Cell and Majin Buus potential with same training as Freeza's

[SSJsambosoldier]

Frieza was always known to be an extraordinarily strong mutant at a natural level for someone who has never trained in their life so that leads me to the question...

If cell and Fat/kid buu were to actually train, would they get or even far exceed the results Frieza achieved due to them being thousands of thousands of time more powerful naturally than Frieza?



As I've talked about it, Cell possesses not only Freeza's DNA, but Saiyan and Namekian DNA from abnormally and extremely strong extracts. Where do these stand if given the 4/6 months of training Frieza was given? I think Cell would get inexplicably gigantic gains while Buu gets minor

[Doctor.]

Boo got as strong as he got because he absorbed the evil of mankind over time, so I doubt training would do him any good. Maybe Oob, though.

And just because Cell possesses Freeza's DNA, it doesn't mean he has his potential as well, they're totally different things. And even if he did, Freeza only managed to become a threat due to his Golden power-up anyway, and Cell won't have access to it.

[Lord Beerus]

Boo got as strong as he got because he absorbed the evil of mankind over time, so I doubt training would do him any good. Maybe Oob, though.

And just because Cell possesses Freeza's DNA, it doesn't mean he has his potential as well, they're totally different things. And even if he did, Freeza only managed to become a threat due to his Golden power-up anyway, and Cell won't have access to it.

All of this.

Majin Boo may be able to copy techniques, but he can't copy hidden potential and raw skill. Training would do nothing to improve his strength. Cell is almost an identical case. The only thing he inherited from the small fraction of Freeza's DNA he has in his body was his ability to survive fatal wounds. The only way Cell could get stronger is if he absorbs more people or abuses the Zenkai system.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Seeing how Cell has access to his own equivalent of Super Saiyan, he could easily have the potential for Freeza's Ultimate Evolution coded in too.

[fadeddreams5]

Boo got as strong as he got because he absorbed the evil of mankind over time, so I doubt training would do him any good. Maybe Oob, though.

And just because Cell possesses Freeza's DNA, it doesn't mean he has his potential as well, they're totally different things. And even if he did, Freeza only managed to become a threat due to his Golden power-up anyway, and Cell won't have access to it.

Wait... is it ever mentioned that Buu got as strong as he did because he absorbed the evil of mankind? I thought he became as EVIL as he did because of that, not strong. His potential is also the only reason Goku wanted him to be reincarnated in the first place. And Cold's comments to Frieza about Buu should imply a lot, considering Frieza just had to train 4 months to surpass him. Why would Cold warn Frieza about him if Frieza could easily dispatch him after a small training regime?

As for Cell, he's the perfect fighter. That's his thing. I would assume his potential is greater than any other character, with his biggest flaw being his arrogance and ego. If Cell can access the equivalent of SSJ transformations, I think he can also access Frieza's golden powers. Or at the very least, god ki. He isn't called "perfect" for nothing.

[dbzfan7]

Of course. Absolutely NO ONE probably thought Freeza was capable of any of this. I highly doubt if I asked anyone a year or so beforehand, no one would think Freeza is this special at all. Cell and Boo could probably accomplish the same thing if they wanted to considering one is a construct of a bunch of warriors DNA and talents, while the other is a genius who can learn practically anything just by seeing it once.

[Doctor.]

I don't know why people keep bringing up that Boo could learn every technique by seeing it once when Tenshinhan has demonstrated that in the past as well.

[SSJsambosoldier]

Boo got as strong as he got because he absorbed the evil of mankind over time, so I doubt training would do him any good. Maybe Oob, though.

And just because Cell possesses Freeza's DNA, it doesn't mean he has his potential as well, they're totally different things. And even if he did, Freeza only managed to become a threat due to his Golden power-up anyway, and Cell won't have access to it.

I believe cell has the potential and much more, if he could combine the ultimate form with a power of a sjj and mastered it he would be a terrifyingly powerful foe


Also he could use the cell jrs and do the saiyan God ritual, yes you have to be pure hearted but it never said to be pure good which cell and his children are the opposite of.


