Don't you mean underestimate? If he had overestimated Kid Buu, Kid Buu would be weaker than he thought.

You are correct, I did mean underestimate referring to Kid Boo, which Vegeta confirms he did.

Anyway, Vegeta says that both Kid Buu and SSJ3 Goku are stronger than he thought, not just Kid Buu. Everything, including Vegeta, puts them at around the same level of power.

It is literally impossible for Vegeta to believe Goku was stronger than he originally thought since Goku was the exact same when he transformed into SSJ3 against Bootenks and didn't change at all in that timespan. Vegeta was already on his way to earth when Goku transformed into full powered SSJ3 against Bootenks, and given that Goku's SSj3 can be felt all the way on Kai's planet from Earth, Vegeta DEFINITELY sensed Goku's full power.

So when Vegeta says Goku is stronger than he imagined (literally impossible LOL), especially after saying Kid Boo is stronger than he imagined, it was to keep Goku's morale up and because SSJ3 is the pinnacle of any pure saiyan power, so Vegeta was just being proud and arrogant as usual.

When Vegeta told Goku to use his full power to finish off Kid Boo, Goku says he has been trying to do so, and that he needs a minute of recharge to kill Boo. But what happened when Goku was 100% fresh as an SSJ3 and blasted Kid Boo with a kamehameha? NOTHING! That was going to happen again if Goku SSJ3 succeeded in recharging and attacked Kid Boo.

Vegeta thinking that would kill Kid Boo is Vegeta being arrogant just because Goku is SSJ3.

If Kid Boo spontaneously would have turned into Boohan again, I bet ol' change-of-heart, cheerleading Vegeta would have told Goku "You can do it, kakarot! SSJ3 is so awesome, finish him off with your full power!"

[rereboy]

And Goku as well. And then Vegeta immediatly adds that Goku will be able to defeat Kid Buu if he uses all of his power.

[Hitiro]

@Confidence Matters
I'm still waiting for you to explain why Pure Boo had to absorb Dai Kaioshin. Because Pure Boo isn't going to lose to Dai Kaioshin when Mr. Boo, who is basically Dai Kaioshin himself, is completely losing to Pure Boo. The only possible reason for Pure Boo wanting to absorb Dai Kaioshin is if S. Kaioshin did in fact boost his power.

[Darkprince410]

Show me where anywhere it is stated that fusion won't be necessary to deal with Kid Boo. What actually happens is, Goku decline ONLY because of saiyan Pride and Honor, and because Vegeta wouldn't fuse again anyhow. Not to mention he tried to look cool and show off in front of Vegeta. He is still trying to figure out a plan after he declined it due to those very specific reasons.

And yet when it came down to it, he was still willing to try and was confident to the very end that he could have defeated Pure Buu. What makes you think that their "plan of action" involved "how" they were going to defeat Buu? Given that they believed he couldn't reach Kaioushin Kai, their attempts to plan could have been just as much about where they were going to fight him, rather than how they were going fight him. They needed to figure out some place to get to, and then figure out some way of getting Buu there to fight him. Seems like something they'd need a plan for if you ask me.

Except nothing is ever stated regarding S. Kaioshin's effect on Kid Boo.

Nothing is ever stated regarding it, so there's no reason to assume whatsoever that his was anything different than the norm. We're given the precedent that all warriors absorbed by Buu has made them stronger, and the only reason the term "warrior" is used there is because Rou Kaioushin isn't aware of any of the Kaioushin being absorbed. So absorbing beings normally makes Buu stronger, and then suddenly, we're told of one, and only one, instance of an absorption working differently than usual, in this case being Dai Kaioushin.

Did it ever occur to you that Toriyama may not have put in any mention of Buu's strength changing after absorbing South simply because he already felt it was set in stone how the absorptions normally work? By your logic, any time someone transformed into a Super Saiya-jin and there wasn't a stated increase in power, then they obviously didn't grow stronger. Even though it's clearly shown before that transforming increases power, any time there's no mention of a strength increase, by your logic, they didn't grow stronger.

