Scott wrote:Even though i want Jaco to be included in Dragon Ball Super, i think there needs to be more of a background story on him to become believable. If he can warn Bulma of Freeza in RoF then why hasn't he or any other of the Galactic Patrolmen ever warned Bulma of other threats ?
Which other threats? He warned her of Freeza because probably most planets in the galaxy learned about his resurrection. He's the galactic overlord. His resurrection is a big deal. News of it probably spread around the galaxy during the infamous 4 month period. But which other threats? Raditz, Vegeta and Nappa? They were on a secret mission, Freeza himself didn't know about it, let alone Jaco. The Androids and Cell? These originated on Earth. Buu? Kaioshin took care of that.
Well, he didn't warn Bulma of Freeza approaching Earth in his Mecha form, so why would he now choose to warn her in RoF ? Namek was also never warned about the threat of Frieza by the Galactic Patrol. Nothing was ever done about Trunks time travelling either, and that is supposed to be forbidden. There is a possibility that they knew nothing of Trunks time travelling though. But if it was forbidden, they would surely be looking to see if people are actually time travelling.
And even if Raditz was on a secret mission, i don't see why that would matter. Goku was secretly sent to Earth and the Galactic Patrol still knew about that.
VegettoEX wrote:
Additionally, we know the Galactic Patrol aren't really a match for even the Saiyans, so it's not like they'd stick their neck out for much more. Considering they were ready to wipe out all life on Earth themselves, it's not like they'd really care all that much about these other villains coming to do so.
They are no match for Frieza either but Jaco still warned Earth about him.
dbzfan7 wrote:So how much chance is there for more green tint in the new anime?
0%. They found out that the guys that edited Buu Kai arc had broken monitors all along and already bought new ones.
I know that's meant to be a joke, why do I have this niggling feeling in the back of the head that may be true?
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
UpFromTheSkies wrote:
What are you trying to show here? That Chopper aged? If so, that's just one of his transformations, his base form looks the same as it always did.
Yeah, this is not simply his transformation, this is his real form. The way he was born, the chibi form which he constantly uses is not his real form, it is the same as Lucci's half leopard/half human form.
Marco Polo wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
I just started watching the Buu episodes of Kai recently and I noticed the green too, but I thought it was a problem with the video capture and not the source. Hopefully this doesn't carry over to Super.
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UpFromTheSkies wrote:
What are you trying to show here? That Chopper aged? If so, that's just one of his transformations, his base form looks the same as it always did.
the reindeer form is his base form. He is a reindeer who ate a magic fruit that let him become human
Yeah, this. Just like Lucci is a human, so his half-human/half-leopard form is not his real or main one.
Marco Polo wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
UpFromTheSkies wrote:
What are you trying to show here? That Chopper aged? If so, that's just one of his transformations, his base form looks the same as it always did.
Yeah, this is not simply his transformation, this is his real form. The way he was born, the chibi form which he constantly uses is not his real form, it is the same as Lucci's half leopard/half human form.
None of his forms look like they've aged to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Lord Beerus wrote:
I know that's meant to be a joke, why do I have this niggling feeling in the back of the head that may be true?
Because the chances are high. As far I know green tint doesn't improve quality.
There's no logic reason to do that.
Other than maybe Toei was just super cheap and lazy with the reproduction of an anime. Which is something they are almost legendary for.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
We're getting way off topic here, my original point was simply that there are other series in which the characters never age, maybe a better example would be DC or Marvel comics, and so it wouldn't be unusual if they had Dragon Ball Super go on forever with the cast never aging.
Not exactly a great comparison, but here Chopper is much shorter than Robin -
Spoiler:
And here he is almost as tall as Usopp
I am too lazy to find the proper scans. But he was shorter before the time-skip, now he is a giant, even Usopp noticed it and pointed out right on the scan I posted.
And yeah, I agree that we are off-topic, I got your point, I just wanted to point out that Chopper grew up during the time-skip.
Marco Polo wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
Scott wrote:Even though i want Jaco to be included in Dragon Ball Super, i think there needs to be more of a background story on him to become believable. If he can warn Bulma of Freeza in RoF then why hasn't he or any other of the Galactic Patrolmen ever warned Bulma of other threats ?
Which other threats? He warned her of Freeza because probably most planets in the galaxy learned about his resurrection. He's the galactic overlord. His resurrection is a big deal. News of it probably spread around the galaxy during the infamous 4 month period. But which other threats? Raditz, Vegeta and Nappa? They were on a secret mission, Freeza himself didn't know about it, let alone Jaco. The Androids and Cell? These originated on Earth. Buu? Kaioshin took care of that.
