Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[radrappy]

The script does appear to be good, though. The dialogue definitely seems to be Toriyama all the way. It's just a shame he didn't have a good director to fill in the gaps.

I feel you. In a perfect world this would have had excellent direction/filmmaking to go hand in hand with the fun script. Unfortunately they seem to have gone with who they were most comfortable with as opposed to a daring or passionate filmmaker. I'll still watch this over any of the original toei movies any day though, if only for the character interactions and fun ideas alone.

[SansrivaaL]

Saying that there's no point in complaining just because there's a lot of inconsistencies is a bad argument. The next movie could be filled with plot holes, contradictions and bad writing and then you wouldn't complain just because DB is already filled with that kind of stuff?

Some and probably most fictional worlds has plot holes, its a fool's errand to correct them by one's standard and using our logic in it. Anyways I'm out of this topic. I never really complain about it since I watch DB for pure entertainment and nothing else.

[Doctor.]

Saying that there's no point in complaining just because there's a lot of inconsistencies is a bad argument. The next movie could be filled with plot holes, contradictions and bad writing and then you wouldn't complain just because DB is already filled with that kind of stuff?

Some and probably most fictional worlds has plot holes, its a fool's errand to correct them by one's standard and using our logic in it. Anyways I'm out of this topic. I never really complain about it since I watch DB for pure entertainment and nothing else.

So do we; we just believe that we can entertain ourselves more if there's less things to complain about.

[rereboy]

What kind of reasoning is that...? By that logic, since there's lot of bad stuff in the world, there's no point in criticizing anything.

Why exactly is real life being compared to a fictional world?

You can use literally anything for that logic... Substitute "bad stuff in the world" for basically any other thing and my point remains the same. "Many authors are lazy, so no point in criticizing". "This series has had quite a few bad chapters in the past, so no point in criticizing this new one". "Many men are sexist, so no point in criticizing it". "This football player has had poor performance in the past, so no point in criticizing it now". And so on, and so on.

[fexus]

Saying that there's no point in complaining just because there's a lot of inconsistencies is a bad argument. The next movie could be filled with plot holes, contradictions and bad writing and then you wouldn't complain just because DB is already filled with that kind of stuff?

Complaining about it is okay but bitching about it for this long is just too much. The great thing about this is that there isn't that much plot holes or contradictions anyway.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

So the people who have not seen the movie seem to have an issue with the ring thing right? Well that just about sums it up really.

[saunasolmu]

Saying that there's no point in complaining just because there's a lot of inconsistencies is a bad argument. The next movie could be filled with plot holes, contradictions and bad writing and then you wouldn't complain just because DB is already filled with that kind of stuff?

The thing is that some of the 'complainers' like to pretend that Dragon Ball wasn't always like this. As if their self-made attempts to create consistent rules to an inconsistent manga are C A N O N, and everything contradicting them is bullshit.

[fexus]

So the people who have not seen the movie seem to have an issue with the ring thing right? Well that just about sums it up really.

It's not about the ring, it's about the power. People think ki is everything. People here think ki is what determine how people can tank what. They don't try to bring up the body type or see that humans and saiyans are different species.

[rereboy]

Providing an opinion and some logical arguments about why a plot point seems inconsistent is not "bitching". It's just criticizing, which is vital for any piece of entertainment and art. Mindless acceptance of anything without criticism can only end badly.

[Doctor.]

Saying that there's no point in complaining just because there's a lot of inconsistencies is a bad argument. The next movie could be filled with plot holes, contradictions and bad writing and then you wouldn't complain just because DB is already filled with that kind of stuff?

The thing is that some of the 'complainers' like to pretend that Dragon Ball wasn't always like this. As if their self-made attempts to create a consistent rules to an inconsistent manga are C A N O N, and everything contradicting them is bullshit.

I'm complaining about this movie and I can admit Dragon Ball has terrible writing on some occasions. The reason I don't complain about it so often is because it's over, it's done for years; whilst this is a recently released material where our input can possibly change future material for the better.

[saunasolmu]

Saying that there's no point in complaining just because there's a lot of inconsistencies is a bad argument. The next movie could be filled with plot holes, contradictions and bad writing and then you wouldn't complain just because DB is already filled with that kind of stuff?

The thing is that some of the 'complainers' like to pretend that Dragon Ball wasn't always like this. As if their self-made attempts to create a consistent rules to an inconsistent manga are C A N O N, and everything contradicting them is bullshit.

I'm complaining about this movie and I can admit Dragon Ball has terrible writing on some occasions. The reason I don't complain about it so often is because it's over, it's done for years; whilst this is a recently released material where our input can possibly change future material for the better.