Where is this stated or illustrated?

Goku: “…Dammit…! Like I thought, even if I keep doing the same thing, that bastard’s stamina doesn’t fall…! He just returns to being good as new right away…”

Nothing about his strength being too high or anything like that, purely that his stamina wasn't diminishing whatsoever.

- Kid Boo would have killed Goku SSJ3 1on1.

Yet he never did. By the logic you've been using all this time, since he never did, then that means he wasn't capable of doing so.

- Kid Boo didn't take Goku serious because after eating a full power kamehameha, he laughs and trolls around.

By Goku's own admission though, neither of the Kamehamehas he used against Buu were at full power, as he states later, when Vegeta tells him to do that, that he hasn't gotten the chance to yet.

[Confidence Matters]

And Goku as well. And then Vegeta immediatly adds that Goku will be able to defeat Kid Buu if he uses all of his power.

When Vegeta says Goku is stronger than he imagined (literally impossible LOL), especially after saying Kid Boo is stronger than he imagined, it was to keep Goku's morale up and because SSJ3 is the pinnacle of any pure saiyan power, so Vegeta was just being proud and arrogant as usual.

When Vegeta told Goku to use his full power to finish off Kid Boo, Goku says he has been trying to do so, and that he needs a minute of recharge to kill Boo. But what happened when Goku was 100% fresh as an SSJ3 and blasted Kid Boo with a kamehameha? NOTHING! That was going to happen again if Goku SSJ3 succeeded in recharging and attacked Kid Boo.

Vegeta thinking that would kill Kid Boo is Vegeta being arrogant just because Goku is SSJ3.

If Kid Boo spontaneously would have turned into Boohan again, I bet ol' change-of-heart, cheerleading Vegeta would have told Goku "You can do it, kakarot! SSJ3 is so awesome, finish him off with your full power!"

[Confidence Matters]

@Confidence Matters
I'm still waiting for you to explain why Pure Boo had to absorb Dai Kaioshin. Because Pure Boo isn't going to lose to Dai Kaioshin when Mr. Boo, who is basically Dai Kaioshin himself, is completely losing to Pure Boo. The only possible reason for Pure Boo wanting to absorb Dai Kaioshin is if S. Kaioshin did in fact boost his power.

Where are you getting that Dai Kaioshin is equal to Fat Boo? LOL.

And the manga does not say why he had to absorb Dai Kaioshin - OR the Southern Kaishin neither, for that matter.

Anything I or anyone really says about that situation is 100% speculation. Therefore irrelevant.Unless Akira wants to make a movie about it, which seems to be the norm nowadays... and a movie about the first Gotenks vs. Fat Boo fight...

[Darkprince410]

When Vegeta told Goku to use his full power to finish off Kid Boo, Goku says he has been trying to do so, and that he needs a minute of recharge to kill Boo. But what happened when Goku was 100% fresh as an SSJ3 and blasted Kid Boo with a kamehameha? NOTHING! That was going to happen again if Goku SSJ3 succeeded in recharging and attacked Kid Boo.

That's not what he said though. Goku said he's been thinking of doing it, but hasn't had the chance to yet.

Goku: “Ye…yeah…I’ve been thinking of doing that as well since awhile back, but…I haven’t gotten the chance.”

Nothing about it being something that he's been trying to do so far but hasn't been able to, but that he's been thinking about doing it, but hasn't had the chance to yet. "Thinking" about doing something and "trying" to do something are two very different things.

[Hitiro]

Where are you getting that Dai Kaioshin is equal to Fat Boo? LOL.

And the manga does not say why he had to absorb Dai Kaioshin - OR the Southern Kaishin neither, for that matter.

Anything I or anyone really says about that situation is 100% speculation. Therefore irrelevant.Unless Akira wants to make a movie about it, which seems to be the norm nowadays... and a movie about the first Gotenks vs. Fat Boo fight...