Combining God Ki and Ultimate evolution spells game over

[The Monkey King]

I'm confused as to why some users are downplaying Cell in this thread. He has the cells of both Freeza and King Cold (mutant prodigies have PLs in the 100s of millions without training), saiyans and Namekians who can make huge training gains and the strongest humans which gives him great ki control. He also gained his own equivilents of SSJ1&2. If Cell trained seriously for 4 months he'd make Golden Freeza look like a joke as he may gain his own Golden Form.

[dbzfan7]

I don't know why people keep bringing up that Boo could learn every technique by seeing it once when Tenshinhan has demonstrated that in the past as well.

One person takes time to learn it, the other takes a single second. One has near unlimited stamina, the other does not. One can learn something like teleportation in a moment, the other who even watched Goku do it could not.

I'm confused as to why some users are downplaying Cell in this thread. He has the cells of both Freeza and King Cold (mutant prodigies have PLs in the 100s of millions without training), saiyans and Namekians who can make huge training gains and the strongest humans which gives him great ki control. He also gained his own equivilents of SSJ1&2. If Cell trained seriously for 4 months he'd make Golden Freeza look like a joke as he may gain his own Golden Form.

To not make Golden Freeza, and the 4 month's training in general, not sound as stupid as it already is. Absolutely no one would have suggested Freeza was capable of this beforehand. Not until it actually became a thing.

[singsing]

I don't know why people keep bringing up that Boo could learn every technique by seeing it once when Tenshinhan has demonstrated that in the past as well.

Yet Tien couldn't copy the KK/Spirit Bomb/IT/I'm, etc.

[Gianchio]

Boo got as strong as he got because he absorbed the evil of mankind over time, so I doubt training would do him any good. Maybe Oob, though.

And just because Cell possesses Freeza's DNA, it doesn't mean he has his potential as well, they're totally different things. And even if he did, Freeza only managed to become a threat due to his Golden power-up anyway, and Cell won't have access to it.

I agree with this. I don't think neither Cell nor Buu have any potential, besides Zenkai and absorption, since the first is an artificial combination of various DNAs and the second is a magic being

[Duo]

There is absolutely no way to make hard-line declarations about this subject. Freeza becoming insanely powerful was completely left-field and would have been labelled a gibberish a year ago.

Cell, meanwhile, recreated Super Saiyan. There is no reason at all to think he could not do the same thing with the 'Golden' form. He could also probably spit out some "good natured" Cell Jr's and do Super Saiyan God as well. He could also probably train himself insanely powerful in a few months, or just blow himself up repeatedly to accomplish the same thing.

If all of Cell's abilities were used in full, he would just break the universe. It's a good thing the character has been put away for good.

Also, who said Buu ever absorbed evil from anything? That doesn't make sense and was never stated anywhere I know of.

[fadeddreams5]

Also, who said Buu ever absorbed evil from anything? That doesn't make sense and was never stated anywhere I know of.

Toriyama interview. =P

Buu existed since time itself and eventually became tainted by the evils of mankind. I don't recall Toriyama mentioning anything about Buu becoming stronger as a result of it though.

[Duo]

Also, who said Buu ever absorbed evil from anything? That doesn't make sense and was never stated anywhere I know of.

Toriyama interview. =P

Buu existed since time itself and eventually became tainted by the evils of mankind. I don't recall Toriyama mentioning anything about Buu becoming stronger as a result of it though.

Which interview? If you point me in the right direction I'll find it myself. Buu had no tie to humanity previously that I have ever heard of. That's such a weird thing for him to say.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

The Twel-Buu Mysteries.

How did Bibidi make Majin Buu? What process was there, what were Buu’s ingredients, etc…
Though in the manga Kaiōshin said that Bibidi made him, the truth is that one called “Buu” was not actually created by Bididi, but has existed since time immemorial. He cycled between rampages and long hibernation. During numerous iterations of this cycle, he absorbed the evil elements of mankind, becoming steadily more violent. Bibidi merely knew the means of calling Buu from out of his long slumber. Since the current Buu is a slightly different life-form due to the changes brought about when the evil Buu was expelled, it’s not known whether he’ll still go into long hibernation.

Just a note, "mankind" is probably being used it the same way "human" is used in Dragon Ball. That is, as a description for basically anything humanoid and not just Earthlings, because, as per the series, Bluma, Goku, Piccolo, Ginyu, Freeza, etc are all considered "humans".