"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:26 pm

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Are you new to fandom or something? We're talking about the guy who didn't know the difference between SSJ2 and SSJ3... it's absolutely believable that he would mistake his GT drawings (probably some of the last DB he did of that era) for the EOZ designs. In fact, it probably really is true. Why doesn't the staff remind him? Probably for a similar reason they don't call out any of the other inconsistent things he's done, like Gohan going SSJ when he should be "mystic" in BOG (which did get changed but not until fans started complaining very vocally). I think they don't question it when they get the material from him, they just accept it entirely because it's coming from the big man himself.
That doesn't make any sense. There's no problem in people correct you, if you're wrong. Like they did with A18 purple hair, Mystic Gohan, and SSJ2/SSJ3 in BOG
If he doesn't remember, that's what the staff and fans are for. If this is the reason, we don't get pos-EOZ material, the staff just have to show him how the characters look like in EOZ.
Its not like he is perfect and I doubt he will get upset, if we help him with details.

In his BOG interviews, he sounded like a humble guy to me. He cleary admitted the super saiyan god and God of Desctruction were there from the start and weren't his idea.
I don't know what idea you have from Toriyama but seems to be a different one of mine. If there's was a way to contact him/the staff (facebook, twitter, etc...) i would respectfully warning them about this details.

If he thought Goku/Vegeta stayed dead in Buu arc, would the staff not telling him anything, when he was writting BOG script?! Of course, they would.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ZeroTheSuperSaiyan » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:36 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
bleed0range wrote:
Are you new to fandom or something? We're talking about the guy who didn't know the difference between SSJ2 and SSJ3... it's absolutely believable that he would mistake his GT drawings (probably some of the last DB he did of that era) for the EOZ designs. In fact, it probably really is true. Why doesn't the staff remind him? Probably for a similar reason they don't call out any of the other inconsistent things he's done, like Gohan going SSJ when he should be "mystic" in BOG (which did get changed but not until fans started complaining very vocally). I think they don't question it when they get the material from him, they just accept it entirely because it's coming from the big man himself.
That doesn't make any sense. There's no problem in people correct you, if you're wrong. Like they did with A18 purple hair, Mystic Gohan, and SSJ2/SSJ3 in BOG
If he doesn't remember, that's what the staff and fans are for. If this is the reason, we don't get pos-EOZ material, the staff just have to show him how the characters look like in EOZ.
Its not like he is perfect and I doubt he will get upset, if we help him with details.

In his BOG interviews, he sounded like a humble guy to me. He cleary admitted the super saiyan god and God of Desctruction were there from the start and weren't his idea.
I don't know what idea you have from Toriyama but seems to be a different one of mine. If there's was a way to contact him/the staff (facebook, twitter, etc...) i would respectfully warning them about this details.

If he thought Goku/Vegeta stayed dead in Buu arc, would the staff not telling him anything, when he was writting BOG script?! Of course, they would.
I don't think we have to worry after all he could just check his own manga and art work if he's not sure
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Mystic Tien » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:37 pm

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Mystic Tenshinhan wrote:Raditz passed them coordinaties and all information before he died. That's why they knew where Earth was located. Raditz had a scouter. Vegeta and Nappa had a scouter. Bardock had a scouter. But Gine didn't have a scouter, how she may possibly learn where Earth is now with Bardock being dead and without a scouter?

Tarble had a scouter. As well as a ship. Gine doesn't have.

That's, plus again, she most likely thinks that Goku destroyed the Earth, and that he isn't there anymore, so there is no need to fly there anyway.
No, it is explicitly said Vegeta and Nappa only knew/heard what happened in Earth, we don't see Raditz telling them the coordinaties, actually we don't see any contact among them before he died.

Bardock's scouter is nowhere to be seen in Dragon Ball Minus and Chapter 307. And how do you know Gine does not have one? And even if that is the case, why Gine couldn't steal one?

You are claiming things with no foundation, sorry. The same way I can find reasons for this situation, you can find problems, so it's pointless to keep colliding these ideas without any further information.
They did. But Raditz should have given them coordinates, if not when he approached the Earth, fought Goku or before him dying, then before he went to Earth. He didn't go there just to reunite with his brother, he went there to recruit him, and the whole thing was broadcasted to Vegeta and Nappa, so they should have had a pretty good idea where he went. Not only that, but they had a ship, given to them by Frieza's men. It is pretty possible, that you don't need to put needed coordinates, rather than only choose the planet, and as they knew from Raditz that Goku was on Earth, they could pretty easily get there.

All shown saiyans had a scouter. Raditz (low-class warrior) had it, Nappa had it, Vegeta had it, even the kid (!) Raditz in DBM had it, and the guy which was with Bardock in DBM had it, and took it off right before landing on Planet Vegeta, because Bardock told him to do so, to prevent Frieza from hearing their conversation. Bardock most likely did the same, but earlier.

By the way Gine asked Bardock why they couldn't go with Goku, and he answered that they would find them with scouters. So it is possible to use scouters for searching people who don't even have scouters, either by finding their pods or power levels. They most likely contained coordinates as well then. Don't know about the distance though.

Gine didn't have one, because she was specifically said to not be a combatant, when Bardock arrived, she didn't wear it without anyone telling her not to do it, and most importantly, even if she had one, her planet was destroyed by Frieza, so she had no way to retrieve one from somewhere, and if she did, Frieza would have pretty easily learned/heard where she was, so it makes no sense for her deliberately taking scouter from somewhere even if she could.

I just make the logical conclusions. Of course there are no definite statements from manga. And I don't even believe that she is alive. All I say is that even if she was alive, it wouldn't have been any problem that she didn't visit the Earth.

