Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Doctor.]

I wonder... if Goku failed to stop Freeza when Whis reversed time, could Whis reverse it again? Or would the effects be permanent this time?

[sintzu]

Vegeta Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Akira Toriyama's desings in HQ.

Spoiler:

Is it just me or does he look kind of old in Toriyama's art ?

The pics from the movie look extremely epic.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

This is kind of random, but did anyone else find the title card really cool? Also noticed the version of Head CHA-LA that they used was ever so slightly different from the one heard at the end of Our Hero, Son Goku.

Also, has anyone seen this for sale anywhere else? I hope it reaches places like CD Japan the same way the BOG magazine did (assuming this is/will be the same thing).

http://www.sanspo-eshop.com/product/1358/

[dbzfan7]

If you don't agree with em, you're pretty much disregarded.

I have been observing this... Pretty lame Kanzenshuu forum has this kind of toxic people. Most of the times you pretend agreeing or just ignore.

I also apparently am an avid Vegeta hater even though I went to see Mr. Horikawa twice. In fact if I am included in that Dragon Soul book, my picture is with me and Vegeta's Seiyuu.

[Birusu16]

Was Vegeta's goal to get blown up? Was it to have Goku jump in and kill Freeza during his fight?

If not, then he failed.

Still implying failing to accomplish a goal means failing to win a fight. I guess Naruto won the fight between him and Sasuke because he got Sasuke to come to his senses, which was his goal. This is all despite the fact that both were unconscious, couldn't move, and lost an arm, but yea he certainly won the fight just because he accomplished his goal.

Or better yet I guess Sasuke lost the first fight between him and Naruto because he didn't kill Naruto despite the fact that it was his goal throughout the entire fight to do so. This is all despite the fact that Sasuke was the last man standing, but yes I guess Sasuke lost that fight as well.

[Kamiccolo9]

Was Vegeta's goal to get blown up? Was it to have Goku jump in and kill Freeza during his fight?

If not, then he failed.

Still implying failing to accomplish a goal means failing to win a fight. I guess Naruto won the fight between him and Sasuke because he got Sasuke to come to his senses, which was his goal. This is all despite the fact that both were unconscious, couldn't move, and lost an arm, but yea he certainly won the fight just because he accomplished his goal.

Or better yet I guess Sasuke lost the first fight between him and Naruto because he didn't kill Naruto despite the fact that it was his goal throughout the entire fight to do so. This is all despite the fact that Sasuke was the last man standing, but yes I guess Sasuke lost that fight as well.

I can't speak for Naruto. Never read or seen it.

Explain how Vegeta won, exactly.

[Birusu16]

Vegeta Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Akira Toriyama's desings in HQ.

Spoiler:

Looks awesome!

Was Vegeta's goal to get blown up? Was it to have Goku jump in and kill Freeza during his fight?

If not, then he failed.

Still implying failing to accomplish a goal means failing to win a fight. I guess Naruto won the fight between him and Sasuke because he got Sasuke to come to his senses, which was his goal. This is all despite the fact that both were unconscious, couldn't move, and lost an arm, but yea he certainly won the fight just because he accomplished his goal.

Or better yet I guess Sasuke lost the first fight between him and Naruto because he didn't kill Naruto despite the fact that it was his goal throughout the entire fight to do so. This is all despite the fact that Sasuke was the last man standing, but yes I guess Sasuke lost that fight as well.

I can't speak for Naruto. Never read or seen it.

Explain how Vegeta won, exactly.

I've already done so. Go back and read my posts. I've no desire to do so again.

[dbzfan7]

Scenario 2-Goku rushes in, saves Vegeta from getting blown up, and kills Freeza.

In neither one of those does Vegeta win.

Before Goku rushed in wasn't Freeza on his knees while Vegeta was standing over him unharmed ?

He was on his knees ready to blow up the planet.

What that can't be right...that would mean Freeza was about to be the Super Survivor again. Are you sure he didn't call Vegeta the king and kiss his boots before Goku like a meanie poop interfered?

[sintzu]

Show me a single definition of "winning" or "losing" where the words "was on his knees" are present.

So, I get mugged, and manage to fight off my mugger. The mugger pulls out a gun and is about to shoot me.

If you beat someone up so bad they can't stand up you won't consider that a win for yourself ?

If you beat the crap out of him and for whatever reason he didn't blow you're head off then yes,you're the winner.

[Kamiccolo9]

Show me a single definition of "winning" or "losing" where the words "was on his knees" are present.

