"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by DBZ_Lee » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:51 pm

bubibartra wrote:I think that Boo saga ends with Oob as good heir of Kid boo,

therefore, Dragon ball S will continue from there.
But wouldn't Goku be like 47? and Vegeta 52? - according to approximate dates given in the official timeline. I can't see it taking place that late, the press release states it being after the defeat of Majin Buu.
Toriyama Sensei stated he chose the 10 year time gap for BoG because everyone was at the height of their powers, so I can't see him going that far ahead.

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Post by MajinVegetaPD » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:53 pm

Wow, all I can say is holy freakin crap. This is wonderful news. I'm guessing is that the two recent movies will be somewhat cannon and the new series will be taking place after these events. It's a great opportunity to explore this whole multi verse thing as well the Beerus was alluding to.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:54 pm

DBZ_Lee wrote:But wouldn't Goku be like 47? and Vegeta 52? - according to approximate dates given in the official timeline. I can't see it taking place that late, the press release states it being after the defeat of Majin Buu.
Toriyama Sensei stated he chose the 10 year time gap for BoG because everyone was at the height of their powers, so I can't see him going that far ahead.
Yes (well, Goku was dead too), but Saiyans stay in their prime until the rapid aging process sets in. Physically, they're basically still in their 20s. Everyone else though, like Kuririn... eh.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Neon Z » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:57 pm

bleed0range wrote: I think, considering Toriyamas been pretty consistent with all of the things he's been involved with lately being related to each other (reference to Vegeta's brother in BOG from Yo Son Goku! And the inclusion of Beerus and Jaco in ROF... ), it makes sense it will follow in this direction. Now it could always be after uub shows up, but I bet it'll take place after ROF and show us what happens next. There's also the chance it could start after ROF and surpass EOZ and keep going. But I definitely think we'll see some blue hair.
That's what I'm hoping. It seems the most realistic choice for a post-End of Z series. They can have a short introductory arc, like the Raditz battle, taking place right after RoF and setting things up for the new threat or plot, then timeskip to post EoZ afterwards where the main story takes place.

But wouldn't Goku be like 47? and Vegeta 52? - according to approximate dates given in the official timeline. I can't see it taking place that late, the press release states it being after the defeat of Majin Buu.
Toriyama Sensei stated he chose the 10 year time gap for BoG because everyone was at the height of their powers, so I can't see him going that far ahead.
Saiyans keep their youth for longer though. That was established in the Z epilogue itself. The main problem would be the human characters, although Toriyama himself in RoF seems to be basically disregarding their aging, considering Kuririn's new design, for example. The fact that, aside from Gohan, everyone still seems to be in their peak in RoF makes it more likely that Toriyama could just make something after the End of Z, ignoring the previously mentioned age problems.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:57 pm

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Doctor. wrote:If it's after EoZ, can we expect Kai to have an exclusive ending?
Kai's newest (and probably last) ending sequence is almost entirely focused on the Z epilogue though, so it doesn't seem like it's heading to a different ending.
I didn't know that, I just looked it up and the way Uub is more teased than shown gets me hopeful.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by G1GACANN0N » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:59 pm

Now they just need to redo all of Kikuchi's music with a modern orchestra!

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Post by DBZ_Lee » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:01 pm

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DBZ_Lee wrote:But wouldn't Goku be like 47? and Vegeta 52? - according to approximate dates given in the official timeline. I can't see it taking place that late, the press release states it being after the defeat of Majin Buu.
Toriyama Sensei stated he chose the 10 year time gap for BoG because everyone was at the height of their powers, so I can't see him going that far ahead.
Yes (well, Goku was dead too), but Saiyans stay in their prime until the rapid aging process sets in. Physically, they're basically still in their 20s. Everyone else though, like Kuririn... eh.
To be honest, I forgot about the Saiyans' slow aging process. I hope it's set after "F", but we'll just have to wait and see.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:03 pm

I expect it to take place after the end of the manga/Z/Kai. It will air after Kai's final episode, so it would make sense for it to be its continuation.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:06 pm

G1GACANN0N wrote:Now they just need to redo all of Kikuchi's music with a modern orchestra!
This! This so much!!!
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Post by Scott » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:07 pm

DBZ_Lee wrote:
bubibartra wrote:I think that Boo saga ends with Oob as good heir of Kid boo,

therefore, Dragon ball S will continue from there.
But wouldn't Goku be like 47? and Vegeta 52? - according to approximate dates given in the official timeline. I can't see it taking place that late, the press release states it being after the defeat of Majin Buu.
Toriyama Sensei stated he chose the 10 year time gap for BoG because everyone was at the height of their powers, so I can't see him going that far ahead.
I don't think we should take age all too seriously in the Dragon Ball world, at least when it comes to the fighters. Surely with all of the super human powers they wouldn't age like normal humans. Middle age could be something like 60 years old for the fighters. Plus, Earth in Dragon Ball isn't really like the Earth in real life. We have talking bears in the Dragonball world :D . When it comes to the age of Dragon Ball characters, i don't think it really matters.

