So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Earth?

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So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Earth?

Post by Angelus » Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:41 pm

I mean, before Buu killed everyone and blew the planet up. Is it implied in the manga that Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog was also brought to Earth as part of the wish? That frog with the mind of Ginyu is on Earth too, right? Filler aside.

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Re: So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Eart

Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:42 pm

No. Frog Ginyu and Ginyu Frog both perished originally on Namek when Freeza destroyed it.

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Re: So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Eart

Post by Angelus » Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:51 pm

But they made a wish to transport people to Earth.

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Re: So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Eart

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:52 pm

I don't think the manga sheds any light on this matter from what I can remember. It's possible that neither the animal with the mind of a man and the man with the mind of an animal actually counted as a proper "person" to transport...
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Re: So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Eart

Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:11 pm

You know I just re-read that chapter when Dende makes a wish to Porunga while Goku and Freeza were fighting each other, and I initially thought that Dende had been specific about the wish, like he wished for all of the good people to be brought to Earth, but no, he really did wish for everyone on Namek to be transported to Earth except Goku and Freeza. So... hmm... I don't really know what happened to Frog Ginyu or Ginyu Frog. As TheDevilsCorpse noted, perhaps neither of them qualified as a "person".
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Re: So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Eart

Post by Xeogran » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:19 pm

I prefer to think of it the way anime portrayed it. Frog Ginyu making unexpected cameos was funny and since it wasn't moved in the manga, it may as well stay like that :P

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Re: So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Eart

Post by Angelus » Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:02 pm

Did Herms ever made a translation of Dende's wish?

As a side note... Ginyu did seem severely injured. His body may have died of infection?

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Re: So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Eart

Post by Hitiro » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:19 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:You know I just re-read that chapter when Dende makes a wish to Porunga while Goku and Freeza we're fighting each other, and I initially thought that Dende had been specific about the wish, like he wished for all of the good people to be brought to Earth, but no, he really did wish for everyone on Namek to be transported to Earth except Goku and Freeza. So... hmm... I don't really know what happened to Frog Ginyu or Ginyu Frog. As TheDevilsCorpse noted, perhaps neither of them qualified as a "person".
Well, it depends on if the wish was "everyone" or "every person" because the former would not be exclusive to just people, right? I'm pretty sure I've seen the word "everyone" in context for animals. Or am I getting the semantics of "everyone" and "every one" mixed up here? Something like:

Farmer: They may have foot & mouth. Check everyone.

Or is it?

Farmer: They may have foot & mouth. Check every one.

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Re: So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Eart

Post by Angelus » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:06 pm

foot & mouth?

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Re: So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Eart

Post by Dayspring » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:01 pm

No frog seen among the group of people transported to Earth would suggest he wasn't transported.

Though I admit MANY people weren't shown in the transport, either (the aerial view only gives us about a village's worth of Nameks).
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Re: So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Eart

Post by Angelus » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:10 pm

Dayspring wrote:No frog seen among the group of people transported to Earth would suggest he wasn't transported.

Though I admit MANY people weren't shown in the transport, either (the aerial view only gives us about a village's worth of Nameks).
So even Gohan, Piccolo, Vegeta and Bulma weren't seen on that aerial view? And it was the only aerial view?

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Re: So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Eart

Post by Dayspring » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:53 pm

Angelus wrote:
Dayspring wrote:No frog seen among the group of people transported to Earth would suggest he wasn't transported.

Though I admit MANY people weren't shown in the transport, either (the aerial view only gives us about a village's worth of Nameks).
So even Gohan, Piccolo, Vegeta and Bulma weren't seen on that aerial view? And it was the only aerial view?
You see about 20 people from the aerial view and from the following panels, you can use the positions and sizes of the people in the aerial view to deduce who Gohan, Bulma, Dende, Piccolo and Saichoru are. The next page also shows Vegeta among the group. 20 is far from everybody who should have been transported (six villages of 10-20 each would amount to 60-120 Nameks alone). However, the aerial view shows only humanoid bodies (so Nameks, Gohan, Bulma and Vegeta).
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Re: So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Eart

Post by Angelus » Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:02 pm

I see. Man, I wonder what Herms' stance on this is. XD

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Re: So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Eart

Post by SpiritBombTriumphant » Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:21 pm

I wish Vegeta or someone/anyone would've just blasted Frog Ginyu and gotten it over with, then done the same to Ginyu's body. It was gross.

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Re: So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Eart

Post by Hitiro » Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:03 am

Angelus wrote:foot & mouth?
Foot & mouth is an animal disease.

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Re: So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Eart

Post by RancorSnp » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:51 pm

In anime filler (yeah I know it's not an authority :P) you see Frog Ginyu right before martial arts tournament, when Sharpner or watever was his name tried to unmask gohan.

Still if I were to say, I think that ginyu WAS transported to Earth, there is no reason why the wish to transport All people except Goku and Freeza, would skip Ginyu.

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Re: So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Eart

Post by Angelus » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:35 pm

Wouldn't it also include all the other animals on Namek? Maybe even the trees?

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Re: So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Eart

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:58 pm

I think Ginyu died when Freeza blew up the Earth. If not then he likely died from Super Buu or Kid Buu many years later. Since he's in a frog body now then he can't swap bodies unless he can find away to speak someone with the same language like what happen with Bluma in the filler episode. If he died from Buu then I would imagine he was brought back since he's a frog now and he can't do evil things now.
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Re: So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Eart

Post by Angelus » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:27 am

Err... I do mean before the Buu saga, as what I wrote in the OP.

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Re: So Captain Ginyu's body with a mind of a frog is on Eart

Post by Sinestro » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:58 am

I enjoyed his anime-only cameos, post-Freeza fight.

He really got off light, considering he worked for a mass-murdering tyrant.

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