"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Chuquita]

Read the Crunchy and ANN articles about Digimon Tri. My current hypothesis about that is there were internal problems and that probably lead to them switching from a series to special movie things. I imagine with it out of the way as it were that it did open up resources for Super.

[Lord Beerus]

Read the Crunchy and ANN articles about Digimon Tri. My current hypothesis about that is there were internal problems and that probably lead to them switching from a series to special movie things. I imagine with it out of the way as it were that it did open up resources for Super.

Honestly, I'm more disappointed by the fact that Digimon Tri is gonna be a series of films as opposed to a TV series. That means it's gonna take years before we get to the conclusion of the story. The change in VA's though, was the dealbreaker for me. Not hyped for Digimon Tri at all now. What a shame. Let's hope Dragon Ball Super doesn't go through this.

[FortuneSSJ]

I'm not disappointed about Digimon Tri not being an anime series, since there's a high chance of the reason for that to be Dragon Ball Super.

-About the Dragon Ballrecast-
Sooner or later will happen. The voice actors are getting really old and Dragon Ball will continue forever. Even Nozawa will be changed in the future. Let's just hope its later.
Its sad but that's how life is. I'm already happy for being able to enjoy the series on their prime.

Since Digimon Adventure tri. is now a six episode theatrical release my new crack theory is that the 'certain work' that Shida Naotoshi was working on last month was Dragon Ball Super. My guess is that he will be doing key animation for one of the first three episodes and/or a storyboard.

Let's just hope it isn't the opening, since he worked on the last One Piece opening. It would be a waste.
The only problem i have with his style are the ki blast. The rest is perfect.

[shinmaru]

That's a surprise. I thought the digimon one was a series, or under that impression anyway. If Super is what Shida's working on that'd be great!

It's been upgraded, either to avoid production collapse or to allow for Dragon Ball Super to exist.

New Dragon Ball does have the potential to bring in more money for them worldwide than a new Digimon series, imo. That new art style they're using for the Digimon project wouldn't help internationally either, I think, because when you change the art style that much for a nostalgia project, part of the nostalgia itself is lost.

Just like Transformers fate. I'm still hoping they reboot G1 with a better story same art style only better or a Transformers title that has something to do with G1 series like Beast Wars, but that will likely never happen. I don't understand why change something that did very well in 80s especially the art style.

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[JamesOwnz]

I didn't think of that.. TOEI switching voice actors?

Though it seems like a long shot though they just had everyone back for the new movies..

This is pretty much their last hurrah imo... eventually they will be replaced but I'm also expecting this to be the last be Dragon Ball thing for a long time...could be another 20 years before we see the whole new cast.

[Blade]

Regarding Tri: What a mess. It only goes to show how Toei are buckling under the pressure of spreading themselves so thin.

Will a similar fate befall 'Super'? Not on this level. Crappy production values are probable, but maintaining the (more or less) original cast and delivering an actual series are paramount. Toei needs Dragonball Super. It's coming right now because they need it. I doubt it will be a masterpiece by any means, but they literally can't afford to fuck up its delivery.

[Doctor.]

Toei really seems to be trying to cash in on nostalgia lately, Super, Tri, Crystal and the new Saint Seiyas. Are they doing bad financially?

[Blade]

Toei really seems to be trying to cash in on nostalgia lately, Super, Tri, Crystal and the new Saint Seiyas. Are they doing bad financially?

They're in healthy profit. They're just not making as much as they were in the recent past, like the rest of the industry. There's a lot of belt-tightening which is, frankly, motivated by corperate greed.

[Lord Beerus]

Toei really seems to be trying to cash in on nostalgia lately, Super, Tri, Crystal and the new Saint Seiyas. Are they doing bad financially?

They're in healthy profit. They're just not making as much as they were in the recent past, like the rest of the industry. There's a lot of belt-tightening which is, frankly, motivated by corperate greed.

But hasn't One Piece been like a billion dollar franchise for them for the last few years? And Pretty Cure, Super Sentai and Kamen Rider make Toei trucks loads of money in terms of merchandise sales. So yeah, Toei are just cheap and greedy as hell. Like every other major corporate company.

[Chuquita]

Re: Tri

I was more a Pokémon fan back then. I watched some Digimon because it was on and this was before fast internet when I'd actually flip channels on tv looking to watch stuff, but I don't know much about it. I do know it had what many fans thought was a strange ending shipping wise, and I can see easily why they'd be upset that Tri won't be a series after all. If Tri was a sacrifice to get Super made, I hope it wasn't done in vain.

