Unicorn_Bazooka wrote:
"Dragon Ball Super will debut this July and will run as a weekly series"
I'm pretty sure theres a difference between reanimating a series (essentially) and creating a whole new storyline.
Phew.
Cold Skin, why are you getting me so worked up for?
Okay, but I thought that having two or three weeks gave them time to animate episodes of Sailor Moon Crystal.
But if Dragon Ball Super goes weekly (which is good as it means less waiting for us), doesn't it mean that they'll have to do seasons and stop airing it for months sometimes to be drawing and animating new episodes?
Do shows like Naruto and One Piece ever take breaks? Can they keep going constantly on a weekly basis, meaning they manage to animate an entire 20 minutes-long episode in less than one week?!
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Cold Skin wrote:Okay, but I thought that having two or three weeks gives them time to animate episodes of Sailor Moon Crystal.
But if Dragon Ball Super goes weekly (which is good as it means less waiting for us), doesn't it mean that they'll have to do seasons and stop airing it for months sometimes to be drawing and animating new episodes?
Do shows like Naruto and One Piece ever take breaks? Can they keep going constantly on a weekly basis, meaning they manage to animate an entire 20 minutes-long episode in less than one week?!
One Piece and Naruto rarely take breaks but they also have a manga to copy the stories from.
Unicorn_Bazooka wrote:
"Dragon Ball Super will debut this July and will run as a weekly series"
I'm pretty sure theres a difference between reanimating a series (essentially) and creating a whole new storyline.
Phew.
Cold Skin, why are you getting me so worked up for?
Okay, but I thought that having two or three weeks gave them time to animate episodes of Sailor Moon Crystal.
But if Dragon Ball Super goes weekly (which is good as it means less waiting for us), doesn't it mean that they'll have to do seasons and stop airing it for months sometimes to be drawing and animating new episodes?
Do shows like Naruto and One Piece ever take breaks? Can they keep going constantly on a weekly basis, meaning they manage to animate an entire 20 minutes-long episode in less than one week?!
Aren't anime episodes animated like MONTHS prior to the actual airing?
AnimeMaakuo wrote:Toriyama is doing this for money, and it's starting to become like Star Wars and George Lucas. In my opinion, this is going to end up being terrible with plot holes. Instead of using hand drawn animation, it will look cheap with CGI effects and we'll see more super awesome extreme villain with Super Saiyan 7 capabilities and bigger planatary explosions! I can't wait!
The series ended a long time ago. There was nothing wrong with it. I don't need anybody to explain what happens after Majin Boo is defeated. Let my imagination take me hostage. I like consistency with older animation and story during the time of their creation, and the time gap between these is more than enough to not accept it as canon.
As excited as I am for the new series, I so get where you are coming from. It's like those premium channel series such as Weeds, Dexter, Sopranos etc. that should of ended like 2 seasons ago but instead the producers think they can stretch the series out and then the ending just feels....wrong. I can't explain it but some things are just meant to be cut short and be left at that. Still can't wait for the new series though
Vice wrote:So the first episode will air in July? That's pretty quick. Is it going to be like a teaser episode and then the show actually debuts later, or starting in July it will be a weekly thing?
I want the opening and endings to be something like Naruto's, Bleach's or Gintama's. Don't want something like Kai ED 3 for Boo arc, ED 7 is OK I guess.
SSJ God Gogeta wrote:I wonder what the plot is going to be about.
Anyone got some ideas, something they would like to see?
I'd like to see the other universes explored. And if little bits and pieces of GT are revisted, I wouldn't be against it. If the main cast though, featured Teen Oob, Bra, Pan and Marron, I would lose it.
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Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Can we all stop letting our "hate" of DBGT blind our reasoning? If a billion series were made "ignoring" DBGT it would never "retcon it out of existence", but simply set it aside as one universe and timeline, next to another universe and timeline, and so on. Multiple branches in a tree. Just like Future Trunks' lives in one branch and our main heroes live in another branch, same the new series may represent one branch, while DBGT represents another. All branches equally important, equally valid and equally "real". (we're not even sure yet if they're not both within the same branch) How many more times does this point have to be made before everyone understands it?
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I'm just glad this will be directly adapted to anime, which means I don't have to worry about the slow pacing and 20 episodes fights.
Seems like Toriyama is loving his new life of only have to write the script and let Toei do the rest.
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.
Favourite old DB Animators: Masaki Sato and Tadayoshi Yamamuro
Favourite new DB Animators: Yuya Takahashi and Chikashi Kubota
FortuneSSJ wrote:I'm just glad this will be directly adapted to anime, which means I don't have to worry about the slow pacing and 20 episodes fights.
Plus, it also means we have zero idea about the what the plot will be. The hype for the show will feel and raw and real.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
AnimeMaakuo wrote:The series ended a long time ago. There was nothing wrong with it. I don't need anybody to explain what happens after Majin Boo is defeated. Let my imagination take me hostage. I like consistency with older animation and story during the time of their creation, and the time gap between these is more than enough to not accept it as canon.
That's the beauty of it, you don't have to watch it if you don't want to. But others have the right to determine for themselves whether they consider it to be canon. (and does "canon" really matter that much? can't people just watch something to enjoy it instead of ripping it apart because it doesn't slavishly follow the story of a manga or disregards something from an earlier incarnation?)
At least we can celebrate that the actors will be getting more work.
Vice wrote:So the first episode will air in July? That's pretty quick. Is it going to be like a teaser episode and then the show actually debuts later, or starting in July it will be a weekly thing?
It is gonna be weekly starting from July!
I really can't get over how soon it's gonna be. A PV for the anime has to shown in the next few weeks to capitalize on the insane amount of hype that just the sheer announcement of this show has created.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Kageyama, Mr DBZ, should just came back do a new Hit for the series! So many wishes I have for this.
emperior wrote:CALLING IT RIGHT NOW.
By the end of this, EVERY Z fighter is going to be immortal.
12 of them will become the new Gods of Creation (with Goku the god of his universe, the 7th)
Maybe Vegeta the god of destruction of 7th universe and so on.
Makes sense every of our loved Z fighter will continue to protect the universes forever, and once in a while they will have some battles and some tournaments between them.
Is it bad I kinda liking this idea?!
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.
Favourite old DB Animators: Masaki Sato and Tadayoshi Yamamuro
Favourite new DB Animators: Yuya Takahashi and Chikashi Kubota
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
I am guessing the English title will be Super Dragon Ball (Z)? Dragon Ball Super does sound odd, but probably will get used to it, the same was probably said when TOEI first announced DBZ lol