So, I get mugged, and manage to fight off my mugger. The mugger pulls out a gun and is about to shoot me.

If you beat someone up so bad they can't stand up you won't consider that a win for yourself ?

If you beat the crap out of him and for whatever reason he didn't blow you're head off then yes,you're the winner.

He obviously could stand up, since he was capable of blowing up the planet.

Freeza did "blow Vegeta's head off." Along with his arms, knees, and spleen (points for whoever gets that reference).

You have a seriously warped view of winning and losing. I don't think you know what the words mean.

[sintzu]

Pretty lame Kanzenshuu forum has this kind of toxic people.

We're toxic because we're sticking to our opinions ?

Freeza did "blow Vegeta's head off." Along with his arms, knees, and spleen (points for whoever gets that reference).

That was fixed by Whis.

[Birusu16]

Pretty lame Kanzenshuu forum has this kind of toxic people.

We're toxic because we're sticking to our opinions ?

You can't exactly have an opinion around here when it pertains to Vegeta in this movie.

[Kamiccolo9]

Pretty lame Kanzenshuu forum has this kind of toxic people.

We're toxic because we're sticking to our opinions ?

Again with this "opinion" thing.

Opinions don't mean squat unless you can defend them. You have yet to actually engage in discussion with any of us, and are merely repeating the "Freeza was on his knees" thing over and over again.

Freeza did "blow Vegeta's head off." Along with his arms, knees, and spleen (points for whoever gets that reference).

That was fixed by Whis.

And? That doesn't mean Vegeta won, seeing as Vegeta contributed nothing to the actual result of the fight.

That's the problem with Vegeta's "win." It's pointless. For all that Vegeta accomplished, it had no actual effect on the outcome, except by making it worse by pushing Freeza to blow up Earth.

[TheGmGoken]

Vegeta Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Akira Toriyama's desings in HQ.

Spoiler:

Incredible artwork. Remarkable. But such a terrible design. Otherwise ignoring Blue Icee SSJ it's fantastic!

[bubibartra]

Was Vegeta's goal to get blown up? Was it to have Goku jump in and kill Freeza during his fight?

If not, then he failed.

Still implying failing to accomplish a goal means failing to win a fight. I guess Naruto won the fight between him and Sasuke because he got Sasuke to come to his senses, which was his goal. This is all despite the fact that both were unconscious, couldn't move, and lost an arm, but yea he certainly won the fight just because he accomplished his goal.

Or better yet I guess Sasuke lost the first fight between him and Naruto because he didn't kill Naruto despite the fact that it was his goal throughout the entire fight to do so. This is all despite the fact that Sasuke was the last man standing, but yes I guess Sasuke lost that fight as well.

I can't speak for Naruto. Never read or seen it.

Explain how Vegeta won, exactly.

example:
if Krillin, had killed Vegeta after the fight with Goku, Krillin is victory?
bettle against Vegeta in the saiyan saga was considered a victory of Goku but Goku was lying on the floor with all the broken bones and Vegeta could reach its capsule with its own means

[sintzu]

You can't exactly have an opinion around here when it pertains to Vegeta in this movie.

I'm actually surprised that this is looked at as an opinion and not a fact.

[TheGmGoken]

Goku did not beat Vegeta. Most media say it's a draw or everyone but Krillin was defeated. Only person who thinks Vegeta lost to Goku was Vegeta himself. Goku even admits defeat against Vegeta.

[sintzu]

You have yet to actually engage in discussion with any of us, and are merely repeating the "Freeza was on his knees" thing over and over again.

What else do you want me to say ? that's how the fight ended.

[dae428]

Pretty lame Kanzenshuu forum has this kind of toxic people.

We're toxic because we're sticking to our opinions ?

This whole thing has been a bit ridiculous from both sides. There's people bashing the movie constantly saying, wherever they can, that Toriyama's gone senile and is ripping off fan-fics he's probably never even seen and there's people who are constantly saying that they're wrong and Toei sucks and that everything Toriyama touches is pretty much freaking gold. It's also pretty annoying how both sides of the group are playing the 'victim card' about how toxic the environment is.

Honestly, just say what you believe without rubbing it in the faces of others or looking down on them or being a total prick.

Vegeta technically lost in my opinion, but from what we know he did dominate Freeza (despite having some assistance from Goku) and humiliate him pretty badly.

[Lord Beerus]

Vegeta Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Akira Toriyama's desings in HQ.

Spoiler:

Man, Toriyama still has it. I still thinks SSGSS looks a bit better on Goku than on Vegeta.