He had left his guard down to the point that ki wasn't protecting his body, apparently. Even though he was transformed.Saiyan007 wrote:That really doesn't matter Goku was in his God form at the time how exactly does he have his guard down and why does he have it so low someone weaker than Zarbon can hurt him?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Yup. That's pretty much how many people view modern Dragon Ball in a nutshell.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Nothing contradicts this. Fans just don't like this idea.
It's stuff like this that makes me think Dragon Ball fans are not that much different from Sonic fans. Those who have problems are deemed haters who just want to find issue's and say everything sucks. Those who don't know the full details (But still know plenty), are ridiculed because they don't know every inch of something new. Like how early on a lot of comments could be summed as "SHUT UP YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET". Now that more details are out some still follow this excuse. Even after everyone's seen the movie, the excuse will be that people are just too lazy to make up shit instead of expecting the creators to do it. Dragon Ball ain't a fucking piece of work that's about opening things to interpretative story telling. It's a simple series which pretty much spells out everything. So when something isn't there, it's not to be artsy or ballsy. It's usually something that wasn't thought about. Then there's the excuse that people ignore the manga problems which only some would really excuse. That was the 80's, this is 2015. I expect some more care. Though really it's hard to tell who's fair, who's bashing the new stuff, and who's sucking on Dragon Balls as consumer tools.Saiga wrote:More like them not caring about being consistent with the original manga. Because several examples have already been used to show the inconsistency, it's not just fan perception.Kaboom wrote:Clearly Toriyama and/or Toei's writers simply don't give a fabulous flying fishstick about fans' preconceptions on power gaps and damage feasibility.
I really want a translation for this and the book. Herms will you do a translation?TheDevilsCorpse wrote:It's really nothing worth taking a picture over, but here:DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Do we have a picture of this?TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I can't read the text itself, but that's part of the family tree section. It shows the familial and minion relationships between the relevant parties (Goku, Vegeta, Freeza) and then shoves Tarble, Abo, Kado, Chilled, Kurieza, Coola's Armored Squad and Coola himself in a disjointed box that at least acknowledges them.
Ki wasn't protecting his body yet he was still in his God form how the fuck does that even workDBZGTKOSDH wrote:He had left his guard down to the point that ki wasn't protecting his body, apparently. Even though he was transformed.Saiyan007 wrote:That really doesn't matter Goku was in his God form at the time how exactly does he have his guard down and why does he have it so low someone weaker than Zarbon can hurt him?
Nothing contradicts this. Fans just don't like this idea.
From a visual medium is where watching the film differs from something like story. Saying like the action is shit without seeing all of it is jumping the gun. That's something you can't fully know without seeing the whole movie. Saying the animation is garbage as well as the CG is also jumping the gun as you need to see the film to judge all of it's quality. The same can be said about musical score. That's something you need to see the movie for to garner an opinion.Kendamu wrote:Look. If what you've read about and what you've seen via cell phone pics in a movie theater is enough to make you say, "I'm not interested," then more power to you. However, why should I trust the opinion of someone who hasn't even seen the film as somehow actually authoritative in regards to the film's quality? Even film critics at least see a film before they tell you it sucks.
It's not just me going "NO U NEED SEE MOVIE FIRST NOOB" and laughing because I have seen it. I hold myself to the same standard. An example of this would be my opinion of GT. I've never seen more than a couple random episodes of GT and I have no real interest in seeing it. When someone asks me about GT, I'm open in that I haven't actually seen it, but what I know about it makes me uninterested in seeing it. Also, I tell them that they should ask someone who HAS seen it for a first-hand account of whether it's a good show or not.
Because when mastered the form doesn't waste unnecessary ki just like when SSJ are mastered.Saiyan007 wrote:
Ki wasn't protecting his body yet he was still in his God form how the fuck does that even work
Nothing contradicts it?
Why wasn't Freeza killed when Piccolo came out of nowhere to kick him in the head?
Freeza certainly wasn't on guard at the moment
Stop defending bad writing DB is full of it.
Not gonna lie, I do wish this had been the case, not because I have any problem with this ring that seems to be plaguing everyone else, but because 1) it would give at least one less thing for people to complain about, and 2) it does sound like something Freeza would do. Though I guess it would take away one of Sorbet's moments.dbzfan7 wrote:Why couldn't Sorbet hit Goku with his ring to distract Goku, and then Freeza uses a death beam through Goku's heart. That'd have made far more sense.
Storytelling in film has always relied partially on factors outside of the plot/script alone, including dialogue and all of the aesthetic nuances that influence it. You're certainly entitled to post your feelings on the premise or certain ideas conveyed in the film, but you cannot thoroughly analyze it without fully experiencing the film itself and its components. This is basic knowledge, and it's exactly why every movie critic worth their salt has NEVER written a comprehensive review regarding the plot without actually watching its subject matter first.dbzfan7 wrote:Story telling is something you don't really need to see on screen to have a full judgement.
Most people who've read the entire story line will not be swayed by pretty animation and predictable interactions. When you read the entire plot, you know everything relevant that will happen.Marlowe89 wrote:Storytelling in film has always relied partially on factors outside of the plot/script alone, including dialogue and all of the aesthetic nuances that influence it. You're certainly entitled to post your feelings on the premise or certain ideas conveyed in the film, but you cannot thoroughly analyze it without fully experiencing the film itself and its components. This is basic knowledge, and it's exactly why every movie critic worth their salt has NEVER written a comprehensive review without actually watching its subject matter first.dbzfan7 wrote:Story telling is something you don't really need to see on screen to have a full judgement.
You can argue and justify and defend this sort of bashing all you'd like, but until you've actually seen it, expecting anyone to take your assessment of the movie as a whole seriously is an unreasonable demand.
I really doubt they're looking at it like that. That box is probably just a "these guys were related to Freeza in other works" type deal.Polyphase Avatron wrote:I'm surprised that Kuriza is in that picture. Does that make him canon?
Lord Chilled is there, and we know for darn sure he ain't canon. I'm sure it's not meant to be taken seriously.Polyphase Avatron wrote:I'm surprised that Kuriza is in that picture. Does that make him canon?
buutenks wrote:Hmm,ye i guess it had some reaction,so yes proly not vaporized.Piririn wrote:According to Kanzenshuu's current movie summary: "Freeza sends a ball of energy straight into the ground below him. The Earth’s crust cracks and distorts, revealing magma underneath that rushes to the surface. Earth is engulfed in fire, and explodes in a giant shockwave."buutenks wrote:I'm pretty sure freeza's blast vaporized earth,so it wasnt namek style explosion,aka a core bust.
Well either way,vegeta surely died,now weather it was from lack of air or heat of the planet or the shockwave Idk
Also true,wanted to mention it but i thought id just drop it cos its a bit pointless to debate it ^^.flashback0180 wrote:That's probably just cinematic induced stupidity, we already saw the explosion in the trailer. The explosion was covered with freezas purple aura and we don't know how big the explosion was.
dbgtFO wrote:Thanks for the review Ajay!
I just want to know, if the SSGSS hair color is the same as it was in those screenshots you posted and not the colour it is in Doctor's avatar.
Starting to remind me of Broly and his inconsistent hair colour with Xenoverse, Zenkai Battle Royale, trailers and promos failing to have a consistent coulour...
I really wish you'd pay attention to the multiple people saying this isn't what they're doing instead of coming up with your own ridiculous assumptions about how people come to have a problem with these things.Gyt Kaliba wrote:The level to which people will look for anything and everything to declare something a problem