Also, Goku is actually only 40 because he was dead for 7 years :D
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Post by GotenZ1 » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:08 pm

G1GACANN0N wrote:Now they just need to redo all of Kikuchi's music with a modern orchestra!
A thousand times this! I'm excited for this show, but I really don't want to watch a new DB show WITHOUT Kikuchi's score. I hope whoever does it at least tries to incorporate some of the music style that he gave DB. It would go a long way in helping make this a "continuation".
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:10 pm

Thirding Kikuchi music. :3

Yeah, Gokû's body would still be in his 30's somewhere, even tho he's technically in his forties.

I used to have the ages memorized.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:16 pm

G1GACANN0N wrote:Now they just need to redo all of Kikuchi's music with a modern orchestra!
Oh man, that would be amazing. I'd be so behind this. :P

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:19 pm

*Went to go look at old guidebook to save on math.*

Gokû's chronologically 37 at the end of the Buu arc, so his body's 30.

The year Fukkatsu no F takes place in is 6 months after BOG? I feel like I read that in the F thread, (if I'm wrong, sorry about that).
BOG's 2 years after Buu (I think?).

So if all that's true, he's roughly what, 39/32 or 40/33? (If this new series takes place directly after F. Heh. AF.)

That's actually kind of cool in a way how Toriyama lets everyone age; so many shounen protagonists are shounen themselves.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Sigh-Ya-Jin » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:20 pm

Chuquita wrote:Thirding Kikuchi music. :3

Yeah, Gokû's body would still be in his 30's somewhere, even tho he's technically in his forties.

I used to have the ages memorized.
I believe mid 20's
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:22 pm

Chuquita wrote:*Went to go look at old guidebook to save on math.*

Gokû's chronologically 37 at the end of the Buu arc, so his body's 30.

The year Fukkatsu no F takes place in is 6 months after BOG? I feel like I read that in the F thread, (if I'm wrong, sorry about that).
BOG's 2 years after Buu (I think?).

So if all that's true, he's roughly what, 39/32 or 40/33? (If this new series takes place directly after F. Heh. AF.)

That's actually kind of cool in a way how Toriyama lets everyone age; so many shounen protagonists are shounen themselves.
Holy shit, that is incredible, probably a complete coincidence, but hilariously amazing none the less.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:27 pm

Chuquita wrote:*Went to go look at old guidebook to save on math.*

Gokû's chronologically 37 at the end of the Buu arc, so his body's 30.

The year Fukkatsu no F takes place in is 6 months after BOG? I feel like I read that in the F thread, (if I'm wrong, sorry about that).
BOG's 2 years after Buu (I think?).

So if all that's true, he's roughly what, 39/32 or 40/33? (If this new series takes place directly after F. Heh. AF.)
F is in AGE 779 and Goku is (as of now still) born in 737. So he would be 42 technically, but "physically" 35 because of his 7 year death between Cell and Buu. Though, with the Saiyan aging mechanics, both he and Vegeta are still basically in their 20s because they don't age until the rapid deterioration process sets in. Whenever that is. (60-70 according to DBO, but that may not be relevant anymore.)
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Scott » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:29 pm

Chuquita wrote:*Went to go look at old guidebook to save on math.*

Gokû's chronologically 37 at the end of the Buu arc, so his body's 30.

The year Fukkatsu no F takes place in is 6 months after BOG? I feel like I read that in the F thread, (if I'm wrong, sorry about that).
BOG's 2 years after Buu (I think?).

So if all that's true, he's roughly what, 39/32 or 40/33? (If this new series takes place directly after F. Heh. AF.)

That's actually kind of cool in a way how Toriyama lets everyone age; so many shounen protagonists are shounen themselves.
How long did it take him to get back to Earth after the fight on Namek ?

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Post by Chuquita » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:31 pm

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Chuquita wrote:*Went to go look at old guidebook to save on math.*

Gokû's chronologically 37 at the end of the Buu arc, so his body's 30.

The year Fukkatsu no F takes place in is 6 months after BOG? I feel like I read that in the F thread, (if I'm wrong, sorry about that).
BOG's 2 years after Buu (I think?).

So if all that's true, he's roughly what, 39/32 or 40/33? (If this new series takes place directly after F. Heh. AF.)
F is in AGE 779 and Goku is (as of now still) born in 737. So he would be 42 technically, but "physically" 35 because of his 7 year death between Cell and Buu. Though, with the Saiyan aging mechanics, both he and Vegeta are still basically in their 20s because they don't age until the rapid deterioration process sets in. Whenever that is. (60-70 according to DBO, but that may not be relevant anymore.)
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I'm genuinely curious if they're keeping DBO's rapid-deterioration thing or not.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:36 pm

Scott wrote:How long did it take him to get back to Earth after the fight on Namek ?
The fight with Freeza was on December 25th, AGE 762 and the fight with Mecha Freeza was in August of 764. So almost 2 years.
Chuquita wrote:Many thanks!

I'm genuinely curious if they're keeping DBO's rapid-deterioration thing or not.
You're welcome. The rapid aging thing isn't just from DBO though, but it is the only thing that gives us an age estimation of when it might kick in.
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