In my opinion I think he beats the. Ssj4s, Bebi, and Super 17 with ease, Omega in a hard fight, and gets stomped by Gogeta

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I'd agree that he's probably stronger than most of the characters that appear, on the basis that Super Saiyan God characters seem to be stronger than their Super Saiyan 4 counterparts (based on logic from another thread), although really who the hell knows and it depends on where you start GT Goku, which there are a few different plausible arguments for.SpiritBombTriumphant wrote:I assume that Golden Freeza is a God, similar to God Goku and Beerus. Therefore, I think that pretty much any God-level1 character could wipe the floor with any non-God character, Omega Shenron included. However, I'm pretty sure that Toriyama didn't consider any of the GT characters or plot points in creating Battle of Gods or Resurrection "F" since these two movies alone create numerous problems for GT.
"Makes it up there with" as in, is in the same general league? Yi Xing-Long, maybe, but there's another huge gap between Yi Xing-Long and Gogeta, so it's hard to say.Hellspawn28 wrote:So I say that he makes it up to Super Yi Xing Long and SSj4 Gogeta.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Golden Freeza would annihilate Rildo, the SSJ4s, the shadow dragons, and put up a very good match against Omega Shenron before ultimately losing after his power starts to decrease. Against SSJ4 Gogeta, it depends on whose power depletes first, but I'm sure SSJ4 Gogeta would have the upperhand before this happens.
I actually agree that Super 17 would beat him. Not because he's stronger, but because Freeza honestly isn't very smart; he has a low fighting IQ. He just isn't much of a technical fighter, and relies on his power too much. He'd have the upper hand at first, but Super 17 would continue to absorb his energy. Freeza, the moron that he is, wouldn't know what to do against this or even realize what's happening, and start spamming more blasts in desperation, leading to Super 17 becoming god mode and one-shotting him.
Freeza would likely get his body stolen by Bebi before he has a chance to fight him too.
If that's the case, how did Goku, the rest of the Z-Senshi, and the villains, surpass Kami, Kaio, and Kaioshin? Daimao could kill Shenlong, Goku & Piccolo surpassed Kami in the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, Kaio admitted that Vegeta & Nappa were stronger than him, and the Super Saiyans & Dabra were stronger than Kaioshin, not to mention that Boo defeated all 5 of them in the past, with 2 of them ending up dead.SpiritBombTriumphant wrote:I assume that Golden Freeza is a God, similar to God Goku and Beerus. Therefore, I think that pretty much any God-level1 character could wipe the floor with any non-God character, Omega Shenron included.
1 This means Dende is not included.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Because who cares about canonicity when it comes to VS matches?SSJsambosoldier wrote:Why is everyone counting gt? It's not in the same continuity. I put GT as an what if scenario of Beerus and Whis never met the Z warriors.
ekrolo2 wrote:Because who cares about canonicity when it comes to VS matches?SSJsambosoldier wrote:Why is everyone counting gt? It's not in the same continuity. I put GT as an what if scenario of Beerus and Whis never met the Z warriors.