[jcogginsa]

Tri would probably benefit from the change in format if i'm being honest

[Retan]

So I wonder when will get our first bit of info on Super, as I've already seen another anime expected to premier July 5th get a trailer, but maybe because it's Dragonball they don't feel they need to start selling it yet?

[DBZ_Lee]

Interesting with regards to what has ended up happening with Digimon Tri. I thought it was strange when it got delayed - as the rumour was that it was to replace Kai's 9am slot. Then it got delayed until Summer, and now it's ended up being a 6-part film series.
It would seem that "Super", may have been the reason behind this. I'd be very interested to hear when the decision was made to actually go forward with Super, as Digimon was announced back in August last year, and was due to debut this Spring (so assuming that at this point, Toei were all in to have this as Kai's replacement) though the decision to push it back to Summer, was more than likely made when they decided to stop cutting Kai, so it would remain on TV while "F" had it's theatrical run.

Though I suppose now it could be said that the decision to stop cutting Kai was made a lot sooner, and perhaps they wanted it to air until Summer to give them an opportunity to start working on "Super", so that it would be ready to continue on from Kai early July.
The more I think about it, the more questions continue to emerge.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

So I wonder when will get our first bit of info on Super, as I've already seen another anime expected to premier July 5th get a trailer, but maybe because it's Dragonball they don't feel they need to start selling it yet?

Nothing has been promised to contain Super information yet as far as I know, but any time now is possible? There's supposed to be a franchise announcement on the 9th, and V-Jump releases on the 21st. I imagine we'll at least have a logo and maybe some splash art of the heroes before the month ends? Just a guess though, so don't hold me to that.

[TripleRach]

But hasn't One Piece been like a billion dollar franchise for them for the last few years? And Pretty Cure, Super Sentai and Kamen Rider make Toei trucks loads of money in terms of merchandise sales. So yeah, Toei are just cheap and greedy as hell. Like every other major corporate company.

Toei isn't the sole owner of any of those franchises. And the companies who produce the merchandise (such as Bandai) take in a large share of the profits too. Japanese taxes are also fairly high.

I'm sure there is some corporate greed to it. But I doubt Toei executives are busy having elaborate beach parties while their TV and movies are produced for peanuts.

So I wonder when will get our first bit of info on Super, as I've already seen another anime expected to premier July 5th get a trailer, but maybe because it's Dragonball they don't feel they need to start selling it yet?

It's possible this was all a recent decision and they don't have anything to show yet. But they also likely have a specific marketing agenda as to when and where they want to reveal new information.

[Lord Beerus]

But hasn't One Piece been like a billion dollar franchise for them for the last few years? And Pretty Cure, Super Sentai and Kamen Rider make Toei trucks loads of money in terms of merchandise sales. So yeah, Toei are just cheap and greedy as hell. Like every other major corporate company.

Toei isn't the sole owner of any of those franchises. And the companies who produce the merchandise (such as Bandai) take in a large share of the profits too. Japanese taxes are also fairly high.

I'm sure there is some corporate greed to it. But I doubt Toei executives are busy having elaborate beach parties while their TV and movies are produced for peanuts.

Yeah, I totally forgot that the tax rate in Japan is absurdly high. And I forgot to take into account that other companies who produce the merchandise also profit from those sales too. I guess I'll give Toei the benefit of the doubt. But still, it shouldn't mean that Dragon Ball Super should get subpar treatment. Toei still make a lot of money.

[garnetjester]

Aw man, I loved Digimon first season so much! What a shame. But if Digimon died so that DBSuper can live I think I can deal with it. CMIIW but doesn't the press release say something about the voice actors?

[Chuquita]

I just checked for comparison: Go!Pri's first image leaks were 8 weeks before it premiered. If I count back 8 weeks from July 5th, that's, actually that's this weekend. If Toei is consistent with that, we may get stuff this weekend.

[soulnova]

-About the Dragon Ballrecast-
Sooner or later will happen. The voice actors are getting really old and Dragon Ball will continue forever. Even Nozawa will be changed in the future. Let's just hope its later.
Its sad but that's how life is. I'm already happy for being able to enjoy the series on their prime.

I don't know if Nozawa would ever be replaced if she dies. She *IS* Goku as far is concerned for most people in Japan. I fear they would boycott the whole thing if someone else takes over Goku's voice even after her death.


Hey, guys, anyone knows how the Japanese fans are taking this? Has there been any talks about what they expect/hope/fear for this new series?? I would love to know their perspective...

[UpFromTheSkies]

Judging from Masako Nozawa's comments in the press release, I don't think she has plans to retire any time soon.