Well, he didn't warn Bulma of Freeza approaching Earth in his Mecha form, so why would he now choose to warn her in RoF ? Namek was also never warned about the threat of Freeza by the Galactic Patrol. Nothing was ever done about Trunks time travelling either, and that is supposed to be forbidden. There is a possibility that they knew nothing of Trunks time travelling though. But if it was forbidden, they would surely be looking to see if people are actually time travelling.
And even if Raditz was on a secret mission, i don't see why that would matter. Goku was secretly sent to Earth and the Galactic Patrol still knew about that.
There can be tons of different reasons why he didn't warn Bulma of Mecha Freeza that one time. Maybe he was afraid of there being both Freeza AND King Cold? Maybe he knew Goku was on his way and thought he didn't need to bother? Maybe he was too afraid this time, but for Resurrection of 'F' he wasn't that afraid anymore because he knew they already defeated Freeza twice? Maybe he was busy elsewhere? Maybe he was just asleep?
My personal theory is Mecha Freeza didn't tell anyone he got his ass handed to him by Goku and he went to Earth right after his recovery, so neither Jaco nor other people in the galaxy got to know about his trip to Earth, whereas in Resurrection of 'F' Freeza made sure everyone knew he was back and everyone had 4 months to know about it.
As for Namek, why would the Patrol warn them when they're afraid of Freeza? The only reason Jaco warns Bulma is because Bulma is a personal friend. Pretty sure he doesn't care about those green alien strangers.
Scott wrote:
Well, he didn't warn Bulma of Freeza approaching Earth in his Mecha form, so why would he now choose to warn her in RoF ? Namek was also never warned about the threat of Freeza by the Galactic Patrol. Nothing was ever done about Trunks time travelling either, and that is supposed to be forbidden. There is a possibility that they knew nothing of Trunks time travelling though. But if it was forbidden, they would surely be looking to see if people are actually time travelling.
And even if Raditz was on a secret mission, i don't see why that would matter. Goku was secretly sent to Earth and the Galactic Patrol still knew about that.
There can be tons of different reasons why he didn't warn Bulma of Mecha Freeza that one time. Maybe he was afraid of there being both Freeza AND King Cold? Maybe he knew Goku was on his way and thought he didn't need to bother? Maybe he was too afraid this time, but for Resurrection of 'F' he wasn't that afraid anymore because he knew they already defeated Freeza twice? Maybe he was busy elsewhere? Maybe he was just asleep?
My personal theory is Mecha Freeza didn't tell anyone he got his ass handed to him by Goku and he went to Earth right after his recovery, so neither Jaco nor other people in the galaxy got to know about his trip to Earth, whereas in Resurrection of 'F' Freeza made sure everyone knew he was back and everyone had 4 months to know about it.
As for Namek, why would the Patrol warn them when they're afraid of Freeza? The only reason Jaco warns Bulma is because Bulma is a personal friend. Pretty sure he doesn't care about those green alien strangers.
Ok, fair enough, i'll give you that one.
The Galactic Patrol are pretty weak really, for space police they can't really do much to maintain control. I think it would be pretty cool if Akira Toriyama had a few of the fighters on Earth become part of the Galactic Patrol team.
Scott wrote:
The Galactic Patrol are pretty weak really, for space police they can't really do much to maintain control. I think it would be pretty cool if Akira Toriyama had a few of the fighters on Earth become part of the Galactic Patrol team.
Galactic Patrolman Mr. Satan.
This must become a thing.
"Actually I didn’t know what Bulma’s real hair color was" --Toriyama
Scott wrote:
The Galactic Patrol are pretty weak really, for space police they can't really do much to maintain control. I think it would be pretty cool if Akira Toriyama had a few of the fighters on Earth become part of the Galactic Patrol team.
Galactic Patrolman Mr. Satan.
This must become a thing.
That would be really awesome. He'd be like Star Lord from Guardians Of The Galaxy.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Scott wrote:
The Galactic Patrol are pretty weak really, for space police they can't really do much to maintain control. I think it would be pretty cool if Akira Toriyama had a few of the fighters on Earth become part of the Galactic Patrol team.
Galactic Patrolman Mr. Satan.
This must become a thing.
That would be really awesome. He'd be like Star Lord from Guardians Of The Galaxy.
I think he'd be more like Space Dandy then Star Lord. Which is equally if not more cool!
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Scott wrote:
The Galactic Patrol are pretty weak really, for space police they can't really do much to maintain control. I think it would be pretty cool if Akira Toriyama had a few of the fighters on Earth become part of the Galactic Patrol team.
Krillin and Jaco buddy cop film incoming.
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Scott wrote:
The Galactic Patrol are pretty weak really, for space police they can't really do much to maintain control. I think it would be pretty cool if Akira Toriyama had a few of the fighters on Earth become part of the Galactic Patrol team.
Krillin and Jaco buddy cop film incoming.
That would be incredible.
"Actually I didn’t know what Bulma’s real hair color was" --Toriyama
