I'd wish for more wishes. If I can't do that I'll wish I can wish for more wishes.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Araki wrote:
These days people start throwing the words "filler" and "silce of life" everytime characters aren't punching each other. No matter if something is moving the plot or there's character exposition.
Imagine if DB started these days. It would go like this:
"hey, what's happening in Dragon Ball today?"
"Goku wants Mutenroshi to train him, so he's bringing him some chicks now."
"oh i see, just slice of life filler then. skippable. "
Doctor. wrote:I don't think Shenlong would be able to grant that kind of wish, so I'd just wish to have my potential power unlocked.
Either that or immortality, because who's not afraid to die
And would you be alright watching everyone you know and love eventually grow old and die while you remained the same? Honestly I cant imagine a worse thing than that, living literally forever alone.
Doctor. wrote:I don't think Shenlong would be able to grant that kind of wish, so I'd just wish to have my potential power unlocked.
Either that or immortality, because who's not afraid to die
And would you be alright watching everyone you know and love eventually grow old and die while you remained the same? Honestly I cant imagine a worse thing than that, living literally forever alone.
I agree here. Immortality is a regular request however the cons outway the pros. You'd never be able to have a family or partner properly. Immortality is much more suited to evil. They wish for only power and to survive always to rule, they have no needs for families
Personally my wish would depend on what set of balls I get to wish one.
Kami's Shenron - Enough wealth to last a thousand lifetimes. So that my family, and friends and their family could live comfortably for decades if not centuries.
Dende's Shenron - The wish above as well as the power of flight. Sadly wishing for Saiyan blood is impossible since Shenron cant alter biological makeup.
Porunga - If Porunga is able to alter the biological makeup of someone, then my wishes would be the wish for wealth, to make myself half Saiyan, and unlimited ki.
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Personally my wish would depend on what set of balls I get to wish one.
Kami's Shenron - Enough wealth to last a thousand lifetimes. So that my family, and friends and their family could live comfortably for decades if not centuries.
Dende's Shenron - The wish above as well as the power of flight. Sadly wishing for Saiyan blood is impossible since Shenron cant alter biological makeup.
Porunga - If Porunga is able to alter the biological makeup of someone, then my wishes would be the wish for wealth, to make myself half Saiyan, and unlimited ki.
Saiyan blood would be nice. But a high power level and some sort of transformation would keep me happy.
You could make money and wealth from a high power level. Competitions or security work.
Goku gained zeni from fighters bragging and trying to take peoples money from their strength in DB.
Doctor. wrote:I don't think Shenlong would be able to grant that kind of wish, so I'd just wish to have my potential power unlocked.
Either that or immortality, because who's not afraid to die
And would you be alright watching everyone you know and love eventually grow old and die while you remained the same? Honestly I cant imagine a worse thing than that, living literally forever alone.
Everyone always says this, but from my point of view, the grieving would stop eventually. Immortal or not, you'll always witness losses of people you love in your life, you'd just witness a bit more.
Doctor. wrote:I don't think Shenlong would be able to grant that kind of wish, so I'd just wish to have my potential power unlocked.
Either that or immortality, because who's not afraid to die
And would you be alright watching everyone you know and love eventually grow old and die while you remained the same? Honestly I cant imagine a worse thing than that, living literally forever alone.
Everyone always says this, but from my point of view, the grieving would stop eventually. Immortal or not, you'll always witness losses of people you love in your life, you'd just witness a bit more.
Eventually you wouldn't even want to connect to people anymore because you would be tired of always losing them. You would just be a lonely guy watching time go by. Not to mention that if you were truly immortal, you would survive the end of humanity itself and then you would truly be alone.
Invisibility/phasing/flying powers...I'm saying no more....
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Good ol' Shenlong: A world free of corruption... but that just might be beyond his powers.
Upgraded Shenlong: Second wish would be for partial immortality, in that I would never age beyond my prime, but could still die of natural causes. It'd be interesting to see how things develop for a millennia or two, if I could even last that long. Don't think I would want to stick around for millions of years, though.
Dunno about a third wish if we're talking about Porunga.
1. To be place into the Marvel universe. Preferably 616 but if I'm in Cinema, Ultimate, 2099, Noir, or Spider Gwen universe I'll be cool w/ it.
2. For my girlfriend and myself to be older. That way I can marry her faster.
3. A real life Goten Son. Of course with no powers but with same super personality. He has to be around my age of course with his EoZ haircut (as it can work in real life).
I would wish immortality for me and my family.
For immortality I mean never get sick, impossible to be killed in any way, impossible to die in any way except by repeatedly punching myself in the stomach to death (meaning if I ever got really bored of life, I could kill myself but not by accident).
Then I would ask to be able to fly. If possible I would also gift this ability to my family.
This is considering 2 wishes of Shenron.
悟 “Vincit qui se vincit”
What I consider canonical
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Dragon Ball Manga
Jaco: The Galactic Patrolman
Yo! Son Goku and Friends Return
Additional lore from Toriyama
Dragon Ball Daima