I'm completely fine with that. But as I said, some of the complainers are pretending that this is somehow way worse than the actual manga.

[rereboy]

The thing is that some of the 'complainers' like to pretend that Dragon Ball wasn't always like this. As if their self-made attempts to create consistent rules to an inconsistent manga are C A N O N, and everything contradicting them is bullshit.

Er... Actually, people just don't want it to have even more inconsistencies than it already has... They don't enjoy the already existing inconsistencies of the franchise, let alone unnecessary brand new ones.

[JulieYBM]

I like this cut of Freeza a bit. It's a downward angle shot that captures Freeza's shoulders at just the right angle to help give off this impression that has a body. His form has dimension, so it has weight that can be felt by the viewer. With that flatter shot I mentioned early Freeza looks paper thin, like he can be poked through like a piece of paper. Here he looks like a solid mass one can punch and get the sensation of "yeah, this guy is real" from.

Something I've noticed about a lot of these screen shots is that there isn't much toying around with lighting. The mood of the film seems very bright, even during more serious scenes. It's not particularly riveting. I wish there had been a little more toying around, like in Kuroko no Baske Episode #66. The script from Toriyama seemed to be pretty barren in terms of descriptions. Yamamuro could have done a lot more with the settings and layouts.

[fexus]

Providing an opinion and some logical arguments about why a plot point seems inconsistent is not "bitching". It's just criticizing, which is vital for any piece of entertainment and art. Mindless acceptance of anything without criticism can only end badly.

And when some people already accepted the so called inconsistent plot point and already made a reason to make the plot points not inconsistent, other people will make it their duty to correct the assumptions of those believers.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

So the people who have not seen the movie seem to have an issue with the ring thing right? Well that just about sums it up really.

It's not about the ring, it's about the power. People think ki is everything. People here think ki is what determine how people can tank what. They don't try to bring up the body type or see that humans and saiyans are different species.

I am just scratching my head on this topic, I just do not see how this is inconsistent at all, we know nothing about the ring and it's powers and it is not like it was a single ki blast that Sorbet threw that injured Goku, just smh. I mean it literally happened before where Vegeta could not touch Super Perfect Cell yet he hit him (with a simple ki blast I might add) and Gohan pounced, seems similar right?

[Birusu16]

I really don't see the problem with Goku getting pierced from Sorbet's ring. Whis warned him about this. He specifically said that the body is a fragile thing regardless of how powerful you are and if you relax too much and let your guard down then weak attacks can damage you. Goku learned that lesson the hard way.

[Chuquita]

One thing I like is they seem to be toning down the wide face thing that Yamamuro had been doing lately. Everyone looks a bit tighter like in the older movies.

[SansrivaaL]

What kind of reasoning is that...? By that logic, since there's lot of bad stuff in the world, there's no point in criticizing anything.

Why exactly is real life being compared to a fictional world?

You can use literally anything for that logic... Substitute "bad stuff in the world" for basically any other thing and my point remains the same. "Many authors are lazy, so no point in criticizing". "This series has had quite a few bad chapters in the past, so no point in criticizing this new one". "Many men are sexist, so no point in criticizing it". "This football player has had poor performance in the past, so no point in criticizing it now". And so on, and so on.

So does things change when we complain? what exactly happens when we criticize? waste valuable time imo, we dont have the power to change anything even if we complain about it or not (except making a fanmade) only the people with the power does and even they have a problem doing something about it. My point is there are some things that change and some things that never change. You can complain about it a few times yes (thats normal) but dragging it out is a waste of time. Thats it I'm really out now, no point in arguing.

[fexus]

So the people who have not seen the movie seem to have an issue with the ring thing right? Well that just about sums it up really.

It's not about the ring, it's about the power. People think ki is everything. People here think ki is what determine how people can tank what. They don't try to bring up the body type or see that humans and saiyans are different species.

I am just scratching my head on this topic, I just do not see how this is inconsistent at all, we know nothing about the ring and it's powers and it is not like it was a single ki blast that Sorbet threw that injured Goku, just smh. I mean it literally happened before where Vegeta could not touch Super Perfect Cell yet he hit him and Gohan pounced, seems similar right?

Just you wait, other people seem to have a counter to this. I remember that they discussed the exact same thing in this thread and already made a conclusion on how this and that are different.

[JulieYBM]

The sneak attack from Sorbet reminds me of Piccolo's attack at the tail end of the Twenty-Third Tenka'ichi Budoukai. Gokuu's guard was down, so the blast hurt him. Earlier, when Gokuu knew a blast was coming, he was able to safely weather the storm.