Mr. Boo was the one stopping Evil Boo's power from increasing any higher. You remove Mr. Boo from Evil Boo, he becomes S. Kaioshin Boo which is stronger. The absorption of the Dai Kaioshin made Fat Boo. Only the Dai Kaioshin lowered Boo's power. Therefore Mr. Boo must be the Dai Kaioshin influence/power. It is only logical.

Well you're spouting things like S. Kaioshin didn't increase or decrease Boo's power. That is an opinion because we don't know if that is a fact. And considering that it is your opinion that S. Kaioshin didn't offer any boost then you must justify your opinion by explaining why he absorbed both characters.

I can tell you exactly how it would work if S. Kaioshin was an increase in power. Pure Boo fought against S. Kaioshin and, S. Kaioshin being the strongest of the Kaioshin, put up a fight that risked Pure Boo's life. Forcing Pure Boo to absorb him. Pure Boo received a boost from the absorption and like any other person would think absorption is a good thing. He comes across Dai Kaioshin who is no match for him and then proceeds to absorb the Dai Kaioshin thinking it will increase his power. Which leads to his power decreasing.

Now unless you can explain to me how this would work if S. Kaioshin doesn't offer any benefit then I'd really like to hear it. Otherwise you don't have much of a case for the whole "S. Kaioshin didn't affect him at all." theory.

[Confidence Matters]

And yet when it came down to it, he was still willing to try and was confident to the very end that he could have defeated Pure Buu.

Overconfidence.

What makes you think that their "plan of action" involved "how" they were going to defeat Buu? Given that they believed he couldn't reach Kaioushin Kai, their attempts to plan could have been just as much about where they were going to fight him, rather than how they were going fight him. They needed to figure out some place to get to, and then figure out some way of getting Buu there to fight him. Seems like something they'd need a plan for if you ask me.

Except after rejecting the potaras, Goku says something along the lines of "Don't worry, we'll think of a plan" - ensuring they're going to come up with another plan to STRATEGIZE something against Kid Boo that wasn't fusing.

#ContextIsKey

Nothing is ever stated regarding it, so there's no reason to assume whatsoever that his was anything different than the norm. We're given the precedent that all warriors absorbed by Buu has made them stronger,

Southern kai isn't a warrior, he is a KAI. He is part of no precedence, he was the very first one.

and the only reason the term "warrior" is used there is because Rou Kaioushin isn't aware of any of the Kaioushin being absorbed. So absorbing beings normally makes Buu stronger,

Absorbing WARRIORS is proven to make Boo stronger. Kais aren't warriors.

and then suddenly, we're told of one, and only one, instance of an absorption working differently than usual, in this case being Dai Kaioushin.

Kibito Kai said Boo was still PURE EVIL until he absorbed Dai Kaioshin. That is how he singled Dai Kaioshin out. This means Southern Kai didn't affect Kid Boo.


If we're going by the original manga, that is.

Which means Kid Boo = Buff Boo.

[Confidence Matters]

When Vegeta told Goku to use his full power to finish off Kid Boo, Goku says he has been trying to do so, and that he needs a minute of recharge to kill Boo. But what happened when Goku was 100% fresh as an SSJ3 and blasted Kid Boo with a kamehameha? NOTHING! That was going to happen again if Goku SSJ3 succeeded in recharging and attacked Kid Boo.

That's not what he said though. Goku said he's been thinking of doing it, but hasn't had the chance to yet.

Goku: “Ye…yeah…I’ve been thinking of doing that as well since awhile back, but…I haven’t gotten the chance.”

Nothing about it being something that he's been trying to do so far but hasn't been able to, but that he's been thinking about doing it, but hasn't had the chance to yet. "Thinking" about doing something and "trying" to do something are two very different things.

VizBig says Tryin'

[Duo]

Please. Please. Please read this slowly. I took a lot of time to explain my points to you in a fully clear manner this time.

The Appeal to Popularity has the following form:

1)Most people approve of X (have favorable emotions towards X).
2)Therefore X is true.

This is literally your argument in regards to why Herms lines are better than the VizBig edition of the manga.