Pretty much the only possibility for Gine to go to Earth is if she fled in one of saiyan's pods. But if she did it, then as DBM suggest, Frieza would have most likely learned about it one way or another, so it is very not likely. So even if she survived (which is already highly unlikely), it is even more unlikely for her to flee in saiyan's pod. And it is the only way for her (without scouter) to learn where Goku is and get there. Her knowing that Goku is on some mysterious planet called Earth won't help her to get there without proper coordinates. And I highly doubt that even if she got to hear/see those coordinates at all, that she memorized them.

This, and just as I earlier said, Goku was supposed to destroy this planet anyway, so Gine didn't have a single way to learn where Goku really was without a scouter.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:46 pm

I still hope the show takes place after Uub. I mean it airs after the final episode of Kai and it would make sense to have the next DB show air right after that last episode or otherwise it might confuse TV viewers who are watching the show for the first time. Not to mention Bluma said that she hasn't seen Goku in five years and Goku fights Uub five years after Goku defeats Freeza in ROF. I think the next fives after Freeza is Goku and Vegeta training to get stronger with their new god powers.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:55 pm

Exactly. There's not point in getting stuck in this 10 years gap anymore.
A sequel takes place after the prequel last episode. Not before it.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:58 pm

Mustache Vegeta Hype?
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

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Post by bubibartra » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:04 pm

If gohan is no longer a main character is simply because Toriyama failed to evolve as an adult, however Vegeta developed perfectly. The Boo saga buried Gohan as main to secondary and that will not change. Goten is more likely for evolving better, has not a extreme character and is easier to develop in many directions. I liked the kid Gohan but ended its importance. I like infinitely Ten Shin Han that Krillin, began to see Dragon Bal in 1990, but have had much Krillin, and practically nothing Ten Shin Han in Dragon Ball z. The things are not going to please all

I love Piccolo and I would like to see on the main line. Gok / vegeta / Picolo would be perfect but it will not be. I want Goku / Vegeta and development for others, especially Goten and Trunks but will begin to be a Vegeta / Goku show, that then may be changing in the future, but initially it will be so for the same reason that Dragon Ball Z started be a show of Goku, the series has to sell, and now Goku and Vegeta are very popular, then eventually it will give prominence to the other ok, but is reset after 18 years, they will not give prominence to a character already failed as main before or children who are not known yet
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Mystic Tien » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:05 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
bleed0range wrote:Now I am kind of concerned that Toriyama is stuck between EOZ and buu because he thinks his GT designs are how the characters looked at EOZ. Which means if he realized that, he might be willing to continue from after uub shows up at EOZ.
Oh, God. I really, really, really hope that is not the case. But given how Toriyama's memory in regards to Dragon Ball can be very hit-and-miss, there is a chance this could be the case. I pray it's not though.
I feel like I made some great discovery today :D
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.

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Post by Chuquita » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:12 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Mustache Vegeta Hype?
Running gag: Vegeta has different facial hair each episode. Half a season in, gets angry that Gokû never notices or comments on it.
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Post by Retan » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:17 pm

Chuquita wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:Mustache Vegeta Hype?
Running gag: Vegeta has different facial hair each episode. Half a season in, gets angry that Gokû never notices or comments on it.

LoL Just admit it Chuquita you want Goku and Vegeta to be lovers.

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Post by Sora Saiyan » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:20 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Mustache Vegeta Hype?
I can't find where this started on this thread but I'm reading Toriyama might've confused character designs with GT? Is there a credible source or is it just speculation?

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Post by Mystic Tien » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:22 pm

Sora Saiyan wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:Mustache Vegeta Hype?
I can't find where this started on this thread but I'm reading Toriyama might've confused character designs with GT? Is there a credible source or is it just speculation?
Right here - http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... 98#p921198

I wasn't the first to point it out, I guess, though.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.

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Post by jcogginsa » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:23 pm

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Post by Dyno » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:24 pm

Sora Saiyan wrote:I can't find where this started on this thread but I'm reading Toriyama might've confused character designs with GT? Is there a credible source or is it just speculation?
Here.

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Post by Mewzard » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:25 pm

Honestly, I think he does mean the end of Z designs. I get the feeling he made them ten years older and went with designs he didn't like so when he did try and quit he wouldn't be as tempted to come back. 20 years later, he finds himself regretting that decision as he now wants to come back.

But he could have also done the same to the GT designs as well.
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Post by Mystic Tien » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:26 pm

Nah, I was - http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... 06#p920406 :o

But he was the first to post a picture. And to be honest, I doubt, that I saw it before - http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... 11#p921111
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.

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Post by Sora Saiyan » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:38 pm

Dyno wrote:
Sora Saiyan wrote:I can't find where this started on this thread but I'm reading Toriyama might've confused character designs with GT? Is there a credible source or is it just speculation?
Here.
Thanks guys. :) I actually read this when it first came around with BoG, but I got lost on this thread and didn't realise what people were talking about. Thanks again :)

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:39 pm

Some portuguese journals mentioning Dragon Ball Super:
Correio da Manha: http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/tv_media/deta ... julho.html
Sol: http://www.sol.pt/noticia/388837
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:05 pm

April is pretty much done and dusted. So 2 months. Has this sunk in with anyone yet? I am still in shock lol

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Post by ffxiimaniac » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:12 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:April is pretty much done and dusted. So 2 months. Has this sunk in with anyone yet? I am still in shock lol
Have fun :D Us dub watchers will shut ourselves in a corner until Funimation announces something. 61 days till July!

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