You have completely mis-read what I said, to the point that I'm becoming convinced that you do not fully understand English. I did not claim "most people", I appealed to legitimate authority/expertise in the matter. There are many members of the Dragon Ball online community that are fluent in both languages. If the majority of them are saying the exact same thing (ex: This line does not contain a reference to the term "soul" in the original Japanese), then that demonstrates a mistake on the part of Viz. That's not a popularity contest. You are severely misinterpreting my point for the sake of your argument, which makes you look like you do not understand the discussion taking place.

You talk about secondary fact-checking, yet I guarantee you that you don't know fluent japanese, much less how to translate japanese to english coherently, and that you have not checked the ENTIRE original DBZ manga and then checked to see if Herms' lines are 100% accurate yourself. Nor have you compared the original jap manga to the VizBig edition of the manga to see if they're incorrect.

You're going by what others are saying.

Right. So does that mean I have to study global climate in order to believe climate change takes place? Because what you are saying implies that I should disregard the consensus of the scientific community because I don't have a PhD in climate/weather science.

You have, in claiming I am committing a logical fallacy, committed one yourself. Silly.

Why I'm going with the VIZBIG Ed. of the manga?

IT'S AN OFFICIAL RELEASE OF THE MANGA. NOT FAN-MADE. OFFICIAL.

Again, I'm not really sure if you understand me.

I asked you why you are focued on the VizBig (LOOK, I BOLDED IT) release of the manga. Viz has released numerous versions of the manga with the same exact translation. The VizBig edition uses the same translation as the 3-in-1 cheap releases, the older tankobon releases, and the full color edition. There is no difference. You do not need to type the word "VizBig" just "Viz".

It is because you're attributing a DUB error to the VizBig edition of the manga in order to discredit VizBig as a whole. VizBig editions of the manga, it's the manga, takes precedence over anything FUNI has ever said ever.

No, that is not what I did at all. For the third time in this post, I have to question your grasp on English.

Your logic is as follows: Viz = Official translation of the manga = the objectively correct version of the story.

If you apply that same logic to the English dub, you get this: FUNImation = Official translation of the anime = the objectively correct version of the story.

of a non-canon material

Incorrect. That scene takes place in the original manga. Therefore, if FUNImation had translated the manga, then the official version of the manga in English would say that Bardock is a brilliant scientist, and then you would believe that is the true and correct version of the story. How do you not understand how baseless that type of thinking is?

Accurate in whatever timeline Bardock is a scientific genius. Which is in whatever BS non-canon material that has zero to do with the original manga. That's irrelevant.

Not true. It was FUNImations dub of an official scene that took place in the Manga. Since FUNImation produces the "official" English version, that means (again, by your frequently stated "logic") that Bardock invented the moon ball technique that Vegeta uses and that everybody has to agree that such is true in the Anime. Because "official".

Yeahhh, as if you'd know if Herms' lines are 100% accurate or not. The only way you know is because others who have claimed to know jap and claim to be competent in translating from jap to eng "verify" Herms' line.

First point, this has nothing to do with Hermes specifically. Many of his translations have been available and reviewed by numerous secondary experts within the community. The point is that his translations have either stood against educated criticism or been adapted according to said criticism.

Click on these words to education yourself. Read slowly and carefully.

And for all these times you've been calling me out for not knowing Japanese, which you have done so with notable disrespect and childishness, you also do NOT know Japanese and are just appealing to a translation. You have no objective grounds for saying it is more accurate than any other. It has already been demonstrated why that type of thinking is incorrect. Being official does not make something accurate. Another example as to why that doesn't work is the fact that Viz uses the name Hercule instead of Mr. Satan. You don't need to know Japanese to know that's wrong. If you watch the anime in Japanese, you can hear them say the name "Mr. Satan".

I am going to force myself not to engage any replies you offer to this. I owe myself better than this frustration, and there is a staff around that will certainly address you if this keeps up. I don't care that you think kid Buu is stronger than super Buu, but at least try to piece together a decent argument and show some reasonable respect for people who disagree with you and take the time to engage you in discussion.